Sarutobi vs Danzo

[Commander Axe]

Sarutobi wins. I don't think Danzo's KA is as good as Shisui's. When Ao told Mifune what Danzo did to him, he kind of snapped out of it. If Sarutobi summons Enma with him (which he will) then Danzo has to use KA on only one and the other will set him straight.

i'm pretty sure danzo would use it before the match starts.

 

[Q of the Sharingan]

i'm pretty sure danzo would use it before the match starts.

Saru would summon Enma at the beginning.

 

[iSpeak]

Sarutobi wins. I don't think Danzo's KA is as good as Shisui's. When Ao told Mifune what Danzo did to him, he kind of snapped out of it. If Sarutobi summons Enma with him (which he will) then Danzo has to use KA on only one and the other will set him straight.

How would Enma be able to help? Does he have the Byakugan?
The only reason Danzo was spotted is

A: Ao fought with Shisui before, so he recognized the chakra
B: He had the Byakugan

KA effects you in real life which is why it is so hard to notice. It doesn't effect your 5 senses. Anyway, he would have been hit by KA before he can even summon Enma.

 

[Bogard]

Sarutobi will kill him with shurikens U_U

 

[Darksharinnegan]

and the 4th telescope tech with his ability to control shuriken could kill danzo b4 he could think of oppsing surutobi and thats not a once every 10 year tech

 

[Prime Rib]

saru, cause danzo always felt infeior to him always

 

[Kira was Righteous]

If its the same way the sasuke fight went where he saved KA till last then yes but i dont he will underestimate Hiruzen at all.... Prime Hiruzen would win though

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

danzo casts koto amatsukami. hiruzen kills himself by using death god on enma. danzo laughs.

was hailed as the most powerful shinobi to ever live

only because they thought rikudo senin was a legend, and hashirama was exagerrated (according to kabuto they dismissed him as a legend as well). and i cant see how hiruzen could possibly hope to injure third raikage and kazekage. so for now, that hype is baseless.

 

[youralltrolls]

danzo casts koto amatsukami. hiruzen kills himself by using death god on enma. danzo laughs.

only because they thought rikudo senin was a legend, and hashirama was exagerrated (according to kabuto they dismissed him as a legend as well). and i cant see how hiruzen could possibly hope to injure third raikage and kazekage. so for now, that hype is baseless.

Saidame fought at the frontlines in the 2nd shinobi world war along with the third raikage n kazekage, and sandaime was the only one to survive. I think its safe to assume his power was on another level. Even orochimaru stated he was hailed as the god of shinobi. That was his nickname. It was even stated he was the strongest of the 5 kages at his death.

 

[iSpeak]

Saidame fought at the frontlines in the 2nd shinobi world war along with the third raikage n kazekage, and sandaime was the only one to survive. I think its safe to assume his power was on another level. Even orochimaru stated he was hailed as the god of shinobi. That was his nickname. It was even stated he was the strongest of the 5 kages at his death.

Did Orochimaru ever say how he can counter KA? No? Ohwell.

 

[Kratos of cruxis]

People seem not to know how KA works but I say hiruzen wins high diff

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Saidame fought at the frontlines in the 2nd shinobi world war along with the third raikage n kazekage, and sandaime was the only one to survive

kazekage was ambushed by sasori and oro long after the war ended. third raikage fell fighting 10 000 iwa nins for 3 days. if hiruzen faced those odds he WOULD have died in the first day

orochimaru stated he was hailed as the god of shinobi

doesnt mean hes a god. they said the same thing about pain. sasuke was hailed as zabuzas killer. according to kishi himself minato is unrivaled.

It was even stated he was the strongest of the 5 kages at his death.

kabuto said that because of the hokage reputation and because others said it, not that kabuto actually positively believed it

 

[youralltrolls]

Did Orochimaru ever say how he can counter KA? No? Ohwell.

Its too bad he doesn't have a summon like emna. Oh well "shrugs"

(notice the sarcasm and next time try not to act stupid)

 

[youralltrolls]

kazekage was ambushed by sasori and oro long after the war ended. third raikage fell fighting 10 000 iwa nins for 3 days. if hiruzen faced those odds he WOULD have died in the first day

Nice speculation. Glad there isn't any concrete proof that hiruzen would of died the first day.

doesnt mean hes a god. they said the same thing about pain. sasuke was hailed as zabuzas killer. according to kishi himself minato is unrivaled.

