Neji vs Tsunade

[fastrthnwind]

dude look in the databook, his taijutsu is 4.5 and hers is 5.

Their taijutsu styles are completely different, so it's meaningless to say that Tsunade is better in taijustu, because she can't use Gentle Fist taijutsu, and vice versa with Neji.

So Tsunades taijutsu stat is greater by .5. Its not even a full number/level. The .5 probably signifies that he has yet to perfectly refine his gentle fist style since he is still very young, where tsunade has a full 5 in her years of combat experience and training

 

[Floydical]

Well... Tsunade doesn't have any truly dangerous techs... just her super strength. As long as a person is fast enough, and Neji is, they can avoid indefinitely. But conisdering Neji has to get close to use his techs, he'd certainly be putting himself at high risk when fighting Tsunade. Now I think Neji is a strong Shinobi, but I'd say Tsunade could outlast him.

While Neji's tech is powerful, he is similar to Tsunade in that he doesn't have any super-powerful long range/ hybrid techniqes. Therefore, each would have to play a waiting game where they would look for a good opening. Based on this, I would say Tsunade could outlast him considering she'd be able to heal after taking a hit.

But to be honest, I think this would be a boring match up to say the least.

 

[6pathofpain]

dude look in the databook, his taijutsu is 4.5 and hers is 5.

but her hand speed is not up to par with neji's an her eyes arent as good which will be her down fall...

 

[Tazzilla88]

Their taijutsu stykes are completly different, so it's meaningless to say that Tsunade is better in taijustu, because she can't use Gentle Fist taijutsu, and vice versa with Neji.

So Tsunades taijutsu stat is greater by .5. Its not even a full number/level. The .5 probably signifies that he has yet to perfectly refine his gentle fist style since he is still very young, where tsunade has a full 5 in her years of combat experience and training

You realize by trying to minimize the .5 in this case I could easily retort that the 5 should be much higher but is capped at 5. So let's leave it as she is better at Taijutsu
Your right she doesn't use gentle palm, but we do know she can quickly attack pressure points which if Dim Mak has taught us anything is equally as deadly.

but her hand speed is not up to par with neji's an her eyes arent as good which will be her down fall...

She doesn't need the byakugan if she knows where pressure points are. :| Being able to do so much with one finger without an opponent being able to respond says her hand speed is quite good. In addition we've never seen her do repetitive hits in close combat because all her enemies fly away after the first one (Go ahead try and say Orochimaru because in the manga he too only took one punch)

 

[Yuffosan]

Tsunade is a weak hokage Neji would destroy her 3 techs Rotation,Gentle Fist and 8 trigrams 64 palms would kill Tsunade.

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[fastrthnwind]

Well... Tsunade doesn't have any truly dangerous techs... just her super strength. As long as a person is fast enough, and Neji is, they can avoid indefinitely. But conisdering Neji has to get close to use his techs, he'd certainly be putting himself at high risk when fighting Tsunade. Now I think Neji is a strong Shinobi, but I'd say Tsunade could outlast him.

While Neji's tech is powerful, he is similar to Tsunade in that he doesn't have any super-powerful long range/ hybrid techniqes. Therefore, each would have to play a waiting game where they would look for a good opening. Based on this, I would say Tsunade could outlast him considering she'd be able to heal after taking a hit.

But to be honest, I think this would be a boring match up to say the least.

Well, Neji does have vacuum palm, which is a ranged technique. You are probably right in saying that tsunade could possibly outlast him, though for her, there would be nothing to heal as neji's attacks are targeted at the chakra network itself.

You realize by trying to minimize the .5 in this case I could easily retort that the 5 should be much higher but is capped at 5. So let's leave it as she is better at Taijutsu
Your right she doesn't use gentle palm, but we do know she can quickly attack pressure points which if Dim Mak has taught us anything is equally as deadly.

Then again we don't know that for sure as Kishi didn't make up that kind of system. Instead of saying that She is better in taijustu, which she isn't becasue she doesn't use his style, it would be better to say that her experience would make her level of taijutsu more refined than Neji's.

 

[Owarij]

Did no one read my post? With Katuyu there able to spit acid
Neji will not only never be able to get off his 64 palm, since the acid is fast and requires no handseals etc..

But he'll have to be on his defensive using his Spin..And once he uses his spin he's open to a chakra enhanced punch from tsunade..

1 Tail naruto made his spin explode... Chakra enhanced tsunade would cause a 100x bigger on... Tsunade will heal from the recoil due to creation rebirth.. But neji would have suffered greatly also.. just like in his naruto fight

 

[Naruto9001]

Did no one read my post? With Katuyu there able to spit acid
Neji will not only never be able to get off his 64 palm, since the acid is fast and requires no handseals etc..

But he'll have to be on his defensive using his Spin..And once he uses his spin he's open to a chakra enhanced punch from tsunade..

