minato cant dodge amaterasu

can he dodge

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The closer something is to you the more reflexes you need dimwit, not more speed...

You can be the fastest man in the world, and if a bullet is fired two feet away from you, you're dead...

If you have heightened reflexes of that of a jedi or the people in matrix, The bullets will practically be moving slower for you or in better words you have more time to react and you can dodge them with normal speed

Hey... dubahh. You need reflex and speed. Reflex alone will not help you dodge it.

Answer this: Would the Raikage have been able to dodge Amaterasu with just reflex... or did his speed not make a difference?
 

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now the desperate itachi fanboys says that minato got less reflexes than A since shee said it. ok minato CANT dodge amaterasu. but Jiraiya = kisame and itachi since itachi said so :rofl:
 

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Hey... dubahh. You need reflex and speed. Reflex alone will not help you dodge it.

Answer this: Would the Raikage have been able to dodge Amaterasu with just reflex... or did his speed not make a difference?

Jesus christ, Ofc speed plays a part in dodging something I've said this what? a million times already?

The only way raikage could dodge amaterasu with normal speed is if his reflexes were quintuple what they were now....And if to him, amaterasu was moving as slow as a snail
 

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Jesus christ, Ofc speed plays a part in dodging something I've said this what? a million times already?

The only way raikage could dodge amaterasu with normal speed is if his reflexes were quintuple what they were now....And if to him, amaterasu was moving as slow as a snail

Wow... really? Go make some research with Google. There is no way he would have been able to dodge something that is 'instant' and actually moves faster than him. Even if his reflexes were greater than V2, he would have never been able to dodge it.

The closer something is to you... the greater your reflexes and speed have to be.

Edit: If Amaterasu was closer to him than it was before when he first dodged it, his reflexes and speed must be greater than before for him to be able to dodge it.
 
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now the desperate itachi fanboys says that minato got less reflexes than A since shee said it. ok minato CANT dodge amaterasu. but Jiraiya = kisame and itachi since itachi said so :rofl:

At first I thought who would post something so irrelevant and completely distant to what the actual thread is about then I looked at your avatar and gave up on trying to argue with minato fanboys
 

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At first I thought who would post something so irrelevant and completely distant to what the actual thread is about then I looked at your avatar and gave up on trying to argue with minato fanboys


another fanboy who thinks amaterasu is the fastest attack in the narutoverse :rofl: itachi>hashirama there you go now are you happy?
 

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another fanboy who thinks amaterasu is the fastest attack in the narutoverse :rofl: itachi>hashirama there you go now are you happy?

Since Amaterasu is the fastest Jutsu in Narutoverse... I guess Sasuke can rape Hashirama. After all... Hashirama did lose to Madara because of Amaterasu.
 

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i made a thread but ofcourse everybody ignored it -______- (in my sig)

a few things happen before sasuke' amaterasu- his eyes bleed and you can see that his eyes get strained BUT none of these things are what helped raikage as he moved just before the flames got hold of him. It is not like raikage saw the flames coming out of sasuke's sharingan and coming towards him

as zetsu says
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the black flames converge exactly on that spot the eye focuses.

heres where my theory comes.


there is a time gap between the appearance of the black flames and their catching hold/sticking to the target.
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this time gap is infinitesimally small (meaning very very small) but it still exists.

amaterasu can be avoided as long as you have two abilities-
1. ability to react in a split second
2. ability to move in a split second



The raikage actually felt the heat of the amaterasu flames as they appeared (notice how the flames appear below his head while he stares straight at sasuke),
(though he may not be familiar with amaterasu but he wasn't underestimating a mangekyou sharingan fighter) and hence due to his instantaneous reflexes he moved away

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notice how manga states-" synapses fire as fast as a flash of light" meaning the raikage has instantaneous reflexes or ability to react in a split second (not the exact biology but the meaning is same)

why should the manga talk about it and not about his speed or strength unless it is relevant to what is coming immediately after?
this right here is the key to amaterasu's weakness

whether it be a fodder ninja or a kage he will feel the heat of the flames as they appear
and now comes the second part. He must exploit the time gap to get away from the focus of the eye to prevent the flames from sticking to him. This cannot be done unless you have the first ability

you must also possess another ability that is the ability to get away in a split second. Raikage used his shunshin no jutsu to get away.
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this means that you don't really need to look in the eye to be able to avoid amaterasu. The flames are gonna appear directly on the part of your body the eye focuses, you are gonna feel it and as long as you have both the abilities you will remain unharmed.

