Deidara : Bakouton ? ( Explosion release. )

[Houssem]

Hey ! Just wanted have evryone's opinion on this :
So as we know Deidara possesses the KG Bakouton aka Blast or explosion release ( Used also by gari ). And we know that deidara's techniques are weak against Raiton ( Lightning release ).
We also know that Earth element is the only element weak against raiton and not explosion element, so the only logic explanation on why deidara's bombs are weak to raiton on forums is this :
Deidara's infuses the clay ( earth element ) with his Bakouton chakra, so when Raiton neutralizes the body of the bomb wich is formed by earth it doesnt explode. Ok fair enough but the question is, why deidara didnt explode when he was hit by Omoi's sword infused with lightning ? as far as i remember deidara didnt eat any clay before trying to suicide bomb himself ? So he was only using Bakouton chakra.
So do you think that Bakouton is weak against raiton ? or do you just think that deidara's explosion are more like a technique than an element ? Or is it just PnJ ? :shrug:
( Please dont flame if there's anything important in the manga i missed that explains this, cus if i knew i woudnt ask. )

 

[natssuu]

Lightning sword would paralyze anyone.

 

[-Jiraiya-]

Though he was only using Bakouton chakra, its like a fuse... clay is the base (bomb)... So Deidara can't do much with only fuse...:shrug:
So when raiton neutralizes clay (base), Bakouton chakra is useless... Then it will be like a bomb only with a fuse...

 

[Mizukage88]

iiiii dunno

 

[Houssem]

Lightning sword would paralyze anyone.

Actually it doesnt have anything with being paralyzed.

Though he was only using Bakouton chakra, its like a fuse... clay is the base (bomb)... So Deidara can't do much with only fuse...:shrug:

Yeh but he didnt eat any clay so raiton didnt neutralize anything, so why didnt he explode :shrug:

 

[-Jiraiya-]

Yeh but he didnt eat any clay so raiton didnt neutralize anything, so why didnt he explode :shrug:

I get your point, you are reffering to last anime episode isn't it? where Omoi stabs deidara before he could eat any clay..
But he also has earth element affinity

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which might explain your answer.., like Kakuzu Iron skin tech/Suigetsu affected by raiton

 

[Houssem]

I get your point, you are reffering to last anime episode isn't it? where Omoi stabs deidara before he could eat any clay..
But he also has earth element affinity

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which might explain your answer.., like Kakuzu Iron skin tech/Suigetsu affected by raiton

Yep get you point too, but he didnt activate any earth techs. ( kakuzu's earth techs are weak to raiton that doesnt mean all his techs are weak to it he needs to activate an earth tech to be vulnerable against raiton.... )
Deidara didnt eat no clay, and he didnt do any hand sign or anything proving he's using earth techs/ earth chakra when trying to bomb himself, so following your logic i think that bakouton is weak against ration :shrug:
Kishi should stop the Plo no Jutsu x(

 

[-Jiraiya-]

Yep get you point too, but he didnt activate any earth techs. ( kakuzu's earth techs are weak to raiton that doesnt mean all his techs are weak to it he needs to activate an earth tech to be vulnerable against raiton.... )
Deidara didnt eat no clay, and he didnt do any hand sign or anything proving he's using earth techs/ earth chakra when trying to bomb himself, so following your logic i think that bakouton is weak against ration :shrug:
Kishi should stop the Plo no Jutsu x(

You have point, yet in Sasuke Vs Raikage A, Darui used that water jutsu followed by Raiton jutsu, though Sasuke didn't counter it with any raiton jutsu, he was not affected... So it seems chakra nature as such plays a role which will support my prev post.. which is the only way to explain this imo.. or else as you say we can call it plot no jutsu or plot hole... xd

 

[Stark]

His KKG is just enhanced by the clay, Gari has blast release to but uses it with a mix of taijutsu

 

[Stark]

Earth in general is weak against lightning.

 

[Houssem]

You have point, yet in Sasuke Vs Raikage A, Darui used that water jutsu followed by Raiton jutsu, though Sasuke didn't counter it with any raiton jutsu, he was not affected... So it seems chakra nature as such plays a role which will support my prev post.. which is the only way to explain this imo.. or else as you say we can call it plot no jutsu or plot hole... xd

Are you talking about that moment when darui attacked sasuke along with gaara ? Cus' sasuke countred that with susanoo. ( Wter + raiton is storm release i think )
Well i dont see how it'll affect it, cus if what you said is true a raiton user cant be killed by a stronger raiton user wich is false ...
Well Kishi trolled us again i guess xD

 

[-Jiraiya-]

Are you talking about that moment when darui attacked sasuke along with gaara ? Cus' sasuke countred that with susanoo. ( Wter + raiton is storm release i think )
Well i dont see how it'll affect it, cus if what you said is true a raiton user cant be killed by a stronger raiton user wich is false ...
Well Kishi trolled us again i guess xD

No, No,,, when Sasuke and Raikage first clashed...​

 

[Houssem]

Well he may just have absorbed it + it looks like he covred his body with raiton, plus even sasuke's own raiton hurted him when he was fighting deidara