Itachi vs Nidaime Tsuchikage

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Non person vs one of the strongest Uchiha.
Who wins?
 

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Itachi can't see him nor survive Jinton, and if he finally kills him Muu can just split and can already sense everything Itachi is about to do so...yeah.
 

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Itachi can't see him

Once again weak arguments for a bold post joki,
Itachi on multiple ocassions has been able to predict an attack without looking

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-Cleanly negating an ambush (that got )

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-Noticed Sasuke before Kisame or Naruto (who was facing him) did.

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-He knew (sensed?) that Sasuke wasn't dead when Akatsuki believed it so.

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-He sensed Sasuke when Fukasaku and Mikoto, Uchiha Jounin, did not.

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-Itachi located Sasuke and instructed him to go to the Uchiha hideout.

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-He controls chakra further away than most sensors can sense it.

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-He was blind, and "felt" Orochimaru's technique.

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and thats just him using his heightened senses and perception and even if you take those senses away. he is still able to form a defense Simply analyzing an opponents motives, If muu thinks his invisibility pose a threat to itachi and his perception or gives him an easy advantage, he will get butt****ed by amerterasu or the sword of totsuka.


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nor survive Jinton,


Databook III pages 274-275
The Yata Mirror was carried by Itachi's Susanoo in its left hand and is considered one of the three sacred treasures. It is said to be endowed with all nature transformations and as such changes its own characteristics depending on those of the attack it receives, making any technique ineffective. Zetsu claimed that this, combined with the Sword of Totsuka held in its right hand, essentially made Susanoo invincible


Also you forgot how long jinton takes to form, because itachi can make hand seals for an attack faster than the human eye can register kakashi despite having the sharingan commented on itachi's superhuman hand seals by stating his hand seals looked like a blur, if itachi does this muu will be forced to dodge and stop his forming of the jintonn release. if he can react at all the much faster kabuto was unable to do so.

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and if he finally kills him Muu can just split

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jokis opinion and can already sense everything Itachi is about to do so...yeah.

Oh really? because SM kabuto despite having sensory abilities including the sage modes ability to sense danger, was still unable to react to itachi's suprise attack

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replace itachis intentions to the intention to kill and kabutos horn with muus head, and there you have one dead tshukage,

Jiraya stated that even chakra sensing if not efficent for reacting to opponents attacks, pain was able to form a defense for jirayas fastest attack because of his shared vision

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and the tschukage himself has not got anywhere near raikage level reaction feats (he is an easy target for Amaterasu or the totsuka sword) so yeahhh....​
 

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Once again weak arguments for a bold post joki,
Itachi on multiple ocassions has been able to predict an attack without looking

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-Cleanly negating an ambush (that got )

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-Noticed Sasuke before Kisame or Naruto (who was facing him) did.

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-He knew (sensed?) that Sasuke wasn't dead when Akatsuki believed it so.

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-He sensed Sasuke when Fukasaku and Mikoto, Uchiha Jounin, did not.

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-Itachi located Sasuke and instructed him to go to the Uchiha hideout.

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-He controls chakra further away than most sensors can sense it.

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-He was blind, and "felt" Orochimaru's technique.

>> <<

and thats just him using his heightened senses and perception and even if you take those senses away. he is still able to form a defense Simply analyzing an opponents motives, If muu thinks his invisibility pose a threat to itachi and his perception or gives him an easy advantage, he will get butt****ed by amerterasu or the sword of totsuka.








Also you forgot how long jinton takes to form, because itachi can make hand seals for an attack faster than the human eye can register kakashi despite having the sharingan commented on itachi's superhuman hand seals by stating his hand seals looked like a blur, if itachi does this muu will be forced to dodge and stop his forming of the jintonn release. if he can react at all the much faster kabuto was unable to do so.

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Oh really? because SM kabuto despite having sensory abilities including the sage modes ability to sense danger, was still unable to react to itachi's suprise attack

>> <<

replace itachis intentions to the intention to kill and kabutos horn with muus head, and there you have one dead tshukage,

Jiraya stated that even chakra sensing if not efficent for reacting to opponents attacks, pain was able to form a defense for jirayas fastest attack because of his shared vision

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and the tschukage himself has not got anywhere near raikage level reaction feats (he is an easy target for Amaterasu or the totsuka sword) so yeahhh....​
Most of those links were rendered BS by the fact that Muu is invisible, with no visible chakra. It doesn't matter if Itachi can see a visible walking person...did you forget Muu had his invisibility technique?

