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You guys should know that just because someone has MS sharingan or Reningan does not mean their better than someone with inferioir eyes. Smarts count allot people and the power to analyze your openent with quickness and quickly know their weakness. For example minato defeated tobi only because he outsmarted him.

Another example is Tobi is > then Nagato even with 3 tomeo sharingan. Why? Because raw power is not everything. Tobi is much smarter then Nagato and he knows Nagatos weakness.

Look at sasuke and itachi. Sasuke has Ems while itachi has plain MS. We all know itachi would win even though he doesnt have EMS. Why? Its because Raw power isnt much in a fight when you are going against someone who will quickly find your weakness and cripple you by taking advantage. For example ifsasuke fights itachi with, itachi would win because he knows if he makes sasuke loose his cool he can kill him.

All im saying is that Raw Power is not everything people. A MS user can beat a reningan user. Raw Piwer is not TRUE power. Skill is true power not Raw power.
 
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Totally agree that smarts count for ALOT in this, but the Sharingan does help to spot weaknesses too. Naruto isnt very intelligent but Sasuke (aside from being psycho) is. In a one on one with the same abilities Sasuke would win, Naruto would just hit it up to Fox mode and summon a billion clones to get the upperhand. Thats the naruto signature move, i cant outsmart it so i'll outnumber it
 

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Totally agree that smarts count for ALOT in this, but the Sharingan does help to spot weaknesses too. Naruto isnt very intelligent but Sasuke (aside from being psycho) is. In a one on one with the same abilities Sasuke would win, Naruto would just hit it up to Fox mode and summon a billion clones to get the upperhand. Thats the naruto signature move, i cant outsmart it so i'll outnumber it
A good way to counter clones would be to use taijutsu only eith very minimal chajra jutsu. Sasuke is not smart enough to go against someone like naruto because he will spam his susanoo and chakra..
 

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A good way to counter clones would be to use taijutsu only eith very minimal chajra jutsu. Sasuke is not smart enough to go against someone like naruto because he will spam his susanoo and chakra..
Sasuke is smart, if you watch all his fights before Itachi's death you'll see how smart he is. Now he's just seeking for revenge in an anger trying to kill at any cost doesn't matter how.
Don't underestimate Sasuke m8.

GTFO if u wanna discuss nagato vs Itach because this thread is NOT for sich a discussion!
"GTFO" sounds kinda rude saying to a person who just came asking your opinion. He just wanted to know who would you pick as Itachi is smarter than Nagato and Nagato is powerful than Itachi I think he thought you'd probably say Itachi would win. Anyways, raw power alone doesn't mean everything but also intelligence alone doesn't mean everything either.
But when the power is brute then its hard even if you're smartest one.
 

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Sasuke is smart, if you watch all his fights before Itachi's death you'll see how smart he is. Now he's just seeking for revenge in an anger trying to kill at any cost doesn't matter how.
Don't underestimate Sasuke m8.


"GTFO" sounds kinda rude saying to a person who just came asking your opinion. He just wanted to know who would you pick as Itachi is smarter than Nagato and Nagato is powerful than Itachi I think he thought you'd probably say Itachi would win. Anyways, raw power alone doesn't mean everything but also intelligence alone doesn't mean everything either.
But when the power is brute then its hard even if you're smartest one.
I know it sounded rude but I don't want this to turn into a lame Itachi vs nagato thread.

true great point all warfare is based on deception and itachi is a master
Tobi is really smart too and madara.
^ Agreed. Everyone knows it would be a draw. Come on...
Bro, nagato would start spamming his techniques and such. Chibuka tensie is useless because yotaska blade can seal anything. But at the same tike Itachi I will tire out from cancelling nagayos justsu. Please that's my last reply on a Itachi vs nagato post. It will end a draw...
 
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Actually there still are people who thinks having power and able to blast everything around him is enough to easily kill someone much less powered but in a total different level when it comes to intelligence. The smartest one can even use the powerful one to hit him with his own tech.

But it all has limits like for example Shikamaru vs Nagato or even Kakashi vs Nagato in this case power wins but there is always the possibility of the "other way round".
So far Minato, Itachi and Tobi are the principal catalysts for the whole happening actions and they all are intelligent.
 

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I agree to a extent, brawn ain't everything, but at the same time i highly disagree, because of the simple fact that brains matters alot, but its overrated to a point where everyone thinks that brains can do EVERYTHING by itself, ive said this before that brawn is nothing without brains and brains sure as hell is nothing without brawn,the people here have a stupidity level much over 9000 because they believe itachi could have gotten where hes at own his own, people seem to forget that his brains did only HALF the work, and to be honest the some things hes thought of and done anyone can do and most have, so i don't really see why you don't have other names listed besides him, and btw their are people smarter than itachi like for instance... tobi,kabuto,minato(and i have reasons for saying him)maybe shikamaru,hell you can even say orochimaru was smarter than itachi,and remember brains has limits without brawn, you can only think your way outta the jaws of death so many times..
 
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i agree to a extent, brawn ain't everything but at the same time i highly disagree, because of the simple fact simple fact that brains matters alot, but its overrated to a point where everyone thinks that brains can do EVERYTHING by itself, live said this before that brawn is nothing without brains and brains sure as hell is nothing without brawn, because the people here have a stupidity level much over 9000 because they believe itachi could have gotten where hes at own his own, people seem to forget that his brains did only HALF the work, and honest the things hes thought of and done anyone can do and most have so, i don't really see why you don't have other names listed besides him, and btw their are people smarter than itachi like tobi for instance..
I said its a crucial fact not everything lol. No brains u loose, good brains u got a much better chance of wining lol
 
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