Edo Tensei is the most overrated jutsu in the manga!!! Read OP

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In a realistic scenario, where two character meets (Itachi and Kabuto), the user of Edo Tensei is not going use that jutsu if he thinks he can beat his opponent. Kabuto thought he can beat both Itachi and Sasuke without Edo Tensei and guess what, he lost. We can all think of thousands of "What If" scenario's, the end result will still remain the same. (You can try out all the what if scenario in the battledome. This is the library!)

All of Kabuto's Edo zombies are being shot down dead by the likes of Chouji, Omoi, Kankuro and Sai. Kabuto had many legendary shinobi's under his control, nearly all of them are at Kage level and beyond. He had Hanzo, Deidara, Sasori, Muu, Madara, 2nd Mizukage, 3rd Raikage, Kinkaku, Chiyo, Ginkaku, Nagato, Kakuzu and most of them lost against shinobi's weaker than them. Kakuzu, Deidara, Muu and 3rd Raikage can wipe out an entire army, so one would have thought Kabuto should have won this war by now without any problem, but so far he has been a real disappointment.

Edo Tensei drawbacks
- Kabuto cannot control all of the shinobi's at once
- Kabuto cannot control Edo zombie and fight at the same time
- Edo Zombie with high will power can break free (Hanzo)
- Kabuto does not know how to use a Shinobi power (Nagato knows how to use his power better than Kabuto)
- Kabuto does not have full knowledge on a shinobi powers/jutsu, so he has to let go some of the controls in order for the summons to be effective
- Some summons can turn on the user (Chiyo decided to tell the alliance of Hanzo's weakness)
- Every single shinobi Kabuto summoned, hates the jutsu and the user. They all wouldn't want to be controlled.

I seen many people state that "If Kabuto summoned Madara, Itachi would be dead." And I'm like "if Orochimaru summoned Hashirama, Itachi would be dead." "If Orochimaru stabbed Itachi with a Kunai, Itachi would be dead."
What people don't realize is that in a realistic scenario where the user acts in character will not summon Edo Tensei everytime they have a fight. Look at Orochimaru, in character, his not going to use Edo Tensei against everyone. He decided to use specifically Hashirama and Tobirama against Hiruzen to break him down emotionally.

So like I said, Kabuto mastered his Sage Mode and has all of the sound 4 abilities, so in character he will not use Edo Tensei against Itachi since he will think he can take him down without it.

One of the main reason why Kabuto does not use Edo Tensei when his fighting an opponent is that his opponent can defeat it before the coffins opens up. Hiruzen is known as the god of shinobi, the professor and he happens to know every single jutsu within the village. He believed that a Kunai/Shuriken attacks on the coffin before it opens up can stop his master (Tobirama) jutsu. So again in a realistic scenario against Itachi, the coffin would not open. Itachi has superior feats in shuriken/kunai throwing skills than Hiruzen. Itachi is faster, can throw more weapons and has the best accuracy in the manga. So if Kabuto attempted to summon Madara against Itachi, he would only be wasting his chakra.

In the end, it depends on the user of the jutsu. From the manga evidence, we know Kabuto and Orochimaru is not a good user of this jutsu. So that means the jutsu does not give them a huge power ups. From manga evidence we know Tobirama was better, since if he had Deidara under his control during the war, he would send him into a war on his own and spam C0.
 

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Kabuto just soloed the whole world how is it overrated?
 
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edo is the only reason this war is interesting, weve seen in used in a one on one battle as well as on a large scale, whatchu talkin about willis
 

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The strongest technique in the Narutoverse isn't overrated.
 

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Id say he could have used it as a failsafe against Itachi and Sasuke, but his arrogance got in the way of that, so he continued his assault and so far has gotten owned because of HIS MISTAKE, not that of Edo Tensei.

It would not take much to step back from an fireball or what ever and summon a few kage level helpers.
 

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I'd say CHIBAKU TENSAI is the strongest when regarding to a fighting JUTSU, true.
 

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excuse me are you saying that if you could bring back the most powerful shinobi of all time like madara and 10000000000 others it's still not the most powerful jutsu ? Then if you are saying that you are ****** and a ****
 

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excuse me are you saying that if you could bring back the most powerful shinobi of all time like madara and 10000000000 others it's still not the most powerful jutsu ? Then if you are saying that you are ****** and a ****

I'm saying if the So6P fought every EDO TENSAI, the Sage would win and the final JUTSU he would use to finish them off would be CHIBAKU TENSAI.
HENCE GREATES JUTSU OUT AYE.
 

