minato cant dodge amaterasu

[JuJuMan]

i swear sauske was dodging amrutu left right and center...maybe sauske is faster than minato now

 

[joshuasama]

read first well A is speed where he can move so is naruto teleportation maybe instant but amaterasu automatically spawns on the enemies body so what im saying is that if sasuke or itachi were to use amaterasu on minato he cannot dodge it for one he woudnt no what it is so he wouldnt be so quick to ftg even then his ftg move him to another spot amaterasu will spawn on him there he cannot dodge it minato fans might flame but i will to so you minato fans dont start nothing wont none

raikage said " since the fourth is dead, i am the strongest man alife" if he can dodge ameteratsu, i see no reason y yondaime cannot. its common sense man...

 

[gazmatic]

read first well A is speed where he can move so is naruto teleportation maybe instant but amaterasu automatically spawns on the enemies body so what im saying is that if sasuke or itachi were to use amaterasu on minato he cannot dodge it for one he woudnt no what it is so he wouldnt be so quick to ftg even then his ftg move him to another spot amaterasu will spawn on him there he cannot dodge it minato fans might flame but i will to so you minato fans dont start nothing wont none

I wont even bother... Trollhunter's explaination should suffice... there may be a few flaws but less than your ridiculous theory. OK. i will explain a bit. A dodged the flames. Minato is faster than A hence your point is minato cannot dodge the flames? Minato=bugatti veyron. A=lamborgini murcielago. Bugati is obviously faster however as an extra this bugati has nitro/ftg


Re: minato cant dodge amaterasu
i made a thread but ofcourse everybody ignored it -______- (in my sig)

a few things happen before sasuke' amaterasu- his eyes bleed and you can see that his eyes get strained BUT none of these things are what helped raikage as he moved just before the flames got hold of him. It is not like raikage saw the flames coming out of sasuke's sharingan and coming towards him

as zetsu says


the black flames converge exactly on that spot the eye focuses.

heres where my theory comes.


there is a time gap between the appearance of the black flames and their catching hold/sticking to the target.


this time gap is infinitesimally small (meaning very very small) but it still exists.

amaterasu can be avoided as long as you have two abilities-
1. ability to react in a split second
2. ability to move in a split second

The raikage actually felt the heat of the amaterasu flames as they appeared (notice how the flames appear below his head while he stares straight at sasuke),
(though he may not be familiar with amaterasu but he wasn't underestimating a mangekyou sharingan fighter) and hence due to his instantaneous reflexes he moved away



notice how manga states-" synapses fire as fast as a flash of light" meaning the raikage has instantaneous reflexes or ability to react in a split second (not the exact biology but the meaning is same)

why should the manga talk about it and not about his speed or strength unless it is relevant to what is coming immediately after?
this right here is the key to amaterasu's weakness

whether it be a fodder ninja or a kage he will feel the heat of the flames as they appear
and now comes the second part. He must exploit the time gap to get away from the focus of the eye to prevent the flames from sticking to him. This cannot be done unless you have the first ability

you must also possess another ability that is the ability to get away in a split second. Raikage used his shunshin no jutsu to get away.



this means that you don't really need to look in the eye to be able to avoid amaterasu. The flames are gonna appear directly on the part of your body the eye focuses, you are gonna feel it and as long as you have both the abilities you will remain unharmed.

minato has both reflexes and ftg

 

[Sonin]

Okay he gets hit by it then instantly takes off his cape!! OMG WIN ;D

 

[itachisagenuis]

Your post didn't deserve a reply... but im a nice person so ill give one.

Common sense should tell you that Itachi wasn't trying to kill Sasuke with Amaterasu... he just wanted to burn Sasuke's wings. This is why he was being very careful and why he put out the flames after hitting him (before it could do majore damage), although Sasuke used the Body Shedding Technique anyway.

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But this is not all, Itachi was near enough blind whilst he was trying to hit Sasuke. This is all he could see:

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Imagine trying to carefully hit someone who is running, whilst your vision is that poor.

