minato cant dodge amaterasu

[ANBU Kakashi23]

To use FTG properly you need very fast reflexes, which Minato has. But not enough to react in time to Amaterasu. V2 Raikage has the fastest reaction time (im not sure about Naruto) which is why he was able to dodge it. His reflexes are inhuman... near enough instant... you cant possibly have reflexes that fast without some type of body enhancement.
Im not saying Minato doesn't have other counters though... people have argued he can teleport without the Amaterasu and stuff. I wont get into that.. but from what we know, logically Minato doesn't fit the full criteria of dodging Amaterasu. Minato might have another counter for it which Kishi has not yet revealed. But we don't know as of now.

i can accept this for now, just because we dont have a manga example of minato reacting to a jutsu as fast acting as amaterasu so i really only think the way i do because its my opinion about his reflexes and mental capacity, i have no substantiation to make a stronger claim in that regard

but +rep for you for sticking with this so long

i dont have nearly enough patience for that

 

[Owarij]

Blaze Release is just the ability to control Amaterasu. Show me the difference between Amaterasu and Blaze release. I need proof saying that the speed is vastly different.




The one who doesn't get it is you. Tell me why Gaara was able to block it. Please explain that one. You are so inclined on Raikage V2, Raikage V2, but you never tell me why Gaara was able to block it with his slow sand.

ENTON ISN'T AMATERASU..


your argument is already wrong....Sasuke never said "I can't believe , i had to defend with amaterasu"


Sasuke CASTS amaterasu with one eye, and MANIPULATES it with the other.. He manipulated the enton most likely on his susanno already, and tossed them at his sand...
It's not the same speed as amaterasu which materializes it..

.. then I would agree with you. Until then... STFU

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Utterly pure ignorance if you don't know the difference between the two

 

[iMicLykTyson]

Blaze Release is just the ability to control Amaterasu. Show me the difference between Amaterasu and Blaze release. I need proof saying that the speed is vastly different.




The one who doesn't get it is you. Tell me why Gaara was able to block it. Please explain that one. You are so inclined on Raikage V2, Raikage V2, but you never tell me why Gaara was able to block it with his slow sand. You and iSpeak have been avoiding this from the beginning... tell me why in the fck Gaara was able block it with his slow sand... then I would agree with you. Until then... STFU.

well it may be because gaara's defense activates automatically regardless. i mean there was an episode when gaara intentionally tries to stab himself but the sand reacted on it's own and gaurds him. But still i don't think gaara's sand reacts as fast as raikage V2

 

[ReapTermin]

ENTON ISN'T AMATERASU..


your argument is already wrong....Sasuke never said "I can't believe , i had to defend with amaterasu"


Sasuke CASTS amaterasu with one eye, and MANIPULATES it with the other.. He manipulated the enton most likely on his susanno already, and tossed them at his sand...
It's not the same speed as amaterasu which materializes it..

Blaze Release is Sasuke's ability to control Amaterasu. Blaze Release is not a new form of Amaterasu.

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Blaze Release is nothing but the ability to manipulate Amaterasu.

Blaze Release (炎遁, Enton; Viz "Inferno Style") is an advanced chakra nature. Sasuke Uchiha uses this technique when manipulating the unquenchable black flames of Amaterasu. C states that Sasuke manipulates the flames with his right Mangekyō Sharingan whereas he casts Amaterasu with his left.[1] It is unknown what elements this nature entails.

well it may be because gaara's defense activates automatically regardless. i mean there was an episode when gaara intentionally tries to stab himself but the sand reacted on it's own and gaurds him. But still i don't think gaara's sand reacts as fast as raikage V2

But Gaara's sand is not as fast as Raikage V2.

 

[Owarij]

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I Don't know why i have to go get manga scans to prove something so OBVIOUS

ENTON%^

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AMATERASU ^

Do you clearly see the difference in speed between the two?

Blaze Release is Sasuke's ability to control Amaterasu. Blaze Release is not a new form of Amaterasu.

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Blaze Release is nothing but the ability to manipulate Amaterasu.

Blaze Release (炎遁, Enton; Viz "Inferno Style") is an advanced chakra nature. Sasuke Uchiha uses this technique when manipulating the unquenchable black flames of Amaterasu. C states that Sasuke manipulates the flames with his right Mangekyō Sharingan whereas he casts Amaterasu with his left.[1] It is unknown what elements this nature entails.




But Gaara's sand is not as fast as Raikage V2.

YOU ARE POSTING EXACTLY what i'm saying.. they are NOT the same... One is manipulating already existing flames.. The other is ACTUALLY CASTING and materializing the flames...Thus there is no focusing on the user and materialization etc...

 

[EdoMadara]

enton controls the existing amaterasu, thats how gaaras sand could block it. Because it only throwed amaterasu, not casted. So the speed must be slower as hell. But i still think minato is able to dodge amaterasu. Man he has the best reflexes.. Amaterasu or v2 strike .. Which is faster.. So by your logic naruto would get caught by amaterasu easily.. When naruto was able to dodge v2 fastest strike when it almost hit him, he react when it nearly on his eyesight. Same scenario to minato. I got it naruto got beaten by amaterasu . Because amaterasu burn chakra, kyubi chakra cloak will do nothing..
LOL when it stated that amaterasu is faster than susanoo arrow?

 

[ReapTermin]

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I Don't know why i have to go get manga scans to prove something so OBVIOUS

ENTON%^

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AMATERASU ^

Do you clearly see the difference in speed between the two?





YOU ARE POSTING EXACTLY what i'm saying.. they are NOT the same... One is manipulating already existing flames.. The other is ACTUALLY CASTING and materializing the flames...Thus there is no focusing on the user and materialization etc...

Sorry bro. I needed to troll a little today. I know Blaze Release. I just got bored and started trolling to make others angry.

 

[Owarij]

enton controls the existing amaterasu, thats how gaaras sand could block it. Because it only throwed amaterasu, not casted. So the speed must be slower as hell. But i still think minato is able to dodge amaterasu. Man he has the best reflexes.. Amaterasu or v2 strike .. Which is faster.. So by your logic naruto would get caught by amaterasu easily.. When naruto was able to dodge v2 fastest strike when it almost hit him, he react when it nearly on his eyesight. Same scenario to minato. I got it naruto got beaten by amaterasu . Because amaterasu burn chakra, kyubi chakra cloak will do nothing..
LOL when it stated that amaterasu is faster than susanoo arrow?

Naruto can sense danger..
That;s the best reflexes and reaction time ANY ninja can have... he knows to start moving before itachi probably even starts using amaterasu....

it's obvious amaterasu is faster....

Kakashi can't kamui amaterasu mid air, MADNESS

almost every scan in the manga amaterasu has taken 1 panel and or instantly appears on the person....

 

[lol99]

God. FTG>>>>>Raikages speed

The reason raikage got almost hit is this

Minato reacted when A punch was just about to hit him, so he can react when amaterasu flames converge on his body, rest FTG takes care.

How difficult is it to understand. -_-

 

[ReapTermin]

I've been Trolling on this page a lot people. I analogize. But... yeah... Minato can dodge Amaterasu.

 

[Owarij]

God. FTG>>>>>Raikages speed

The reason raikage got almost hit is this

Minato reacted when A punch was just about to hit him, so he can react when amaterasu flames converge on his body, rest FTG takes care.

How difficult is it to understand. -_-

How difficult is it to understand that Amaterasu is faster than A?

your logic would ONLY work if amaterasu and Raikage v2 were THE SAME SPEED..

they ARE NOT ....get this through your head...Raikage needed v2 and a shunshin to just getout of the way BARELY..

Minato's reflexes are comparable to that of BASE raikage.... according to shee

He can't dodge amaterasu if that's the case...since his reflexes won't permit it... just like Raikage couldn;t dodge it untill it was almost on him

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and raikage has BETTER reflexes than him... over two versions of increased reflexes


Yes minato is faster than him... But speed isn't all that's needed to dodge a bullet... If you can't react in time , you get hit... SIMPLE.... With v2 reflexes Raikage was barely able to react in time and get away..


With base raikage reflexes.. Once again.. He can't activate it in time

 

[lol99]

Has it ever crossed your head that the reason raikage just barely dodged amaterasu was his speed? His speed is already very inferior than FTG.
Minato has already been able to react to things that happen fast. Don't know why you keep comparing A and amatersu. A runs around while amaterasu appears directly on target.

It takes time to stick to a target which is enough for minato with FTG to get away

 

[EdoMadara]

disagree. Naruto stunned for a milisec like minato did yet he still able to dodge with his sunshin. Yes he has sense of danger.. But on that panel when naruto vs raikage, he wasnt prepare for that. Thats why it called instantenous reflexes *how to spell it*
it just like someone aiming u with his gun, u sense it.. But it already released and its too late even when ure already realized.. The projectiles almost hit u and u saw it came nearly on ur face *shinobi world make it sense* and by milisec mindblowing rush u able to dodge it. Because you are able to reflex and activate ur fastest move. The ability to reflex in milisec thats what minato possess thats why raikage compare naruto to minato.

 

[sWAy253]

Actually, Amaterasu is only as fast as the eye can focus. Doesn't that make sense? It appears on whatever surface the eye can focus on, so it is dependent upon that factor. If V2 is faster than even a sharingan can focus on, then Minato, who managed to see V2, process the threat, and then evade it all at a speed clearly faster than a sharingan (or at least Sasuke's), then he should be able to do the same for Amaterasu, because Minato can process a threat more quickly than a Sharingan can fully focus (or at least Sasuke's, because that's the only example we really have).