1 Tail naruto made his spin explode... Chakra enhanced tsunade would cause a 100x bigger on... Tsunade will heal from the recoil due to creation rebirth.. But neji would have suffered greatly also.. just like in his naruto fight

I tried to but it was sooooo much. With katsuya Tsunade wins but this is without it.

I agree with what you said in this post though it's a better argument than most of the other posters said.

 

[Naruto9001]

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STFU unless you have a reason why im a "troll".

 

[6pathofpain]

Your argument fails for two reasons.
1. He got two attacks off.
2.His strategy consisted of running away for the majority of the fight.
3. He took a soldier pill to help him
4. According to the manga she hadn't been in battle for years.

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Which is not the case now.
5.He's not going to predict her attack as her natural strength is great enough to lift Gamabunta's sword. So she doesn't need chakra to kill him. So he won't read her chakra if she doesn't use it.
6.With boulders she can attack with a distance and given the fact that she is far more intelligent than him how often do you think she will fall for that? And did you forget about this:

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This would render Vacuum Palm Moot
7. And According to the Databook written by Kishi which is more important than your opinion Tsunade is better than Neji at Taijutsu

Your underestimating Tsunade. As I've already proved she's more talented than you give her credit for

But we've seen both of them fight an her hand speed is not up to par with neji's an neither is her eye sight. An Neji's no idiot so her out smarting him is not likely. Dont forget he's a genius as well. An the chakra in her feet being powerful enough to save her from neji an pains attack aswell is not fact. So your argument is a fail. I go by what i see aswell as what i read an her hitting neji is unlikely. An if youve seen the blood prison movie they explain how even if you dont actually try to use chakra in your attacks that you still use a lil. I canremember how he explained it.

 

[GreenV]

Tsunade one hit Neji KO

 

[6pathofpain]

You realize by trying to minimize the .5 in this case I could easily retort that the 5 should be much higher but is capped at 5. So let's leave it as she is better at Taijutsu
Your right she doesn't use gentle palm, but we do know she can quickly attack pressure points which if Dim Mak has taught us anything is equally as deadly.
She doesn't need the byakugan if she knows where pressure points are. :| Being able to do so much with one finger without an opponent being able to respond says her hand speed is quite good. In addition we've never seen her do repetitive hits in close combat because all her enemies fly away after the first one (Go ahead try and say Orochimaru because in the manga he too only took one punch)

But the fact that neji can see the small bits of chakra in her arms an predict her punches it gives him the edge. An since neji can stop her chakra flow to a whole arm with one or to shots it also puts him at an advatage.

 

[Floydical]

Well, Neji does have vacuum palm, which is a ranged technique. You are probably right in saying that tsunade could possibly outlast him, though for her, there would be nothing to heal as neji's attacks are targeted at the chakra network itself.

Yes, Neji can attack the chakra network, but that was not what I was referring to. From what I can gather from Neji's tech, Tsunade might not be able to reverse the process of having her chakra points blocked, but she could still heal internal damage done from his punches. This is assuming she still has enough chakra points open to still use some form of healing. But it seemed to me that the majority of the damage Neji does is internal, apart from blocking chakra points, and Tsunade could heal that.

As for the air palm.... I really don't consider that a powerful technique. I don't think it can really cause any decent shinobi any real damage. It mainly seems like its used for disrupting/ interrupting a person's state and allowing the user to perhaps get a tactical advantage that way. But from what I know about the air/ vacuum palm, it is not nearly on the level needed to phase Tsunade in any way.

 

[fastrthnwind]

Did no one read my post? With Katuyu there able to spit acid
Neji will not only never be able to get off his 64 palm, since the acid is fast and requires no handseals etc..

But he'll have to be on his defensive using his Spin..And once he uses his spin he's open to a chakra enhanced punch from tsunade..

1 Tail naruto made his spin explode... Chakra enhanced tsunade would cause a 100x bigger on... Tsunade will heal from the recoil due to creation rebirth.. But neji would have suffered greatly also.. just like in his naruto fight

I would love to explain how a simple, yet powerful punch wouldn't completely decimate the rotation, and why it backfired in the first place, but people won't be willing to listen. They just think that pure strength would be able to smash through any defense despite how differently this one works versus other powerful defenses.

Yes, Neji can attack the chakra network, but that was not what I was referring to. From what I can gather from Neji's tech, Tsunade might not be able to reverse the process of having her chakra points blocked, but she could still heal internal damage done from his punches. This is assuming she still has enough chakra points open to still use some form of healing. But it seemed to me that the majority of the damage Neji does is internal, apart from blocking chakra points, and Tsunade could heal that.

As for the air palm.... I really don't consider that a powerful technique. I don't think it can really cause any decent shinobi any real damage. It mainly seems like its used for disrupting/ interrupting a person's state and allowing the user to perhaps get a tactical advantage that way. But from what I know about the air/ vacuum palm, it is not nearly on the level needed to phase Tsunade in any way.