How people can try and use this as an excuse amazes me... which is why I never replied when people said it.

so basically u say that its not fast because itachi is blind etc etc, then please show me where it acutally did srs dmg to any major charachter in naruto
actually show me someone who didnt dodge it lol

 

[Flash]

Ok so raikage can dodge Amaterasu but the fastest ninja can't?.....I find it funny.....or does someone have any theory that Itachi's Amaterasu is faster than Sasuke's so it its possible to hit?

 

[UzumakiChencho]

minato is the fastest man of narutoverse if raikage dodge it why not minato

 

[Owarij]

I wont even bother... Trollhunter's explaination should suffice... there may be a few flaws but less than your ridiculous theory. OK. i will explain a bit. A dodged the flames. Minato is faster than A hence your point is minato cannot dodge the flames? Minato=bugatti veyron. A=lamborgini murcielago. Bugati is obviously faster however as an extra this bugati has nitro/ftg


Re: minato cant dodge amaterasu
i made a thread but ofcourse everybody ignored it -______- (in my sig)

a few things happen before sasuke' amaterasu- his eyes bleed and you can see that his eyes get strained BUT none of these things are what helped raikage as he moved just before the flames got hold of him. It is not like raikage saw the flames coming out of sasuke's sharingan and coming towards him

as zetsu says


the black flames converge exactly on that spot the eye focuses.

heres where my theory comes.


there is a time gap between the appearance of the black flames and their catching hold/sticking to the target.


this time gap is infinitesimally small (meaning very very small) but it still exists.

amaterasu can be avoided as long as you have two abilities-
1. ability to react in a split second
2. ability to move in a split second

The raikage actually felt the heat of the amaterasu flames as they appeared (notice how the flames appear below his head while he stares straight at sasuke),
(though he may not be familiar with amaterasu but he wasn't underestimating a mangekyou sharingan fighter) and hence due to his instantaneous reflexes he moved away



notice how manga states-" synapses fire as fast as a flash of light" meaning the raikage has instantaneous reflexes or ability to react in a split second (not the exact biology but the meaning is same)

why should the manga talk about it and not about his speed or strength unless it is relevant to what is coming immediately after?
this right here is the key to amaterasu's weakness

whether it be a fodder ninja or a kage he will feel the heat of the flames as they appear
and now comes the second part. He must exploit the time gap to get away from the focus of the eye to prevent the flames from sticking to him. This cannot be done unless you have the first ability

you must also possess another ability that is the ability to get away in a split second. Raikage used his shunshin no jutsu to get away.



this means that you don't really need to look in the eye to be able to avoid amaterasu. The flames are gonna appear directly on the part of your body the eye focuses, you are gonna feel it and as long as you have both the abilities you will remain unharmed.

minato has both reflexes and ftg

All good, but unfortunately Minato's reflexes aren't as great as v2 raikage.. thta was said by shee.
He has good reflexes.. but enough to dodge a's V2 attacks...
Amaterasu is faster than v2... And A needed a shunshin and his heightened reflexes to escape

 

[BloodSeed]

minato is the fastest man of narutoverse if raikage dodge it why not minato

because if he can, then theres no way itachi can beat him. so even if he could he shouldn't :flaw:

 

[uchiha sasuchi]

Minato dodged a blackhole made by madara,since raikage dodged amateratsu

 

[Owarij]

Minato dodged a blackhole made by madara,since raikage dodged amateratsu

The arguments of Minato fans are just getting worst and worst..

what.does.that.have.to.do.with.anything.we.are.talking.about

 

[FizzyDrink]

All good, but unfortunately Minato's reflexes aren't as great as v2 raikage.. thta was said by shee.
He has good reflexes.. but enough to dodge a's V2 attacks...
Amaterasu is faster than v2... And A needed a shunshin and his heightened reflexes to escape

Here's my final note. IF Minato is looking at the Uchiha, and sees the blood which comes before Amaterasu, he dodges it. I don't know about the air pressure thing, but I do not believe you have to be a sensor to feel that, you just have to be very in tune with your surrounding environment, and I believe Minato would be able to feel it (figured out how many enemies by just touching the ground). A change in air pressure GUARANTEES a fire ninjutsu, because of the combustion of oxygen (that's why the pressure changes). So he will KNOW FOR A FACT that there is a fire ninjutsu coming his way, and in that split second, he would be able to dodge it, because as I mentioned earlier, he has reflexes faster than even a sharingan can focus, and so he would get out before getting hit. I have proven the latter. So basically, if you look at it that way, he CAN escape amatersu, because he has the means to realize that it is coming (blood, air pressure), the reflexes to know to avoid it, and the speed to avoid it.