minato has both reflexes and ftg

It should be noted that ppl will say raikages v2 reflexes allowed him to dodge him and Minato can't dodge it. That's actually a flawed logic. Raikage relies on nerve transmissions to move his body and even then his speed<<<FTG. That's why he just barely dodged it

Think of it as this way. Two ppl have to open a door. One has to run all the way to open it and one simply has a button to open the door. Both get the job done


非常に面白い良い仕事 (Very interesting good job)
 

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Wow... really? Go make some research with Google. There is no way he would have been able to dodge something that is 'instant' and actually moves faster than him. Even if his reflexes were greater than V2, he would have never been able to dodge it.

The closer something is to you... the greater your reflexes and speed have to be.

You're the one who needs to do some googling my friend.. If raikage's reflexes were qunituple what they are now, if his reflexes were the likes of Jedi's etc, he could simply dodge it before it hit him

 

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Since Amaterasu is the fastest Jutsu in Narutoverse... I guess Sasuke can rape Hashirama. After all... Hashirama did lose to Madara because of Amaterasu.

lets leave minato and become uchiha fanboys since they are the strongest in narutoverse they can 1 shot anyone :rofl:
 

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You're the one who needs to do some googling my friend.. If raikage's reflexes were qunituple what they are now, if his reflexes were the likes of Jedi's etc, he could simply dodge it before it hit him


Of course, but what I'm trying to tell you is that if Amaterasu was closer to him than it was before when he first dodged it... then his speed and reflex must be greater than it was before for him to be able to dodge it. Get it?
 

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Lol when did I say Amaterasu was the fastest attack

then which is faster V2 attack or Amaterasu?

v2 attack is the fastest attack since he is now the fastest man alive and amaterasu is faster than v2 attack according to your co-fanboys and if amaterasu is faster that makes it the fastest attack. now choose your destiny :rofl:
 
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ROFLMAO. this thread rocks. kishi is just doodling with izanami & izanage. Poor fool doesnt know, Amaterasu is all that is needed to burn the entire narutoverse!!! lol

SOMEBODY POINT THIS OUT TO KISHI PLEASE!
 

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ROFLMAO. this thread rocks. kishi is just doodling with izanami & izanage. Poor fool doesnt know, Amaterasu is all that is needed to burn the entire narutoverse!!! lol

SOMEBODY POINT THIS OUT TO KISHI PLEASE!

I like you XD
 

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It's hard to believe that Ispeak fooled the likes of Owarij and others by comparing the speed of a car and man to Minato dodging a full speed A.

I'll explain why his comparison fails:

Speed: the magnitude of its velocity= the distance traveled by the object divided by the duration of the interval

reflex: The automatic response of a muscle to a stimulus:

I'll give an example:

If any of you knows martial arts of any form then you'll know what a reflex means. Me, i've studied taekwondo on my college days. Let's talk about sparring for example to know what reflex means.

If you are on a sparring session and one feints (are maneuvers designed to distract or mislead) like he will kick you and you automatically do side step or move back then it will show how fast you react with that. That was called a reflex but the distance covered was little. You are responding to what you see. So, in a reflex, body movement and the ability to see fast objects goes along with each other.

Reflex shows how fast you react to something. But if we would like to know your speed at that moment then it can be calculated. See the difference now?

Ispeak talks about a car and a man. Even if a man has super reflexes, he can't avoid a 500mph car 1 inch away from him because his speed is outmatched by the speeding car.

In Minato vs A Minato dodged A at his full speed. It means that Minato was able to react and he respond to it quickly just like A dodging Amaterasu. He was able to dodge it because he has speed needed to avoid it and he was able to react something coming at him.

Both Minato and A were dodging, so it simply means that both of them have reacted to something coming at them. That was called reflex. They both reacted to something and responded to it.

If A uses his full speed and Minato was able to react to it then it means that Minato can react to something that A was able to react because A's speed that time was needed to dodge something fast. His speed was associated with his reflex.