Im glad that you can understand my point of view, and I appreciate your non-derogatory comments. Most people when explaining their views usually try to intimidate the other person and try to demean them by saying that their opinion is better than the other persons. It's nice to converse with someone who won't completely try to bash on everything that I say.

Anyways, the internal damage that is caused is due to the chakra network being affected by the gentle fist attacks. The chakra network is closely intertwined with the functions of the body, so if one attacks the chakra network, then they can disrupt the functioning of the body.

Vacuum palm is actually a way to affect a person's chakra network from a distance while knocking them away at the same time.

 

[Tazzilla88]

But we've seen both of them fight an her hand speed is not up to par with neji's an neither is her eye sight. An Neji's no idiot so her out smarting him is not likely. Dont forget he's a genius as well. An the chakra in her feet being powerful enough to save her from neji an pains attack aswell is not fact. So your argument is a fail. I go by what i see aswell as what i read an her hitting neji is unlikely. An if youve seen the blood prison movie they explain how even if you dont actually try to use chakra in your attacks that you still use a lil. I canremember how he explained it.

When has Tsunade ever punched someone twice in a row to determine her hand speed when something isn't flying away from her?
Neji has a 3 in intelligence the same as Gai. Tsunade has a 5. Kishi says you're wrong
If she thought it was strong enough to stop Pein's attack, and it prevented well enough to deter him from using bansho tennin then I doubt Vacuum Palm will move her. Its called logic son.
Blood Prison is not cannon. Period. If that was true. Then villagers who had not ever awakened their chakra systems would be using chakra with every punch or kick they ever used. Which wouldn't make Shinobi very special...

 

[Naruto9001]

I would love to explain how a simple, yet powerful punch wouldn't completely decimate the rotation, and why it backfired in the first place, but people won't be willing to listen. They just think that pure strength would be able to smash through any defense despite how differently this one works versus other powerful defenses.

Read what i said in the other pages taijutsu cant destroy chakra the reason why kyubi chakra Naruto and Neji's rotation tied was because both of them are made out of chakra.

 

[Owarij]

I would love to explain how a simple, yet powerful punch wouldn't completely decimate the rotation, and why it backfired in the first place, but people won't be willing to listen. They just think that pure strength would be able to smash through any defense despite how differently this one works versus other powerful defenses.

Please go ahead an explain.. because as far as i remember.. 1 tailed naruto had a chakra enhanced punch, the very same as what tsunade does..

 

[Tazzilla88]

But the fact that neji can see the small bits of chakra in her arms an predict her punches it gives him the edge. An since neji can stop her chakra flow to a whole arm with one or to shots it also puts him at an advatage.

The fact that she can kill him with one shot, or screw his entire nervous system with one shot is an advantage for her.

Just a question to test your reasoning abilities: Do you honestly think the best medical ninja in the world cannot open and close chakra points?
Do you believe the woman who very easily healed Tsukuyomi damage when every doctor in Konoha had no where near the skill to do it wouldn't be able to defend herself from closed chakra points.
Do you think the woman who lived during 3 wars and lived to old age did so by punching slowly?

 

[fastrthnwind]

Read what i said in the other pages taijutsu cant destroy chakra the reason why kyubi chakra Naruto and Neji's rotation tied was because both of them are made out of chakra.

My reasonings are different, but they still somewhat incorporates the same principles from your arguements.

Neji has a 3 in intelligence the same as Gai. Tsunade has a 5. Kishi says you're wrong

While Tsunade is a very seasoned shinobi and able to hold her own in combat, her intelligence is mostly in Medical ninjutsu as that is what she is known for. Gai and Neji are still very capable fighters despite their mediocre intelligence stats.

 

[6pathofpain]

When has Tsunade ever punched someone twice in a row to determine her hand speed when something isn't flying away from her?
Neji has a 3 in intelligence the same as Gai. Tsunade has a 5. Kishi says you're wrong
If she thought it was strong enough to stop Pein's attack, and it prevented well enough to deter him from using bansho tennin then I doubt Vacuum Palm will move her. Its called logic son.
Blood Prison is not cannon. Period. If that was true. Then villagers who had not ever awakened their chakra systems would be using chakra with every punch or kick they ever used. Which wouldn't make Shinobi very special...

When she was punching oro when they fought.
Neji has will over whelm her with 64 palms, I dont care what you or kishi say she not about to out smart neji. Quit suckin Kishi an think for yourself. An she thought it would work. But she cant be to smart if she didnt account for pain being able to lift the floor under her...yea she's smart.
An they were talkin about chakra in general jus random facts, its cannon. Jus cause you say its isnt doesnt mean anything to me. An naturally its differnet between shinobi an regular people smh