You also must have forgotten the whole part about Yata Mirror changing its chakra nature, when Muu has a Kekkai Tota(and can simply attack from behind) probably not the best idea.

Also must have forgotten the part about SM giving enhanced reactions and Kabuto forgetting the horn existing. Muu literally can sense him from a mile away. Itachi isn't doing crap here, he can't even reach him in the sky let alone kill him.
 

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Itachi can see chakra with the Sharingan as well, Muus invincibility is useless.
 

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Itachi can see chakra with the Sharingan as well, Muus invincibility is useless.

You don't know all his techniques? He is able to hide his chakra too.. He is complete invisible..
 

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Most of those links were rendered BS by the fact that Muu is invisible, with no visible chakra. It doesn't matter if Itachi can see a visible walking person...did you forget Muu had his invisibility technique?

You also must have forgotten the whole part about Yata Mirror changing its chakra nature, when Muu has a Kekkai Tota(and can simply attack from behind) probably not the best idea.

Also must have forgotten the part about SM giving enhanced reactions and Kabuto forgetting the horn existing. Muu literally can sense him from a mile away. Itachi isn't doing crap here, he can't even reach him in the sky let alone kill him.

sigh.. it's not a surprise you haven't nothing to say after getting completely destroyed like that. i regarded all of muus abilities shown and it seems you regarded non of itachis,

It's simply another wank argument from joki, no surprise coming from the guy who thinks SM naruto can solo pain and itachi.
 

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MU. Itachi cant see him with the full extent of his invisibility and jiton is pretty much unstoppable.

He can just run around and play for a while. Plus his sensor abilities make him better for fighting Itachi. Gen.
 

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if muu erases his chakra then he can sneak behind itachi and cut his head off with his twin swords on his back.
if itachi can see him then muu is still a user of flight and sensing, and managed to dodge KCM naruto. so amat and totsuka arent hitting him.
if itachi tries initial susano then jinton to the face

because itachi can make hand seals for an attack faster than the human eye can register kakashi despite having the sharingan commented on itachi's superhuman hand seals by stating his hand seals looked like a blur,
muu is much much much faster than part 1 kakashi and he too dodged an attack without seeing it coming

It is said to be endowed with all nature transformations and as such changes its own characteristics depending on those of the attack it receives
jinton is a kekkei tota. not the best idea to change its characteristics to dust element that explodes on contact with anytrhing and pulverises it
 

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if muu erases his chakra then he can sneak behind itachi and cut his head off with his twin swords on his back.
if itachi can see him then muu is still a user of flight and sensing, and managed to dodge KCM naruto. so amat and totsuka arent hitting him.
if itachi tries initial susano then jinton to the face

muu is much much much faster than part 1 kakashi and he too dodged an attack without seeing it coming

jinton is a kekkei tota. not the best idea to change its characteristics to dust element that explodes on contact with anytrhing and pulverises it

I beleive kcm naruto was mid air... When a ninja is in the air, no matter how fast they are they are on ground they can't project that same speed...

It's a neverending argument on whether Sharingan can see past Muu's invisibility..

Since he uses chakra to make his chakra invisible..


Non the less Itachi has shown his ability to know where others are even when his eyes are not seeing them..
I'm guessing he uses his other senses.. Just like hiruzen used his other senses on the edos...

 

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sigh.. it's not a surprise you haven't nothing to say after getting completely destroyed like that. i regarded all of muus abilities shown and it seems you regarded non of itachis,

It's simply another wank argument from joki, no surprise coming from the guy who thinks SM naruto can solo pain and itachi.
That's weird, I don't recall having ever done anything to you to require such random retaliation

Although sending flames my way is absolutely no excuse for you lack of argument--calling me an idiot does not substitute for your failure to refute my points.

Muu is entirely invisible in sight and in chakra and has flight, I've rebutted your arguments, it's only you who is ignoring them and baselessly calling it wank

USSJ also speaks the truth.
 

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Non the less Itachi has shown his ability to know where others are even when his eyes are not seeing them..
users of invisibility also erase their smell. read kakashi gaiden. and muus a non person so he has no chakra for sharingan to see.
 

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I can't understand while this debate continues on. Itachi cannot sense Muu and his susano'o does not prevent a jinton to the back. Fanboys, you need to accept that Itachi loses this one.
 
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