 

[TrollingSage]

All good, but unfortunately Minato's reflexes aren't as great as v2 raikage.. thta was said by shee.
He has good reflexes.. but enough to dodge a's V2 attacks...
Amaterasu is faster than v2... And A needed a shunshin and his heightened reflexes to escape

Well thats the thing. Minato doesnt really need v2 A's level of speed to dodge amaterasu. A had to physically move his body out of the way. Minato only has to think "teleport". And am not really sure about amaterasu being faster than A. When he dodged amaterasu, he only started moving when he saw the amaterasu forming on him. That means his speed is greater or atleast equal to amaterasu.

 

[Owarij]

Well thats the thing. Minato doesnt really need v2 A's level of speed to dodge amaterasu. A had to physically move his body out of the way. Minato only has to think "teleport". And am not really sure about amaterasu being faster than A. When he dodged amaterasu, he only started moving when he saw the amaterasu forming on him. That means his speed is greater or atleast equal to amaterasu.

No A was storing up chakra and used a body flicker.. that doesn't mean his speed is greater than it.. If it was he wouldn't need the body flicker he could just run out the way..

Just like Minato needed ftg to doge A, A needed the body flicker and his heightened senses to dodge Amaterasu

I've already covered, that dodging a bullet, or a car does not in any way make you as fast or a bullet or a car

Here's my final note. IF Minato is looking at the Uchiha, and sees the blood which comes before Amaterasu, he dodges it. I don't know about the air pressure thing, but I do not believe you have to be a sensor to feel that, you just have to be very in tune with your surrounding environment, and I believe Minato would be able to feel it (figured out how many enemies by just touching the ground). A change in air pressure GUARANTEES a fire ninjutsu, because of the combustion of oxygen (that's why the pressure changes). So he will KNOW FOR A FACT that there is a fire ninjutsu coming his way, and in that split second, he would be able to dodge it, because as I mentioned earlier, he has reflexes faster than even a sharingan can focus, and so he would get out before getting hit. I have proven the latter. So basically, if you look at it that way, he CAN escape amatersu, because he has the means to realize that it is coming (blood, air pressure), the reflexes to know to avoid it, and the speed to avoid it.

See? now we're just going off of plain speculation.. So far only 2 sensors have ever picked up on this.. sasuke, danzo, noone has noticed this.. what makes you think Minato will? Having 1 sensor ability to touch the ground and know where others are (which tobirama had) doesn't make you a sensor...

Minato would be able to dodge it via the eye bleeding thing IF HE KNEW WHAT IT WAS, and what the eye bleeding meant... He would know to start dodging immediately.. But he doesn't..

If sasuke was fighting itachi back then, and itachi truly wanted to kill him, Sasuke wouldn't have started running once itachi's eyes bled....he starting running when he realized itachi was shooting black flames out his eyes

(blood, air pressure

As I said, you are listing things that would help a ninja who KNOWS about the jutsu and is a sensor...Jiraya was around the corner when amaterasu was used, felt nothing like that.. he just came and saw a hole of black flames in the wall...

 

[BloodSeed]

Here's my final note. IF Minato is looking at the Uchiha, and sees the blood which comes before Amaterasu, he dodges it. I don't know about the air pressure thing, but I do not believe you have to be a sensor to feel that, you just have to be very in tune with your surrounding environment, and I believe Minato would be able to feel it (figured out how many enemies by just touching the ground). A change in air pressure GUARANTEES a fire ninjutsu, because of the combustion of oxygen (that's why the pressure changes). So he will KNOW FOR A FACT that there is a fire ninjutsu coming his way, and in that split second, he would be able to dodge it, because as I mentioned earlier, he has reflexes faster than even a sharingan can focus, and so he would get out before getting hit. I have proven the latter. So basically, if you look at it that way, he CAN escape amatersu, because he has the means to realize that it is coming (blood, air pressure), the reflexes to know to avoid it, and the speed to avoid it.

