[Spoilers] Izanami is Absolutely Useless in Combat

[siyo]

Yes it's part of his arsenal, but Kishi prevented him from using it in an actual fight (battle to the death), Itachi said it can't really be used in an actual fight, who made him say that? Kishi, and the manga belongs to who? Kishi again, you can't defy him lol, it's his manga, if he says Izanami can't be used in an actual fight, then it can't be used in an actual fight.

True, the point of it all is nobody would attempt it in battle, unless of course you're an immortal and have a EMS-wielding beast next to you....

 

[siyo]

oro is obsessed with the sage power(mainly uchiha) and madara obsessed with hashirama power xd, and itachi stated that izanami is created with the sole purposes to accept your own self and destiny

Well i agree with what you're saying so plus reps. But its not THAT limited. From what we know of his arrogant character, it actually would work on Madara since he's not exactly the type to accept his destiny. Similarly a few other characters that are arrogant would be vulnerable, possibly the 4th Raikage, maybe even Naruto since he's thick and not giving up might work against him here.
But it won't work on Jiraiya, Minato, Daruii or Kakashi etc.

True.You two bring up some good points , but what exactly is Madara's destiny? Are all people good ? Can't the evil people be comfortable with themselves and understand who they really are without having some sob story?

 

[kibaclaw]

Izanami is Hella gay. So some dude uses izanagi and then another dude is like "u cheater" and wastes his own eye to teach him a lesson. Retarded.

 

[NarutoKage2]

True.You two bring up some good points , but what exactly is Madara's destiny? Are all people good ? Can't the evil people be comfortable with themeselves and understand who they really are without haveing some sob story?

Its about arrogance, not good or evil. Someone who's arrogant will never resign themselves to their fate and would always remain trapped due to their denial of destiny.

Madara's destiny is not what he thinks it is, i.e to rule over everyone by using the infinite tsukuyomi and crush any opponents. By stretching himself beyond his limits, he would dig hisgrave with Izanami.

 

[psukkar]

Izanami is Hella gay. So some dude uses izanagi and then another dude is like "u cheater" and wastes his own eye to teach him a lesson. Retarded.

they both lose an eye, both uchihas are retards.

 

[spike00spiegel]

Kishi sad that you can't use in combat because is a stupid move, all that talk with loops and destiny is shit, what would stop sasuke to chop kabuto now?

Of course not right know when they don't want to kill but if they were kabuto could have been now burned with Amaterasu, or absorbed in itachi susano's sord. I tought you were smarted that buying in destiny stuff.

 

[siyo]

Its about arrogance, not good or evil. Someone who's arrogant will never resign themselves to their fate and would always remain trapped due to their denial of destiny.

Madara's destiny is not what he thinks it is, i.e to rule over everyone by using the infinite tsukuyomi and crush any opponents. By stretching himself beyond his limits, he would dig hisgrave with Izanami.

True if he were to be caught, regardless of what his destiny really is, he really would struggle due to his arrogance.

However, it would still be a giant risk to attempt such a thing on such a powerful foe - for several reasons.

 

[blazekev90]

madara,danzo,tobi,orochimaru right ?
without MS itachi can still handle some high jounin, like asuma,kurenai,aoba,genma, and some akatsuki member like hidan and young deidara

It working on Oro is debatable. As Oro is pure evil, the ONLY it would work is if he can't admit to being defeated, but even he already admitted that once before. In fact, I think it wouldn't have any effect on Oro, as he really wanted to understand the way of the world and thus being done thru learning jutsu. Oro could careless about anything else.

 

[yuan of cruxis]

Nah its perfect for making your opponent useless

After all it puts you in a loop until you chosen the destiny Itachi has decided for you

There no known way around it
If there was it would probaly be Izanagi

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

It working on Oro is debatable. As Oro is pure evil, the ONLY it would work is if he can't admit to being defeated, but even he already admitted that once before. In fact, I think it wouldn't have any effect on Oro, as he really wanted to understand the way of the world and thus being done thru learning jutsu. Oro could careless about anything else.

yeah through learning jutsu and stealing someone bodies, he's supposed to be dead long ago but refuse to accept his destiny by undergo that reincarnation jutsu

 

[Anub]

Yes it's part of his arsenal, but Kishi prevented him from using it in an actual fight (battle to the death), Itachi said it can't really be used in an actual fight, who made him say that? Kishi, and the manga belongs to who? Kishi again, you can't defy him lol, it's his manga, if he says Izanami can't be used in an actual fight, then it can't be used in an actual fight.

