can kamui warp itachi's yata mirror?

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trying to absorb the yatta mirror could be very dangerous espeacially with itachi being a sharingan user and being able to copy technique it would be very ignorant to give him and actual break down of such a powerful tech
 

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Isn't the shield too big for Kamui?? :shrug:
 

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Isn't the shield too big for Kamui?? :shrug:

I hope it isn't much bigger than that explosion that Kakashi warped away when Deidara did that suicidal explosion against team guy and team kakashi....
 

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trying to absorb the yatta mirror could be very dangerous espeacially with itachi being a sharingan user and being able to copy technique it would be very ignorant to give him and actual break down of such a powerful tech

And since when Sharingan allows the user to copy the KKG's....
 

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i doubt something ethereal can be warped. kamui is used to warp physical objects with mass. Yata's mirror is not something with mass. so imho, no kamui cannot warp it.
 

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I agree that the yata mirror is infact a spiritual weapon which has no form. That means that it cant be sucked into kamui. Also the yata mirror clearly states that Astral forces have no effect against it. I believe kamui cannot suck in the yata mirror. I have a question about the yata mirror which is off topic though. Since the yata mirror has no form and can take up any form does that mean that if some1 were to attack the BACK of susanoo that the yata mirror could extend and protect the back of susanoo? could the yata mirror extend to protect the entire susanoo when needed? If it has no form and can take ANY form than it should be able to do that right? To people who think the TBB can penetrate susanoo you are so very wrong. The yata mirror renders all attacks useless because it changes its identity completely to stop all attacks. Not to mention the databooks say EVEN ATTACKS OF GODS CANNOT PENETRATE THE YATA MIRROR. that is obviously an overstatement lmao. But i dont think any attack can actually affect the yata mirror. It will stop it right in its tracks. The totsuka sword can also doesnt have a form or entity and can take any form or entity. People who say the totsuka sword is slow and easy to dodge are idiots. How can you dodge something that has no form or entity. The totsuka sword can widen and extend as much as the user pleases because they have no form and can take any form. Oh and i read some people saying that using the totsuka sword and yata mirror uses chakra.... lmao. No they dont. They are weapons not justu. Have u seen sasuke lose chakra by using his katana? or orochimaru by extending his kusanagi sword? or hiruzen by extending his staff? The usage of the weapons uses NO CHAKRA. However, the usage of susanoo uses chakra. So technically, he is only paying chakra for how long susanoo is up and not for what the weapons do while susanoo is up. Itachi could very will hold the shield and sword in his hands if he wanted to
 

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Going by the databook this is basically the unstoppable force vs the immoveable object.

This is what kamui says;
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Ill pick out the most important parts. Firstly its an s/t technique. Basically its a form of ninjutsu albeit it doujutsu (eye techniques). Secondly it says and i quote "There is no technique that can compete against this one"

The yata mirror;
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Ill pick out the most important parts. Firstly it has no physical form because its a spiritual weapon, but alot of people get confused by this. It turns from a spiritual weapon with no substance to a material weapon, no different to the totsuka sword which comes from the sake jar. Both are ethereal weapons, but they then turn material when needed. Either to pierce or cut an opponent this is in relation to the totsuka sword or to defend from bombs or attacks, this is in relation to the yata mirror. The question is in its material form can kamui take advantage over this. I dont believe so because it says "in the face of a god power, all attacks, whether from a material or astra body, ninjutsu or physical lose their meaning, Kumai falls under this.

Secondly it goes on to say it alters its properties in accordance with the attributes of the attack, rendering the attack ineffective. One of the way it can do this to kamui is if it goes back to its ethereal (spiritual) state

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Exactly... Both things are basically saying that there is nothing that can stand against it...

One is obviously false....

If we think this out... Will gravity/ black hole, affect a spirit? will it affect a soul? It won't....

Not only that but the databook for kamui also says no defence is possible. yet a ninja with ftg can easily escape it...

dodgeing something is dif then blocking it buddy
 
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i doubt something ethereal can be warped. kamui is used to warp physical objects with mass. Yata's mirror is not something with mass. so imho, no kamui cannot warp it.

the yata mirior has to have mass cause it affects other mass thats how it works the yata mirror has to exsist where the atk would be and take its place inside of space cause two masses can not exsist in the same spot thats how it blocks stuff
 

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dodgeing something is dif then blocking it buddy

Dodging would be using quick movements and getting out of the way before the jutsu even affects you..


The black hole can appear next to minato and start sucking him in, and he can use ftg as a defense to escape it.. that's a defense ...

Someone throws kunai at you, you can duck/run and dodge them, but if you're going to defend against them you can use jutsu...
 

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I will go with Kamui.
Since to defend against Kamui, Yata Mirror has to take the form of same type as Kamui type jutus and there is no defense against Kamui so Kamui shoud warp it. But 100% not sure about it.
 

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Well going by the description of both the yata mirror and kamui one could assume that both of the techniques would simply negate the other. Pretty much making it a waste of chakra and time for either Itachi or Kakashi to use them against each other.
 
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Dodging would be using quick movements and getting out of the way before the jutsu even affects you..


The black hole can appear next to minato and start sucking him in, and he can use ftg as a defense to escape it.. that's a defense ...

Someone throws kunai at you, you can duck/run and dodge them, but if you're going to defend against them you can use jutsu...

we are talking about kamui hitting yata mirrior and yata mirror stopping it not if susano dodged the atk, minato cant get hit by by the black hole and with stand it would suck him up so your point is invalid cause minato does not stop the atk or deflect it he moves so it does not hit him.

if some one throws a kunai at u and u have a sheild in your hand and u dodge it or run that does not mean the sheild can defend against the kunai do u see?
 
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Well going by the description of both the yata mirror and kamui one could assume that both of the techniques would simply negate the other. Pretty much making it a waste of chakra and time for either Itachi or Kakashi to use them against each other.

if what u say is true then yata stops kamui cause its offensive so it would not work where the sheild only has to stop something witch it did if they counter each other so u pick yata
 

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Well going by the description of both the yata mirror and kamui one could assume that both of the techniques would simply negate the other. Pretty much making it a waste of chakra and time for either Itachi or Kakashi to use them against each other.

true.
 
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