can kamui warp itachi's yata mirror?

[Wolfang714]

I think Kamui can warp it

 

[Owarij]

All itachi has to do is deactivate sussanno....

But as for if it can warp it, idk, Databooks say no defence is possible for kamui

but then say that No attack, Chakra, physical, spirtual or that of gods can do anything to yata mirror..

So there really is no way of knowing.

 

[Stark]

I dont think so, it might be to much for him

 

[naruttebayo]

All itachi has to do is deactivate sussanno....

But as for if it can warp it, idk, Databooks say no defence is possible for kamui

but then say that No attack, Chakra, physical, spirtual or that of gods can do anything to yata mirror..

So there really is no way of knowing.

i agree with your first line

however your data book thinking may not be right about the defense of yata mirror

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^^ see the main thing which makes yata mirror invincible is the nature transforming ability .

itachi being invincible is zetsu's opinion , as he will be unaffected by any type of attack (water , fire , lightening , wind , earth etc)

this not literally means it can't be overpowered , if u think logically it must have a limit and that limit must be itachi's own chakra , itachi can't maintain susanoo for very long so this seems logical to say yata mirror can't be maintain forever ,

every jutsu has it's weakness so you never know when your assumptions go wrong cuz everything told us by manga or databook is written in a way that you may think something is so powerfull and then you find some weaknesses .

 

[Owarij]

i agree with your first line

however your data book thinking may not be right about the defense of yata mirror

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^^ see the main thing which makes yata mirror invincible is the nature transforming ability .

itachi being invincible is zetsu's opinion , as he will be unaffected by any type of attack (water , fire , lightening , wind , earth etc)

this not literally means it can't be overpowered , if u think logically it must have a limit and that limit must be itachi's own chakra , itachi can't maintain susanoo for very long so this seems logical to say yata mirror can't be maintain forever ,

every jutsu has it's weakness so you never know when your assumptions go wrong cuz everything told us by manga or databook is written in a way that you may think something is so powerfull and then you find some weaknesses .

No my friend, You are looking at narutopedia
Databook literally mentioned
that no attack, Whether from Astral, Physical, Or spiritual....

Kamui as an attack would fall under astral right? Since it follows the principles of a black hole.. which is in space.. and astral means relating to space and stars...

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I never use pedia, because though they are correct on most things.. If you want the finite details, and neccesary details to win debates, It's best you find them from the manga itself and databooks.. Not just the words of others

 

[naruttebayo]

No my friend, You are looking at narutopedia
Databook literally mentioned
that no attack, Whether from Astral, Physical, Or spiritual....

Kamui as an attack would fall under astral right? Since it follows the principles of a black hole.. which is in space.. and astral means relating to space and stars...

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I never use pedia, because though they are correct on most things.. If you want the finite details, and neccesary details to win debates, It's best you find them from the manga itself and databooks.. Not just the words of others

i saw that picture and looked at the words carefully ,

a spirite weapon which can change it's property according to attack right ?

but there is nothing about the limit , it's all about changing the characteristics .

there is nothing in pic you posted which says it's invincible , it says it has the ability to change it's attribute according to attack making it ineffective . now it can go both ways if you r a fan you may think it's invincible , and other people may think otherwise just by theory-crafting .

facts can be twisted my friend . that's why you may or may not be correct , so don't be so sure .
and listen what itachi says -"People live their lives bound by what they accept as correct and true. That's how they define "reality". But what does it mean to be "correct" or "true"? Merely vague concepts… their "reality" may all be a mirage. Can we consider them to simply be living in their own world, shaped by their beliefs?"

also "every jutsu has it's weakness"

thanks for the pic btw .

and can you give me the link where i can read the data book .

 

[itachi izanami]

before kakashi uses it he would have been killed already

 

[Owarij]

i saw that picture and looked at the words carefully ,

a spirite weapon which can change it's property according to attack right ?

but there is nothing about the limit , it's all about changing the characteristics .

there is nothing in pic you posted which says it's invincible , it says it has the ability to change it's attribute according to attack making it ineffective . now it can go both ways if you r a fan you may think it's invincible , and other people may think otherwise just by theory-crafting .

facts can be twisted my friend . that's why you may or may not be correct , so don't be so sure .
and listen what itachi says -"People live their lives bound by what they accept as correct and true. That's how they define "reality". But what does it mean to be "correct" or "true"? Merely vague concepts… their "reality" may all be a mirage. Can we consider them to simply be living in their own world, shaped by their beliefs?"

also "every jutsu has it's weakness"

thanks for the pic btw .

and can you give me the link where i can read the data book .

Changing it's characteristics is just one of the abilities..

It can also repel physical attacks.. - We saw sasuke run in with his katana and got tossed back..

And according to the databook.. not only Physical, but spiritual and astral..
Since kamui is an astral ability, it should repel it..

Also yes, every jutsu has a weakness... Kamui is a jutsu..

Yata mirror isn't...Yata mirror is a weapon...

PM me for it

 

[naruttebayo]

Changing it's characteristics is just one of the abilities..

