Naruto > Hashirama

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we have seen yamato control naruto's 4 tails which is similar to naruto's BM,
no it isnt. its much weaker

i say naruto's bm is defeated,
how? wood wont reach him due to his army of clones

if naruto "WAS" stronger than hashirama this war would have been over naruto is still no were near the strenght of the strongest shinobi that was ever born
strongest ever born is kabuto so of course not.

Hashi has experince... he has bringer of darkness jutsu...
naruto beat kakuzu who has way more experience. genjutsu doesnt work on naruto

Madara said he was the strongest,
no he didnt.he said people used to say he was

Only in dreamland can Naruto beat Hashirama!! Naruto can't beat Uchiha Madara let alone Hashirama!
hashiramas far weaker than madara

He clearly beat Madara one-on-one
mito was there. and madara also fought the whole village alone

Hashirama survived fighting Madara and the 9tails at the same time
how do you know it was the same time? how do you know he wasnt just stomped till his mokuton saved him and supressed nine tails?

I think he could beat Naruto just for that reason alone.
well he cant

Hashirama's powers were said to be unreal and like a "fairytale
pain and hiruzen were called gods.

And hashirama knows everything the fox can do on a x10 greater scale then any of narutos moves.
since when is full kyuubi 10x above half kyuubi? perfect jin is a bigger scale than anything that came before.

also how in the hell can hashi be slow if he out speed the full 100% power 9tails
how do you know he was faster than kyuubi?

if he manages to make spores that land on naruto wouldnt that disable his kyubi mode??
no because the trees would be destroyed as soon as it touched naruto

Did everyone forget Hashirama's power to supress the Ninetails? What will naruto do then?
what will hashirama do if his trees are destroyed before he can restrain naruto?

naruto, when he is in his full kurama transformation is definitely caught by mokuton and he isnt destroying it
one bijuudama and hes destroyed it. or several FRS

if 100% kurama couldnt break free from it then 50% kurama isnt so lets stop spewing that bullshit.
this is perfect jin naruto, not 50% kurama. kurama fused with naruto.
BM naruto is restrained he gets put too sleep by the flower tree world.
like onoki was? no he wouldnt be. kurama tells him to hold his breath and since he wont be restrained, he wont fall for it

mokuton clones are far more durable than shadow clones due to the fact that even when they recieve damage they dont disappear
narutos clone vs raikage took alot of damage

he was a weapons master.
how do you know?

Hashirama was able to conquer Madara...I don't think that Naruto would...
hashirama wasnt alone, and naruto indeed would annhilate EMS madara

naruto almost beated madara with a SM clone dude doing futon rasenshuriken
naruto wasnt alone

IDK, maybe SPAM 25 MOKUTON CLONES?????
show me scans of hashirama performing this
Hashirama immobilized the full nine tails with his mokuton
kurama was being controlled and is a bigger target than naruto

. Hashirama doesnt have ANY evil intentions. He was born with the Will of Fire and upholds it. These are two "good" guys fighting. Since Hashi doesnt have negative emotions like a "evil" shinobi would, this wouldnt work.
trying to kill someone is not a negative emotion?

Hashirama has life force within him literally. He could spam as many would clones and naruto could use shadow clones. Plus we have no idea of the FULL extent of ALL Hashirama's abilities,
exactly

The 1st hokage would destroy naruto. The 1st's wood release will stop the nines tails power, not take it but equal it.
hes never been shown to stop a perfect jinchuriki

How about defeating an EMS user along with his Susanoo while having the Nine-tails with him as well you dork? just because he didn't have Susanoo doesn't mean he might not have something that is just as good as Susanoo.
but it also doesnt mean he does
 

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no it isnt. its much weaker

how? wood wont reach him due to his army of clones

strongest ever born is kabuto so of course not.

naruto beat kakuzu who has way more experience. genjutsu doesnt work on naruto

no he didnt.he said people used to say he was

Only in dreamland can Naruto beat Hashirama!! Naruto can't beat Uchiha Madara let alone Hashirama!
hashiramas far weaker than madara

mito was there. and madara also fought the whole village alone

how do you know it was the same time? how do you know he wasnt just stomped till his mokuton saved him and supressed nine tails?

well he cant

pain and hiruzen were called gods.

since when is full kyuubi 10x above half kyuubi? perfect jin is a bigger scale than anything that came before.

how do you know he was faster than kyuubi?


no because the trees would be destroyed as soon as it touched naruto

what will hashirama do if his trees are destroyed before he can restrain naruto?

one bijuudama and hes destroyed it. or several FRS

this is perfect jin naruto, not 50% kurama. kurama fused with naruto.
like onoki was? no he wouldnt be. kurama tells him to hold his breath and since he wont be restrained, he wont fall for it

narutos clone vs raikage took alot of damage

how do you know?

hashirama wasnt alone, and naruto indeed would annhilate EMS madara

naruto wasnt alone

show me scans of hashirama performing this

kurama was being controlled and is a bigger target than naruto

trying to kill someone is not a negative emotion?

exactly

hes never been shown to stop a perfect jinchuriki

but it also doesnt mean he does

+rep.
 

