Why there is no Sarutobi like Hiruzen Sarutobi who can beat Hashirama and Madara?

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Why there is no Sarutobi like Hiruzen Sarutobi who can kick Hashirama and Madara's ass?
 

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hiruzen is weak no one called him a god that is a huge misconception and if you dont agree post the manga where they did
 

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give konohamaru a few years to brew, he'll get there eventually.
 

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This is the same old guy who was struggling with Orochimaru to say that he'll beat Madara is beyond insane...the 3rd was clearly over-rated in my opinion, still powerful but way over rated...He wasn't even the strongest in the village I don't see how he would have defeated Itachi one on one
 

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This is the same old guy who was struggling with Orochimaru to say that he'll beat Madara is beyond insane...the 3rd was clearly over-rated in my opinion, still powerful but way over rated...He wasn't even the strongest in the village I don't see how he would have defeated Itachi one on one

Hiruzen will put an exploding tag to Itachi's face, then kaboom.
 

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Hiruzen will put an exploding tag to Itachi's face, then kaboom.

Are you kidding me itachi has the Sharingan Hiruzen old ass wouldn't get no where near itachi's face and besides Itachi was a defensive fighter who would counter all those weak ass leaf Jutsu's...how will the third get past Tsukyomi, amatarasu and susanoo he has no counter for those techniques sorry but your wrong my friend
 

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Are you kidding me itachi has the Sharingan Hiruzen old ass wouldn't get no where near itachi's face and besides Itachi was a defensive fighter who would counter all those weak ass leaf Jutsu's...how will the third get past Tsukyomi, amatarasu and susanoo he has no counter for those techniques sorry but your wrong my friend

LOL, he didn't struggle with Orochimaru, but with Hashirama and Tobirama, he was outnumbered. He was tired and his chakra was low at that time that's why he failed to finish Orochimaru.

Hiruzen knew how to fight a sharingan user, if Might Guy knew it, so is Hiruzen. As for Susanno, LOL, Enma-Monkey King easily push the Nine Tails away from the Village, that power alone is enough to crush Itachi's Susanoo straight to Itachi's skull.

Beating Hashirama is enough evidence that Hiruzen will beat Itachi one on one.
 

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hiruzen is weak no one called him a god that is a huge misconception and if you dont agree post the manga where they did

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Page 265: "The Third is called the strongest, even among the past Hokage, and he is even admired as the 'God of Shinobi'." (「三代目は歴代火影の中でも最強と� ��われ、„忍の神”と謳われたことも 。」, "Sandaime wa rekidai Hokage no naka demo saikyō to iware, 'Shinobi no Kami' to utawareta koto mo")
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People severely underestimate power scaling of Naruto
all they see is the massive amount of destruction that is happening now and say "see the old characters never did anything like that!"

The clearest example of power scaling is this.
Elite anbu said it was "unbelieveable" he was able to cast such a high level water jutsu.. it's barely any water....



Now for Shippuden era

Vrs some lowly chunnin. (btw that was 30% of kisames strength)

The difference in amount of water is like night and day.

If hiruzen would be fighting in shippuden he would have massive scale abilities as well.
 
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LOL, he didn't struggle with Orochimaru, but with Hashirama and Tobirama, he was outnumbered. He was tired and his chakra was low at that time that's why he failed to finish Orochimaru.

Hiruzen knew how to fight a sharingan user, if Might Guy knew it, so is Hiruzen. As for Susanno, LOL, Enma-Monkey King easily push the Nine Tails away from the Village, that power alone is enough to crush Itachi's Susanoo straight to Itachi's skull.

Beating Hashirama is enough evidence that Hiruzen will beat Itachi one on one.

You said Might Gai the same guy who claimed to know how to counter the sharingan but got his ass kicked by Kakashi on numerous occasions and Kakashi is a watered Down uchiha...

As far as Enma the monkey king that slow **** that totsunka sword was just seal his sorry ass...

As for the third not struggling Orochimaru was playing with the 3rd the whole time he countered all those weak ass Jutsu's the 3rd was using...if Orochimaru really wanted to kill the 3rd all he had to do was use his Hydra technique
 

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You said Might Gai the same guy who claimed to know how to counter the sharingan but got his ass kicked by Kakashi on numerous occasions and Kakashi is a watered Down uchiha...

Show me, where?

Also, Hiruzen is dimension away from Gai.

As far as Enma the monkey king that slow **** that totsunka sword was just seal his sorry ass...

As for the third not struggling Orochimaru was playing with the 3rd the whole time he countered all those weak ass Jutsu's the 3rd was using...if Orochimaru really wanted to kill the 3rd all he had to do was use his Hydra technique

Show me, since when it was hinted that Itachi's Susanoo have enough physical strength and durability to push away the Nine Tails from the Village.

Even Tsunade and A could crush Itachi's Susanoo.
 

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Well, Azuma was on his way but ah......he sorta...eh...he kinnnnda got killed, so, you know.... he didn't make the cut.
 

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Show me, where?

Also, Hiruzen is dimension away from Gai.

As far as Kakashi kicking guys ass that's in the anime I don't remember what number it is off the top of my head I know it's before the start of the actual war...

Show me, since when it was hinted that Itachi's Susanoo have enough physical strength and durability to push away the Nine Tails from the Village.

Even Tsunade and A could crush Itachi's Susanoo.

Here's proof right here for do you think A and Tsunade attacks is stronger than Sasuke's Kirin I highly doubt it...itachi had just the Skeleton form of his Susanoo on and blocked one the strongest if not the strongest lighting technique which uses raw lighting by the way not chakra...And besides he also has yata's mirror for an extra line of defense
 
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