It can also repel physical attacks.. - We saw sasuke run in with his katana and got tossed back..

And according to the databook.. not only Physical, but spiritual and astral..
Since kamui is an astral ability, it should repel it..

Also yes, every jutsu has a weakness... Kamui is a jutsu..

Yata mirror isn't...Yata mirror is a weapon...

PM me for it

^^^^ those were never my points haha

i never said it can't repel , probably you didn't understand what i wanted to say .

and probably you will come up with something random typing again haha

well i'll just say it again and this time with little more explanation .

But as for if it can warp it, idk, Databooks say no defence is possible for kamui

but then say that No attack, Chakra, physical, spirtual or that of gods can do anything to yata mirror..

So there really is no way of knowing.

^^^ look here this is the hype i commented on

by giving a logical approach about the yata mirror ,

let's talk about the basics for more clear opinion , every jutsu needs chakra
so my point basically was if yata mirror is changing it's characteristics it's costing chakra to change it's attribute , as susanoo feeds on your own chakra , it is logical to say that way .
and that should be the limit of the yata mirror .

it is simple as math why susanoo costs too much chakraa . just like susanoo can't be maintained very long same goes for yata mirror too . and it can be overpowered if you r throwing some thing so damn condensed and powerful .. or may be it block for once
but not blocking it 2nd time .

 

[Unorthodox]

agree

 

[Raito]

I don't think Kamui is helpful. Totsukas sword and Yatas mirror aren't physical objects but just spiritual energy Susanoo forms. Even if Kakashi absorbs Yatas mirror, I think Itachi can use it again.

 

[Prince Charles]

I don't think Kamui is helpful. Totsukas sword and Yatas mirror aren't physical objects but just spiritual energy Susanoo forms. Even if Kakashi absorbs Yatas mirror, I think Itachi can use it again.

i dont think so, if kakashi warps yata mirror to a diff dimension how will itachi be able to use it again? its not part of sussano anymore

 

[Dantee]

^^^^ those were never my points haha

i never said it can't repel , probably you didn't understand what i wanted to say .

and probably you will come up with something random typing again haha

well i'll just say it again and this time with little more explanation .



^^^ look here this is the hype i commented on

by giving a logical approach about the yata mirror ,

let's talk about the basics for more clear opinion , every jutsu needs chakra
so my point basically was if yata mirror is changing it's characteristics it's costing chakra to change it's attribute , as susanoo feeds on your own chakra , it is logical to say that way .
and that should be the limit of the yata mirror .

it is simple as math why susanoo costs too much chakraa . just like susanoo can't be maintained very long same goes for yata mirror too . and it can be overpowered if you r throwing some thing so damn condensed and powerful .. or may be it block for once
but not blocking it 2nd time .

You write so much to speak nonsense.

 

[Mark Uzumaki]

Of course it can warp the mirror ! & if Itachi deactivates Susanoo , then he himself will be warped .

 

[Owarij]

Did you people read what i posted?

Databooks say kamui can defend against any Elemental, Physical, spiritual and astral attack o.0

Astral dealing with space, which is what kamui falls under, since it's a black hole

 

[Prince Charles]

Did you people read what i posted?

Databooks say kamui can defend against any Elemental, Physical, spiritual and astral attack o.0

Astral dealing with space, which is what kamui falls under, since it's a black hole

still waiting o those links to the databooks...

 

[Raito]

Did you people read what i posted?

Databooks say kamui can defend against any Elemental, Physical, spiritual and astral attack o.0

Astral dealing with space, which is what kamui falls under, since it's a black hole

No one denies, but since Yatas mirror is spiritual energy which is formed by Susanoo, appears and disappears with it, it would be quite illogical that someone can take away its weapons. They will always be formed again, or am I wrong?

 

[Prince Charles]

No one denies, but since Yatas mirror is spiritual energy which is formed by Susanoo, appears and disappears with it, it would be quite illogical that someone can take away its weapons. They will always be formed again, or am I wrong?

i think your wrong it something gets taken its taken away how can itachi use something that is taken away?

yata mirror doesnt belong to sussano itachi just equiped it with it so logically it can be taken away.

 

[Owarij]

No one denies, but since Yatas mirror is spiritual energy which is formed by Susanoo, appears and disappears with it, it would be quite illogical that someone can take away its weapons. They will always be formed again, or am I wrong?

Yata mirorr is spirtual energy yes, not susanno, susanno is just materialized chakra... We don't know how things affect spiritual items..

I mean is a spirit/ ghost affected by gravity? Lets use our imagination for a seocnd.. How would it suck it in? + They very fact that databooks say astral attacks do nothing to it...

 

[Prince Charles]

Yata mirorr is spirtual energy yes, not susanno, susanno is just materialized chakra... We don't know how things affect spiritual items..

I mean is a spirit/ ghost affected by gravity? Lets use our imagination for a seocnd.. How would it suck it in? + They very fact that databooks say astral attacks do nothing to it...

databook link on yata mirror please? :noc: