Ppl think Tobi > Madara? What?
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TheNarutoUzumaki
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Im gonna have to say Tobi cause heres why. There are many more mysteries to Tobi than has been let on at all. Aside from the fact hes partially intangable at will. What can't he do that madara can? And if we are going to go with the whole rinnegan thing lets first start off we are gonna assume until proven otherwise that Tobi is the one who gave Nagato the rinnegan in the first place. That being said im sure Tobi knows more and can use it better than Madara. The seven bijuu arent really free at all so whoever says that is lying cause they can ALWAYS be resealed. Plus they are at Tobis disposal. That being said, What jutsu have we seen our main villian use. Like 5 total and that man is WAY to knowledgeable to know only five alone. Hes got the rinnegan sharingan combo for a reason. My guess is not all mangekyo sharingan techniques can be used with a rinnegan. Biggest question that i cant put my money on is why are Uchiha Madaras and Tobis Mangekyo infinites the same? My only answer so far is that he is the brother of Madara. However there is no evidence to support it other than the sharingans having to be the same and that only brothers can use each others eyes. In which case Tobi is close to the same transformation that Madara went through during the five kage vs madara fight. In that one assumtion they all have the same abilities. Thats just a thought. But with 7 bijuu its Tobis advantage. And Madara cant go intangible. Tobis Win!
Prince Charles
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wow this is still being discussed ? tobi rapes madara, madara cant get passed his space time ninjutsu.
u guys dont realize that for tobi to even attack he must turn tangible and madara and his clones can use that opportunity to strike. and madara has powers like hashi's substitution jutsu to even trick him and strike him like he did to tsunade. Its a pretty even matchup tobi just doesnt simply rape
Prince Charles
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and you dont realize if tobi turns tangible and madaras clone or watever is about to attack him he can instantly turn intangible it was proven in the manga.
KakashiNinjaGaiden
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All of Hashirama's techniques? On that basis he himself he is pretty much untouchable! Plus you haven't seen all of Madara's techniques. We still don't know how much of the firsts techniques he can use or his own since hes only used Sasuno'o.
Not sure on this whole deal maybe it was after Naruto took the receptors out cannot remember but they seem to be reacting in the same sense as Edo tensei - Memories and emotions release them as seen when Tobi is attacked by one.
Anyway Madara may have knowledge of the firsts restraining technique, however it has indicated the Sharingan can suppress the tailed beast chakra as Sasuke did when confronting Naruto. Even controlling them with genjutsu's as Madara has done to Kurama before. Will Tobi risk losing the tailed beasts when he is so close to having them all?
It was said that Tobi is the Zetsu clone of Madara?!
So Danzo/Kakashi don't have Sharingan? Did you not think that Tobi took them from Madara's dead body? Edo Tensei restores them to how they were when they died so he came back with both his eyes. It has to be your siblings eyes to obtain EMS that is all!
EonForce42
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Eh, I don't think you fully explained how the Tailed Beast are useless and Tobi taught Itachi and he was able to find CT's weakness. Yet, I'm still unsure as Tobi has rinnegan also so he can also use CT and he can have the Tailed Beast use the 6 paths abilities.
yea so neither side has a huge advantage. madara can get him with hashi's substitution jutsu. tobi can also attack him. But both sides would have a difficult time in landing a hit on each other. So tobi isnt just gonna win due to s/t jutsu.
bruce lee was uchiha
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what is tobi going to do for the 5 minutes he is untangible? if he can't be harmed that also means he can do no harm. the intangible arguement is pointless, and if you read the last part of my post you would have seen my theory on how an uchiha might be able to take tobi down while he is intangible.
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KakashiNinjaGaiden
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The beasts cant use the Path abilities TOBI stated that in the MANGA. With that logic Sasuke can use KUMOI? I didn't realise he was so OP might as well rename the manga.
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Everlasting Peace
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The reason I would say Tobi is stronger is... The fact we know so little of Tobi, and if Tobis is really Madera, however, he knows Madera as far was we know. Yes it's Madera/ plus hashi cells. However, do not forget that Tobi has Hashi cells as well, rinnegan, and his special Sharigan. He has Rinnegan, intangibility. Oh damn waite... He has or had 6 Jin's for his 6th paths, he has Tailed beast... Gedo. Yeah pretty over powered... 1 v 1 with Edo madera would definitely be Tobi.
KakashiNinjaGaiden
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I would also disagree that Tobi can use Preta path, Gedo Mazo and is effective in offence with intangibility. If you read the anime you will know Gedo Mazo is only active when all Bijuus are in place he is actually controlling them using Rinnegan hence the chakra receivers.
Tobi states himself that he CANNOT use the paths of pain. Don't know why people still try and give him extra powers.
When Tobi attacks Minato he gets hit by a Rasengan. Tobi also cannot just shift enemies at full strength into his dimension also stated at the Kage Summit.
Something to think about