You mean pain said the same thing about himself. Being Hailed as a god throughout the ninja world is a feat in itself. Calling yourself a god is different. Where did kishi state minato is unrivaled?

kabuto said that because of the hokage reputation and because others said it, not that kabuto actually positively believed it

Right because people always like to lie to themselves. He was talking to orochimaru he wouldn't be lieing. Name one time kabuto lied to orochimaru.

 

[iSpeak]

Its too bad he doesn't have a summon like emna. Oh well "shrugs"

(notice the sarcasm and next time try not to act stupid)

Act stupid? K

Show me the chapter were it says Enma has the Byakugan please. Ill wait.

The only reasons Danzo got caught whilst using KA is because

A: Ao fought with Shisui before, so he recognized his chakra
B: Ao has the Byakugan

KA is an ultimate Jutsu from Shisui's MS. It works regardless of the 5 senses (which is why i is so hard to tell you are in it, because it is happening in real life). Also, it doesn't require eye contact, just like Izanami.

So tell me again, what can Enma possibly do if neither him nor Hiruzen even know that Danzo has KA, let alone how to counter it.

 

[youralltrolls]

Act stupid? K

Show me the chapter were it says Enma has the Byakugan please. Ill wait.

The only reasons Danzo got caught whilst using KA is because

A: Ao fought with Shisui before, so he recognized his chakra
B: Ao has the Byakugan

KA is an ultimate Jutsu from Shisui's MS. It works regardless of the 5 senses (which is why i is so hard to tell you are in it, because it is happening in real life). Also, it doesn't require eye contact, just like Izanami.

So tell me again, what can Enma possibly do if neither him nor Hiruzen even know that Danzo has KA, let alone how to counter it.

KA is a genjutsu of the highest calibre. If emna notices hiruzen is acting weird(attacking emna, giving up ect ect) he would just use that one hand sign and release him from it. Any genjutsu is nullified when a foreign chakra disrupts the chakra the flow.

 

[iSpeak]

KA is a genjutsu of the highest calibre. If emna notices hiruzen is acting weird(attacking emna, giving up ect ect) he would just use that one hand sign and release him from it. Any genjutsu is nullified when a foreign chakra disrupts the chakra the flow.

Are you serious? KA happens in the real world... Enma and Hiruzen have no way of knowing that he is under gejutsu. So he wouldn't randomly release him if there are no signs of him being in a genjutsu. Especially if Danzo keeps is eye covered. Even if he somehow does find out, Danzo would have commanded to Hiruzen to kill himself long before any of them realise. As a matter of fact, he would have done it long before Enma is even summoned.
Also, Danzo can mark Enma with his Juinjutsu. And since Enma hasn't shown any technique with a strong enough chakra release such as Susanoo to get him out, there is nothing he can do.

 

[youralltrolls]

Are you serious? KA happens in the real world... Enma and Hiruzen have no way of knowing that he is under gejutsu. So he wouldn't randomly release him if there are no signs of him being in a genjutsu. Especially if Danzo keeps is eye covered. Even if he somehow does find out, Danzo would have commanded to Hiruzen to kill himself long before any of them realise. As a matter of fact, he would have done it long before Enma is even summoned.
Also, Danzo can mark Enma with his Juinjutsu. And since Enma hasn't shown any technique with a strong enough chakra release to get him out, there is nothing he can do.

So now were just speculating? Well if that's the case, hiruzen created a shadow clone that danzo used KA on and it was completely wasted.

 

[iSpeak]

So now were just speculating? Well if that's the case, hiruzen created a shadow clone that danzo used KA on and it was completely wasted.

I am speculating... what are you talking about?
Hiruzen create a shadow clone at the start of a battle... in front of Danzo's eyes... and Danzo will fall for it? Are you eve serious?
Why would he even make a clone at the beginning of that battle? He doesn't even know about Izanagi and probably doesn't know about KA... let alone knowing that Danzo has both.

 

[youralltrolls]

I am speculating... what are you talking about?
Hiruzen create a shadow clone at the start of a battle... in front of Danzo's eyes... and Danzo will fall for it? Are you eve serious?
Why would he even make a clone at the beginning of that battle? He doesn't even know about Izanagi and probably doesn't know about KA... let alone knowing that Danzo has both.

You think the hokage for decades didn't know danzo had the sharingans or any experimentation done? Where does it say that? Also hiruzen can throw smoke bombs down create the clone and hide. Not even the rinnegan can see through smoke bombs and its the final evolution of the sharingan.