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Becouse bringing back some the most powerful ninja is truly patheticly weak
 

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Sorry, but Banbutsu Sōzō is the best.

This isn't even a technique but an ability. Rikudo Sennin used his Yin and Yang power in order to create all things. Above no one can use this technique any more.
 

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In a realistic scenario, where two character meets (Itachi and Kabuto), the user of Edo Tensei is not going use that jutsu if he thinks he can beat his opponent. Kabuto thought he can beat both Itachi and Sasuke without Edo Tensei and guess what, he lost. We can all think of thousands of "What If" scenario's, the end result will still remain the same. (You can try out all the what if scenario in the battledome. This is the library!)

All of Kabuto's Edo zombies are being shot down dead by the likes of Chouji, Omoi, Kankuro and Sai. Kabuto had many legendary shinobi's under his control, nearly all of them are at Kage level and beyond. He had Hanzo, Deidara, Sasori, Muu, Madara, 2nd Mizukage, 3rd Raikage, Kinkaku, Chiyo, Ginkaku, Nagato, Kakuzu and most of them lost against shinobi's weaker than them. Kakuzu, Deidara, Muu and 3rd Raikage can wipe out an entire army, so one would have thought Kabuto should have won this war by now without any problem, but so far he has been a real disappointment.

Edo Tensei drawbacks
- Kabuto cannot control all of the shinobi's at once
- Kabuto cannot control Edo zombie and fight at the same time
- Edo Zombie with high will power can break free (Hanzo)
- Kabuto does not know how to use a Shinobi power (Nagato knows how to use his power better than Kabuto)
- Kabuto does not have full knowledge on a shinobi powers/jutsu, so he has to let go some of the controls in order for the summons to be effective
- Some summons can turn on the user (Chiyo decided to tell the alliance of Hanzo's weakness)
- Every single shinobi Kabuto summoned, hates the jutsu and the user. They all wouldn't want to be controlled.

I seen many people state that "If Kabuto summoned Madara, Itachi would be dead." And I'm like "if Orochimaru summoned Hashirama, Itachi would be dead." "If Orochimaru stabbed Itachi with a Kunai, Itachi would be dead."
What people don't realize is that in a realistic scenario where the user acts in character will not summon Edo Tensei everytime they have a fight. Look at Orochimaru, in character, his not going to use Edo Tensei against everyone. He decided to use specifically Hashirama and Tobirama against Hiruzen to break him down emotionally.

So like I said, Kabuto mastered his Sage Mode and has all of the sound 4 abilities, so in character he will not use Edo Tensei against Itachi since he will think he can take him down without it.

One of the main reason why Kabuto does not use Edo Tensei when his fighting an opponent is that his opponent can defeat it before the coffins opens up. Hiruzen is known as the god of shinobi, the professor and he happens to know every single jutsu within the village. He believed that a Kunai/Shuriken attacks on the coffin before it opens up can stop his master (Tobirama) jutsu. So again in a realistic scenario against Itachi, the coffin would not open. Itachi has superior feats in shuriken/kunai throwing skills than Hiruzen. Itachi is faster, can throw more weapons and has the best accuracy in the manga. So if Kabuto attempted to summon Madara against Itachi, he would only be wasting his chakra.

In the end, it depends on the user of the jutsu. From the manga evidence, we know Kabuto and Orochimaru is not a good user of this jutsu. So that means the jutsu does not give them a huge power ups. From manga evidence we know Tobirama was better, since if he had Deidara under his control during the war, he would send him into a war on his own and spam C0.

Wrong on almost every account. Kabuto used Edo Orochimaru, Kimimaru, and 4 assistants, and Anko. Itachi can seal all of them except Kabuto right away. The extent Kabuto allows them to move freely is up to him - he can clamp down or let them roam free based off stylistic inclination.
 

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In a realistic scenario, where two character meets (Itachi and Kabuto), the user of Edo Tensei is not going use that jutsu if he thinks he can beat his opponent. Kabuto thought he can beat both Itachi and Sasuke without Edo Tensei and guess what, he lost. We can all think of thousands of "What If" scenario's, the end result will still remain the same. (You can try out all the what if scenario in the battledome. This is the library!)

All of Kabuto's Edo zombies are being shot down dead by the likes of Chouji, Omoi, Kankuro and Sai. Kabuto had many legendary shinobi's under his control, nearly all of them are at Kage level and beyond. He had Hanzo, Deidara, Sasori, Muu, Madara, 2nd Mizukage, 3rd Raikage, Kinkaku, Chiyo, Ginkaku, Nagato, Kakuzu and most of them lost against shinobi's weaker than them. Kakuzu, Deidara, Muu and 3rd Raikage can wipe out an entire army, so one would have thought Kabuto should have won this war by now without any problem, but so far he has been a real disappointment.

Edo Tensei drawbacks
- Kabuto cannot control all of the shinobi's at once
- Kabuto cannot control Edo zombie and fight at the same time
- Edo Zombie with high will power can break free (Hanzo)
- Kabuto does not know how to use a Shinobi power (Nagato knows how to use his power better than Kabuto)
- Kabuto does not have full knowledge on a shinobi powers/jutsu, so he has to let go some of the controls in order for the summons to be effective
- Some summons can turn on the user (Chiyo decided to tell the alliance of Hanzo's weakness)
- Every single shinobi Kabuto summoned, hates the jutsu and the user. They all wouldn't want to be controlled.

I seen many people state that "If Kabuto summoned Madara, Itachi would be dead." And I'm like "if Orochimaru summoned Hashirama, Itachi would be dead." "If Orochimaru stabbed Itachi with a Kunai, Itachi would be dead."
What people don't realize is that in a realistic scenario where the user acts in character will not summon Edo Tensei everytime they have a fight. Look at Orochimaru, in character, his not going to use Edo Tensei against everyone. He decided to use specifically Hashirama and Tobirama against Hiruzen to break him down emotionally.

So like I said, Kabuto mastered his Sage Mode and has all of the sound 4 abilities, so in character he will not use Edo Tensei against Itachi since he will think he can take him down without it.

One of the main reason why Kabuto does not use Edo Tensei when his fighting an opponent is that his opponent can defeat it before the coffins opens up. Hiruzen is known as the god of shinobi, the professor and he happens to know every single jutsu within the village. He believed that a Kunai/Shuriken attacks on the coffin before it opens up can stop his master (Tobirama) jutsu. So again in a realistic scenario against Itachi, the coffin would not open. Itachi has superior feats in shuriken/kunai throwing skills than Hiruzen. Itachi is faster, can throw more weapons and has the best accuracy in the manga. So if Kabuto attempted to summon Madara against Itachi, he would only be wasting his chakra.

In the end, it depends on the user of the jutsu. From the manga evidence, we know Kabuto and Orochimaru is not a good user of this jutsu. So that means the jutsu does not give them a huge power ups. From manga evidence we know Tobirama was better, since if he had Deidara under his control during the war, he would send him into a war on his own and spam C0.

So lets take a look at your claim.

It doesn't matter whether or not the user will use Edo Tensei, it's still there, and it still represents immense power, so you're not at all giving it a weakness. Thus, your first paragraph means nothing.

The fact that his Edo's have all been defeated does not make them particularly weak. They do happen to be fighting the JOINT SHINOBI ARMY. That's a LOT of shinobi. if you discount the zetsu clones (which have mostly died out) then it's like 100 vs 40000. Eventually, they will lose. The fact that it's taken so long, and that they've killed so many shows how ridiculously powerful the jutsu is.

About your weaknesses
-yes, Kabuto CAN control all of the edos at once. They only reason he had trouble with it during the war was because he was fighting from so far away. In a 1 v 1 scenario, he will be close enough to control all of them easily.
-he doesn't need to control them, he has them programmed to attack a particular person/people, and so they are basically on some sort of auto-pilot, where he also has the abilities to fight alongside them
-The ONLY reason Hanzo did what he did was because Kabuto gave him control of himself thinking that he would just follow the original orders to kill those in the shinobi army. He did not count on him meeting the samurai. If he had fought anyone else that would not have happened.
-Your next two points are similar to the one above. Since he does not know their full powers, he has let many more or less control themselves, which is a good strategy! The only downfall is that those who are originally good can tell the opponent what they are doing and whatnot. However, he can just take complete control of those and they would no longer do that. They may be a bit weaker, because he doesn't understand their full power, but still, they will still be immensely powerful ninja.
-So what? They can't get out of it. Only Itachi did on some fluke.

Your next two paragraphs are repititions of your first, they do not take away anything from the jutsu itself.

Completely wrong on the stopping the coffins account, Hiruzen did not stop it, it just didn't work because the fourth hokage was already sealed and could not be revived. Hiruzen did absolutely nothing to stop it (and do you really think some shuriken hitting a coffin will stop the jutsu? That's just a ridiculous notion).

EVERY JUTSU DEPENDS ON ITS USER. That's obvious. It doesn't take anything away from the jutsu itself. So basically, you're completely wrong, go make a thread that makes sense.
 

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Oh lord, just so far from the truth...
 
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