I actually think your quote makes the most sense. No one has yet to comment on it. I belive your right when you say that it appears on whatever the eye can focus on. If that is the case then how can you focus on something you can't see if it is moving so fast?

 

[Owarij]

Has it ever crossed your head that the reason raikage just barely dodged amaterasu was his speed? His speed is already very inferior than FTG.
Minato has already been able to react to things that happen fast. Don't know why you keep comparing A and amatersu. A runs around while amaterasu appears directly on target.

It takes time to stick to a target which is enough for minato with FTG to get away

He was already storing chakra up for a shunshin the moment mangekyou came on.. shee and karin said that....

HE was only able to activate the shunshin at that specific time, and that's when he got away...

You keep stating minato has reacted to things fast

but he has NEVER reacted to something as fast as amaterasu....

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This is Minato's reaction time to v2 attack, when he didn't know what to expect..

When he saw it once already

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This is his reaction time.. Notice they both are relatively close..


Understand that Minato can just barely escape A'S v2 atack.. a few inches at most is their distance between the time A hits him and he activates ftg...


Amaterasu > V2 a speed....A can't out run an amaterasu... neither can Mianto...

Not only that but as I said before lack of knowledge on Amaterasu on the whole will be an important factor as well


You keep stating, Minato has this , Minato has that...
No he doesn't ..... that goes against what was said in the manga.. it goes against what we've seen in the manga..

Minato has enough reflexes to doge A v2..

Av2 has enough reflexes to doge Amaterasu...

Amaterasu is faster than Av2

Minato cannot dodge Amaterasu since his reflexes are only good enough to dodge up to AV2.... and it's not comparable to that of AV2..

 

[ReapTermin]

Has it ever crossed your head that the reason raikage just barely dodged amaterasu was his speed? His speed is already very inferior than FTG.
Minato has already been able to react to things that happen fast. Don't know why you keep comparing A and amatersu. A runs around while amaterasu appears directly on target.

It takes time to stick to a target which is enough for minato with FTG to get away

Don't bother with them. They fail to understand that you need fast enough reflexes to be able to evade Raikage V2. Being able to evade Raikage V2 means that your reflexes are either equal or slightly above Raikage V2. The distance of Raikage V2's punch to Minato and the distance of Amaterasu to Raikage V2 is about the same. You guys keep misinterpreting what Shee said.

Understand this: If Minato's reflexes were not equal to above Raikage V2... then he would have never been able to evade Raikage V2.

Reflex and speed must work together for being able to dodge something. Exp: When Sasuke faced Lee... his Sharingan was able to keep up with Lee, but his body could't. Sasuke didn't have the speed to be able to keep up with Lee.

If your reflexes are slower than that of the person you are trying to evade, then that means that you will never be able to react to that movement. The reason Minato was able to react to Raikage V2 means that his reflexes were slightly above Raikage V2. His reflexes allowed him to be able to see his punch and react to it by using FTG.

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A reflex action, also known as a reflex, is an involuntary and nearly instantaneous movement in response to a stimulus.[1] Some people use the term "reflex" to mean a behavior which is mediated via the reflex arc; this does not apply to casual uses of the term 'reflex'.

In order for a stimulus to be detected with high probability, its level must exceed the absolute threshold.

@Bold means that your reflexes must be faster than the thing you are trying to avoid to be able to avoid it, but you must also have the speed to be able to. That being said... for Minato to have evaded Raikage V2... his reflexes must have been better than his and his speed(FTG).

 

[lol99]

Again amaterasu> A speed. Yet A dodged it. Don't know how to explain

And btw are we taking a characters statement as the ultimate truth.
Then we should probably declare hiruzen as the strongest hokage as it was said by iruka
Actually don't bother answering to it. Just think about it

 

[EdoMadara]

thats why itachi will get burned by sasukes amaterasu if they another battle. Since itachi slower than av2. By your logic amaterasu faster than av2 , av2 sharingan cant keep up, so sharingan will not keep up too for amaterasu since it faster than av2. So amaterasu will hit almost shinobi in narutoverse even itachi who was the original possessor. Sigh.. The fact av2 reflexes the best by what ure said.

 

[ReapTermin]

thats why itachi will get burned by sasukes amaterasu if they another battle. Since itachi slower than av2. By your logic amaterasu faster than av2 , av2 sharingan cant keep up, so sharingan will not keep up too for amaterasu since it faster than av2. So amaterasu will hit almost shinobi in narutoverse even itachi who was the original possessor. Sigh.. The fact av2 reflexes the best by what ure said.

Who are you talking to? You must quote.

 

[EdoMadara]

itachis hand sign faster than amaterasu speed(if thespeed transform into handsigns).. Lol