minato cant dodge amaterasu

[Owarij]

Thus far these things should be obvious

Dodging something does not make you faster than it.
If you think that when someone dodges a car, they are faster than said car, you are an idiot and I wish you pain and heartache in life.

2)Dodging an attack doesn't mean you have their reflexes...Since incoming attacks have little to do with the reflexes of the attacker, and more to do with the reflexes of the defender..

 

[ANBU Kakashi23]

what comes into question is whether minato has the mental reflexes capable of defensively using ftg against amaterasu

but saying minato dodged v2 speed does not equate to minato's reflexes being superior to v2 reflexes, thats not a valid argument

amaterasu is pretty close to instantaneous , spawning on the user, theres no travel time, it manifests on the target, even raikage in v2 has to physically move toward his target, that motion, that instant before raikage landed a blow is where minatos reflexes kicked in and allowed him to evade v2, amaterasu is a technique that spawns on you, the window for evasion is exponentially smaller because its an attack that once activated is on you with no trail of motion to anticipate(assuming you have no knowledge of ms and amaterasu like raikage)

and early post by lol99 discussed the extremely small window between amaterasu's manifestation and the technique engulfing the point of focus, that window is what raikage exploited with his v2 reflexes

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that window is what should be in question, whether minato has the mental reflexes to react within that window will determine if he can dodge amaterasu

i personally think he does, but there is no evidence of him reacting to a technique as fast acting as amaterasu in the manga so my opinion is unsubstantiated and i acknowledge that

 

[Owarij]

I stand corrected, you are right, speed and reflex are two different things. If you are able to dodge a punch doesn't mean that you are faster then the person throwing the punch, just means that you have good reflexes. Just took me awhile to figure that out. I had to google it. My science is a bit rusty. :shrug:

THERE IS A GOD someone fking understands , I Thought all hope was lost for Nb , honestly

 

[Fearmonger]

STFU We're not talking about Space time ninjutsu dude.....WTF are you talkin about??:flaw::flaw:

How about you learn to read the damn post before you start posting and replying...:scorps:

Okay maybe thats not what you're talking about but that last sentence was about Minato's FTG. So I hope you don't mind backing off while I talk about what's relevant. Is that okay little boy?

THERE IS A GOD someone fking understands , I Thought all hope was lost for Nb , honestly

I understood you, I just didn't say anything because I was having my own seperate conversation...

 

[MangekyouJ]

I updated my post

and are you people fking serious?

if you are able to dodge a bullet you are faster than it?

WTF?

The same thing applies here guy.....

If Minato is able to dodge a bullet(v2 Raikage), then Minato is faster than he.

 

[iMicLykTyson]

again here is another example. When minato and raikage has their little face off. Minato move behind bee but bee was able to respond to minato even though his body counld not keep up with minato's speed this is the reasoning behind reflexes.

Reflexes
adjective
1.
Physiology . noting or pertaining to an involuntary response to a stimulus, the nerve impulse from a receptor being transmitted inward to a nerve center that in turn transmits it outward to an effector.
2.
occurring in reaction; responsive.
to respond. this does not mean you have to be faster.
because of his reflexes if minato has actually intended on killing bee they would both be dead by now. Bee would have killed him because of his reflexes.
SPEED AND REFLEXES ARE NOT THE SAME THING

 

[iMicLykTyson]

I stand corrected, you are right, speed and reflex are two different things. If you are able to dodge a punch doesn't mean that you are faster then the person throwing the punch, just means that you have good reflexes. Just took me awhile to figure that out. I had to google it. My science is a bit rusty. :shrug:

least you understand lol

 

[Owarij]

but saying minato dodged v2 speed does not equate to minato's reflexes being superior to v2 reflexes, thats not a valid argument

More people are understanding

my god, this is a miracle..

Honestly though..I came in this thread, just like everyone else and commented" Minato dodges this easily"

but then I Read what Ispeak said.. And I realized dodging something isn't only about speed...

If you have bad reflexes and good speed you can't dodge a speeding car..

While someone with good reflexes and ok speed can dodge the SAME car.....

When it comes down to dodging, speed plays a part but it isn't the whole picture.... You have to look at the ninjas ability to react to the given situation and respond appropriately..

 

[ReapTermin]

I stand corrected, you are right, speed and reflex are two different things. If you are able to dodge a punch doesn't mean that you are faster then the person throwing the punch, just means that you have good reflexes. Just took me awhile to figure that out. I had to google it. My science is a bit rusty. :shrug:

It's all about distance and how fast the thing you are trying to avoid is traveling. If the person is 10 feet away from you, then you can dodge it, but if the punch is right there like 1 inch away from you... then you must move faster than the punch that was thrown.

You guys... it's all about the distance. If a car is 1000 ft away from you... you don't have to be faster than it to be able to dodge it, but if the car is right there 1/2 of a foot away from you... you must be faster than it to be able to dodge it.

This is why reflex and speed must work together.

 

[iMicLykTyson]

ima hit the sheets now

 

[Owarij]

The same thing applies here guy.....

If Minato is able to dodge a bullet(v2 Raikage), then Minato is faster than he.

Dude, please understand that DODGING a bullet, IN NO WAY makes you FASTER than the bullet...

If you were to run in a straight line, And i shoot you , GOOD LUCK out running a bullet...

Same with the car.. Same with amaterasu...

A was storing chakra up and used a body flicker to avoid it.... If a runs in a straight line can he avoid amaterasu? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO5

You guys... it's all about the distance. If a car is 1000 ft away from you... you don't have to be faster than it to be able to dodge it, but if the car is right there 1/2 of a foot away from you... you must be faster than it to be able to dodge it.

This is why reflex and speed must work together.

Wrong once again..

Distance plays apart in how much time you have to react to the given thing...
A bullet at point blank range offers NO time for reflexes or response... You JUST DIE..
You can be the fastest man in the world, But at point blank range you are not dodging the bullet....

The further the distance, the more time you have for your body to send signal and react..
Thus a bullet from far can be dodged if you have good enough reflexes... Once again the role of speed in dodging comes second to the ability to react to what happened first..

We are talking about dodging a bullet once the trigger has already been pulled

Give a human the ability to use ftg, and put a man with a gun at point blank range ,

he has the ability to move faster than the speed of light itself, But can he activate it before his brains are blown away? No he can't ..... i'll repeat.. Speed is NOT the entire delineation , you need to add all the factors together to find out if someone is capable of dodging something

 

[iMicLykTyson]

It's all about distance and how fast the thing you are trying to avoid is traveling. If the person is 10 feet away from you, then you can dodge it, but if the punch is right there like 1 inch away from you... then you must move faster than the punch that was thrown.

You guys... it's all about the distance. If a car is 1000 ft away from you... you don't have to be faster than it to be able to dodge it, but if the car is right there 1/2 of a foot away from you... you must be faster than it to be able to dodge it.

This is why reflex and speed must work together.

refer to post 637 plz

 

[sWAy253]

THERE IS A GOD someone fking understands , I Thought all hope was lost for Nb , honestly

hahahahahahahahaha!!!! xd

 

[EdoMadara]

I updated my post

and are you people fking serious?

if you are able to dodge a bullet you are faster than it?

WTF?

its ur opinion. U bring real life things. In real life avoiding a direct bullet shot seems impossible, and in condition u are able to dodge it doesnt mean ure faster than the bullet. For something travel so fast we can react we call it luckily predict its path. So were luckily avoid its path thus called dodging a bullet. But in narutoverse .. All things apply differently in many ways. A high tier shinobi eyes could see almost bullet speed strike. If someone reflexes a kunai and dodges it means his body moves faster than the kunai. Please dont bring the bullet it travel so fast. Real life physics doesnt always apply in naruto. Naruto can walk on the water by adding chakra on his feet. Tell me what physics used there? For something that travels so fast human cant react such as light and bullet it called luckily predict became luckily dodging. Im done.