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Imo Hashirama is still superior to Naruto, but with high difficult. Already his Mokuton with his Flower tree world is immense and a big advantage for him, if he covers the whole landscape. Also he can use Tajuu Mokuton Bunshins and has medical skills which are far above Tsunades level. He isn't overrated. Not without reasons a bunch of people are tried to gain a part of his powers.
 

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i thought it was obvious that hashirama>naruto

BM naruto is too big not to get caught by mokuton. accept it. 100% kurama>50% perfect jin kurama in the area of raw power. if 100% kurama couldnt break hashiramas mokuton then 50% kurama cant. im only talking about the area of raw power here as i already know a perfect jin> a tailed beast. when BM naruto gets caught by mokuton then he gets put to sleep by the flower tree world. hashirama also can make clones to hold off any naruto clones.
 

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i thought it was obvious that hashirama>naruto

BM naruto is too big not to get caught by mokuton. accept it. 100% kurama>50% perfect jin kurama in the area of raw power. if 100% kurama couldnt break hashiramas mokuton then 50% kurama cant. im only talking about the area of raw power here as i already know a perfect jin> a tailed beast. when BM naruto gets caught by mokuton then he gets put to sleep by the flower tree world. hashirama also can make clones to hold off any naruto clones.

He won't catch him or his clones. They are too quick.
 

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He won't catch him or his clones. They are too quick.

no naruto is not too fast in BM mode. he is huge and takes the shape of kurama. to take care of clones, hashirama and his set of mokuton clones who are more durable than shadow clones can use wood release: great forest technique to grow wood from their bodies and hit the clones. hashirama will also heal any damage dealt to him by kcm clones or BM naruto.
 

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no naruto is not too fast in BM mode. he is huge and takes the shape of kurama. to take care of clones, hashirama and his set of mokuton clones who are more durable than shadow clones can use wood release: great forest technique to grow wood from their bodies and hit the clones. hashirama will also heal any damage dealt to him by kcm clones or BM naruto.

KM clones too quick :cool:

It doesn't really matter, the OP explains everything in detail.
 

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KM clones too quick :cool:

It doesn't really matter, the OP explains everything in detail.

the OP doesnt explain anything. you merely listed narutos abilities like hashirama didnt have techs of his own and gave a way in which naruto counters hashiramas genjutsu which. anyway once the kcm clones get close to attack, hashiramas clones use wood release: great forest technique to hit the clones and make them disperse. the clones then heal themselves.
 

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the OP doesnt explain anything. you merely listed narutos abilities like hashirama didnt have techs of his own and gave a way in which naruto counters hashiramas genjutsu which. anyway once the kcm clones get close to attack, hashiramas clones use wood release: great forest technique to hit the clones and make them disperse. the clones then heal themselves.

He isn't healing from multiple Rasen Shurikens.
 

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VM telling me if you're serious or not please.

sigh...... its obvious your not going to look at facts. your answer to everything is going to be "narutos clones are too quick", "hashirama cant hit them", "narutos clones blitz him". danzo deflected sasukes susano arrow with mokuton which is much faster than rasenshuriken.
 

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sigh...... its obvious your not going to look at facts. your answer to everything is going to be "narutos clones are too quick", "hashirama cant hit them", "narutos clones blitz him". danzo deflected sasukes susano arrow with mokuton which is much faster than rasenshuriken.

We are not talking about Danzou. And yes I will say Naruto's clones are too quick because it is true :|
 

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We are not talking about Danzou. And yes I will say Naruto's clones are too quick because it is true :|

just like he blitzed the 6 edo jins and nagato....oh wait. hashirama can do anything anyone else can do with mokuton but on a much bigger scale. hashirama and his clones can grow trees from his body to redirect the rasenshurikens.
 

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sigh...... its obvious your not going to look at facts. your answer to everything is going to be "narutos clones are too quick", "hashirama cant hit them", "narutos clones blitz him". danzo deflected sasukes susano arrow with mokuton which is much faster than rasenshuriken.

Naruto could always do this. Rasenshuriken would also destroy any trees trying to protect Hashirama.

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Naruto could always do this. Rasenshuriken would also destroy any trees trying to protect Hashirama.

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the trees arent meant to protect hashirama as in tank the rasenshuriken. the trees just redirect their course. hashirama would turn the battlefield into a forest. hashirama could grow a tree in his body to redirect rasensguriken and while he is behind the tree, he makes a mokuton clone and hashirama himself merges with his forest. naruto would kill the clone thinking he won then he is surprised by mokuton roots coming up underneath him. hashirama then could put him to sleep with the flower tree world.
 

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the trees arent meant to protect hashirama as in tank the rasenshuriken. the trees just redirect their course. hashirama would turn the battlefield into a forest. hashirama could grow a tree in his body to redirect rasensguriken and while he is behind the tree, he makes a mokuton clone and hashirama himself merges with his forest. naruto would kill the clone thinking he won then he is surprised by mokuton roots coming up underneath him. hashirama then could put him to sleep with the flower tree world.

Trees are not redirecting rasen-shurikens.
 
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