Yes Itachi said that. However, Itachi said many things. You can argue that it's either Kishi's voice there which is omniscient, or it is just another character's voice. Kabuto was bragging he was unbeatable. You could have argued that Kishi said that, but in fact it was just a biased opinion of one character. Be sure to make the difference. Also remember that things might even change throughout the story! Kishi was the one who said that Hiruzen in his prime was the strongest hokage, but now apparently Hashirama is the strongest shinobi... so don't be so quick to jump on a line in the manga.

 

[GUCC1GU1LTY]

I think once edo is stoped that just like in the fight sauke vs itachi that once itachi dies he thumps sasukes head and he will transfer izanami just like he transfered amateratsu to sasuke and this should prove that naruto and sasuke wil fight tobi together & prevent tobi from using izanagi which ending in tobi defeat

but its gunna suckn if sasuke looses an eye so i hope not

 

[blazekev90]

yeah through learning jutsu and stealing someone bodies, he's supposed to be dead long ago but refuse to accept his destiny by undergo that reincarnation jutsu

"suppose to be dead long ago"....no.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

"suppose to be dead long ago"....no.

what i want to say is oro don't want to accept death, he's afraid of it, people die and yet he don't want to, he want immortality he don't want to accept the fact that he's a human and human is not immortal :noc:

 

[siyo]

It working on Oro is debatable. As Oro is pure evil, the ONLY it would work is if he can't admit to being defeated, but even he already admitted that once before. In fact, I think it wouldn't have any effect on Oro, as he really wanted to understand the way of the world and thus being done thru learning jutsu. Oro could careless about anything else.

I agree with this.

Yes Itachi said that. However, Itachi said many things. You can argue that it's either Kishi's voice there which is omniscient, or it is just another character's voice. Kabuto was bragging he was unbeatable. You could have argued that Kishi said that, but in fact it was just a biased opinion of one character. Be sure to make the difference. Also remember that things might even change throughout the story! Kishi was the one who said that Hiruzen in his prime was the strongest hokage, but now apparently Hashirama is the strongest shinobi... so don't be so quick to jump on a line in the manga.

Where can I read Hashirama is the strongests?

 

[blazekev90]

what i want to say is oro don't want to accept death, he's afraid of it, people die and yet he don't want to, he want immortality he don't want to accept the fact that he's a human and human is not immortal :noc:

Ok, that makes sense but actually how would it work against him? While Humans aren't immortal, he has means the prevent him from dying. This loop would be used until he accepted the fact the he could die? He knows he or anyone could die, but uses his jutsu to prevent it from occuring.

Even if he was to use it, they both would have been standing there forever, Orochi wouldnt sway his ways for anything haha #stubborn

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

Ok, that makes sense but actually how would it work against him? While Humans aren't immortal, he has means the prevent him from dying. This loop would be used until he accepted the fact the he could die? He knows he or anyone could die, but uses his jutsu to prevent it from occuring.

Even if he was to use it, they both would have been standing there forever, Orochi wouldnt sway his ways for anything haha #stubborn

well itachi can still use his "its totsuka time bitch", but well oro can stay in the loop forever, and then again itachi don't need izanami to pawn oro

 

[blazekev90]

well itachi can still use his "its totsuka time bitch", but well oro can stay in the loop forever, and then again itachi don't need izanami to pawn oro

As much as I wanna roast the shyt outta you for that comment, I can't argue against it haha.

Don't go off topic xd lol

 

[siyo]

what i want to say is oro don't want to accept death, he's afraid of it, people die and yet he don't want to, he want immortality he don't want to accept the fact that he's a human and human is not immortal :noc:

Is Orochimaro really afraid to die? He might just be defying it, which is not same thing.It might just be his destiny to be an immortal snake- I mean look at his freakin' face :noc:. You're applying logic from our world and then compare it to a world where people look like sharks etc.

 

[khaydz5]

It would work on Nagato most likely. So there, you can use it in that vs.

lol bitch, pls.

reread manga dude, I know its somewhat confusing but try again.