+uchiha are know for their fire attributes

 

[BloodSeed]

Lol I thought this thread was gonna die away, who revived it?

i dont want this thread die coz its hilarious coz now he have amaterasu the faster attack than A's fastest attack :rofl:

 

[TrollingSage]

No A was storing up chakra and used a body flicker.. that doesn't mean his speed is greater than it.. If it was he wouldn't need the body flicker he could just run out the way..

Just like Minato needed ftg to doge A, A needed the body flicker and his heightened senses to dodge Amaterasu

I've already covered, that dodging a bullet, or a car does not in any way make you as fast or a bullet or a car

True but not entirely. First of all I dont think there's a human on earth who'll be able to dodge a bullet unless ofc the person is able to see the trigger being pulled and starts dodging at that moment.
And as for dodging a car, you'd have to be faster than the car provided the distance you'd have to travel to get to safety is equal or greater than the distance the car has to travel to reach you. In other words to dodge a car, you'll have to faster than the car or further away from it.
Now back to the topic at hand, as far as am concerned, shunshin is high speed movement, meaning the Raikage still had to move. Now dodging an attack and reacting to it are 2 different things. For example, when Sasuke fired susanoo arrows at Danzo and Kakashi, none of them had the speed dodge the attack, yet they had the reaction time to counter it with a jutsu.
Now the question is does Minato have the reaction time to evade amaterasu?
This scan suggests so.

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Note that Minato was unaware of Raikage's attack until that final moment in the scan. If he has the reaction time to dodge that attack in that instant, amaterasu shouldnt be a problem.

 

[Owarij]

True but not entirely. First of all I dont think there's a human on earth who'll be able to dodge a bullet unless ofc the person is able to see the trigger being pulled and starts dodging at that moment.
And as for dodging a car, you'd have to be faster than the car provided the distance you'd have to travel to get to safety is equal or greater than the distance the car has to travel to reach you. In other words to dodge a car, you'll have to faster than the car or further away from it.
Now back to the topic at hand, as far as am concerned, shunshin is high speed movement, meaning the Raikage still had to move. Now dodging an attack and reacting to it are 2 different things. For example, when Sasuke fired susanoo arrows at Danzo and Kakashi, none of them had the speed dodge the attack, yet they had the reaction time to counter it with a jutsu.
Now the question is does Minato have the reaction time to evade amaterasu?
This scan suggests so.

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Note that Minato was unaware of Raikage's attack until that final moment in the scan. If he has the reaction time to dodge that attack in that instant, amaterasu shouldnt be a problem.

All that scan suggests is that Minato has Just enough reflexes to doge V2....as i said A cannot outrun amaterasu.. that's madness..

Doding a car, even if it's close is a matter of reflexes and speed... Dodging a car going 140 mph does not mean you can move at 150 mph.. that's a ludicrous statement...

Dodging has to do with reflexes... Minato can indeed dodge V2, but things faster than v2 , (amaterasu) is where he runs into problems..

Even with v2 , minato comes ridiculously close to getting hit...

 

[allWILLknowPAIN]

stop posting if your not happy with the thread we wont miss you


minato dodge v1 not v2 and A would have won that fight if killerbee wasit there v2 lighting armor is more faster than and minato thought ftg everybdy reflexes are faster then there running speed that why minato used ftg instead of moving out the way you type pure garbage

no stop making stupid threads that are so dumb all the facts say he can dodge it i dont even know how u can question it rakage even said he is the fastes NOW THAT THE FOURTH IS DEAD so the fourth was faster and quit with you idiotic " A would have won that fight" that is strait retarded its your own opinion go re read the manga yellow flash is fast not just ftg like when he saves naruto the first time that is his movemenet not ftg and it was that fast even tobi said how fast it was so really go choke on some d!ck

 

[Ngylle]

he will hit him.
as far as i remember when itachi trew it at sasuke, if itachi wanted sasuke dead he would just trow it at the moment. itachi was teaching sasuke, the point is not kill him.