Is it this hard to understand?
 
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It's hard to believe that Ispeak fooled the likes of Owarij and others by comparing the speed of a car and man to Minato dodging a full speed A.

I'll explain why his comparison fails:

Speed: the magnitude of its velocity= the distance traveled by the object divided by the duration of the interval

reflex: The automatic response of a muscle to a stimulus:

I'll give an example:

If any of you knows martial arts of any form then you'll know what a reflex means. Me, i've studied taekwondo on my college days. Let's take up taekwondo for example to know what reflex means.

If you are on a sparring session and one feints (are maneuvers designed to distract or mislead) like he will kick you and you automatically do side step or move back then it will show how fast you react with that. That was called a reflex but the distance covered was little. You are responding to what you see. So, in a reflex, body movement and the ability to see fast objects goes along with each other.

Reflex shows how fast you react to something. But if we would like to know your speed at that moment then it can be calculated. See the difference now?

Ispeak talks about a car and a man. Even if a man has super reflexes, he can't avoid a 500mph car 1 inch away from him because his speed is outmatched by the speeding car.

In Minato vs A Minato dodged A at his full speed. It means that Minato was able to react and he respond to it quickly just like A dodging Amaterasu. He was able to dodge it because he has speed needed to avoid it and he was able to react something coming at him.

Both Minato and A were dodging, so it simply means that both of them have reacted to something coming at them. That was called reflex. They both reacted to something and responded to it.

If A uses his full speed and Minato was able to react to it then it means that Minato can react to something that A was able to react because A's speed that time was needed to dodge something fast. His speed was associated with his reflex.

Is it this hard to understand?

the think that since minato dodge A's fastest attack in a centimeters away from his face if you change that to amaterasu(they believe that is faster than A's fastest attack coz dodging a bullet doesnt mean your faster than a bullet) and minatos reflexes are inferior to A's reflexes coz of shee's statement. so he cant avoid amaterasu :rofl:
 

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the think that since minato dodge A's fastest attack in a centimeters away from his face if you change that to amaterasu(they believe that is faster than A's fastest attack coz dodging a bullet doesnt mean your faster than a bullet) and minatos reflexes are inferior to A's reflexes coz of shee's statement. so he cant avoid amaterasu :rofl:

They thought that without a speed and just a reflex A can dodge amaterasu. Their own example failed them. They nullify A's speed just to prove that Minato's speed isn't needed in dodging amaterasu and just reflex alone.
 

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It's hard to believe that Ispeak fooled the likes of Owarij and others by comparing the speed of a car and man to Minato dodging a full speed A.

I'll explain why his comparison fails:

Speed: the magnitude of its velocity= the distance traveled by the object divided by the duration of the interval

reflex: The automatic response of a muscle to a stimulus:

I'll give an example:

If any of you knows martial arts of any form then you'll know what a reflex means. Me, i've studied taekwondo on my college days. Let's talk about sparring for example to know what reflex means.

If you are on a sparring session and one feints (are maneuvers designed to distract or mislead) like he will kick you and you automatically do side step or move back then it will show how fast you react with that. That was called a reflex but the distance covered was little. You are responding to what you see. So, in a reflex, body movement and the ability to see fast objects goes along with each other.

Reflex shows how fast you react to something. But if we would like to know your speed at that moment then it can be calculated. See the difference now?

Ispeak talks about a car and a man. Even if a man has super reflexes, he can't avoid a 500mph car 1 inch away from him because his speed is outmatched by the speeding car.

In Minato vs A Minato dodged A at his full speed. It means that Minato was able to react and he respond to it quickly just like A dodging Amaterasu. He was able to dodge it because he has speed needed to avoid it and he was able to react something coming at him.

Both Minato and A were dodging, so it simply means that both of them have reacted to something coming at them. That was called reflex. They both reacted to something and responded to it.

If A uses his full speed and Minato was able to react to it then it means that Minato can react to something that A was able to react because A's speed that time was needed to dodge something fast. His speed was associated with his reflex.

Is it this hard to understand?

I tried telling them, but they are just stupid AF.
 

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Damn my brother got all this fame from a thread i told him to make Woooooow
 
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