 

[lol99]

Thus far these things should be obvious

Dodging something does not make you faster than it.
If you think that when someone dodges a car, they are faster than said car, you are an idiot and I wish you pain and heartache in life.

2)Dodging an attack doesn't mean you have their reflexes...Since incoming attacks have little to do with the reflexes of the attacker, and more to do with the reflexes of the defender..

raikage depends on his reflexes to both realise amaterasu flames are appearing on his body and to both get away

his brain has to order his muscles to move and even then his speed<<<<<FTG

thats why he just barely dodged it

and i have said it many times and will again say it that distance is not an issue for amaterasu as long as the eye can see the target

 

[Bogard]

This pic shows clearly who has better reflexes. Being able to avoid an attack that almost touch his nose show that his reflexes were too high that he could even avoid his punch almost "when" he wanted. Especially when you see that he even had time to put a kunai on Raikage without he even knew

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[Fearmonger]

raikage depends on his reflexes to both realise amaterasu flames are appearing on his body and to both get away

his brain has to order his muscles to move and even then his speed<<<<<FTG

thats why he just barely dodged it

and i have said it many times and will again say it that distance is not an issue for amaterasu as long as the eye can see the target

Dude,Minato's btain has to order his muscles to throw the kunai so what are you getting at?

 

[lol99]

Dude,Minato's btain has to order his muscles to throw the kunai so what are you getting at?

:sy:

you are assuming minato hasn't placed his kunai, he starts his fight with kunais

and amaterasu too requires prep time -_____-

and whats with this shit that minato doesn't know about amaterasu

danzo recognised sasukes susanoo and raikage too had never before seen amaterasu, he said is it the mangekyou sharingan? meaning he had simply heard of mangekyou sharingan

 

[sWAy253]

It's all about distance and how fast the thing you are trying to avoid is traveling. If the person is 10 feet away from you, then you can dodge it, but if the punch is right there like 1 inch away from you... then you must move faster than the punch that was thrown.

You guys... it's all about the distance. If a car is 1000 ft away from you... you don't have to be faster than it to be able to dodge it, but if the car is right there 1/2 of a foot away from you... you must be faster than it to be able to dodge it.

This is why reflex and speed must work together.

I do agree on that reflex and speed do have to work together, that doesn't mean you are faster then the car, just means your reflexes are really good and that you had the speed to work with your reflexes to dodge the car in the first place. Because obviously your not faster then the car, unless you a have super human speed to out run it.

 

[Owarij]

This pic shows clearly who has better reflexes. Being able to avoid an attack that almost touch his nose show that his reflexes were too high that he could even avoid his punch almost "when" he wanted. Especially when you see that he even had time to put a kunai on Raikage without he even knew

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That pic shows Minato's reflexes..

NOTHING IN THAT PIC displays Raikages reflexes..

after the punch was thrown, raiakge's reflexes were not in play.. the one dodging the attack would have to rely on their reflexes...

Reflexes are a defence mechanism for the body...With minato's reflexes he can just barely dodge V2 strike..

however Minato's reflexes are only comparable to that of BASE raikage...
In v2 raikage is own a whole other level according to shee...
And even with enhanced reflexes he was inches away from getting hit with amaterasu...

How could a man with base raiakge reflexes. dodge something that Raikage needed V2 reflexes for? especially when he doesn;t even know the jtusu exists

raikage depends on his reflexes to both realise amaterasu flames are appearing on his body and to both get away

his brain has to order his muscles to move and even then his speed<<<<<FTG

thats why he just barely dodged it

and i have said it many times and will again say it that distance is not an issue for amaterasu as long as the eye can see the target

And just like Raikage

, Minato has to first realize amaterasu is near him etc (WITH LOWER REFLEXES THAN RAIKAGE), Then his brain has to send signals for him to activate ftg (With lower brain activity rates than raikage)

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and after all of that, this is how close raikage came to being amaterasu'd ..It's literally almost right on him..

Minato isn't dodging it.. not with lower reaction times etc