when was the last time a normal shinobi broke genjutsu?

[Naruto Uzumaki Bijuu Sage]

Never lol

 

[KyoshiroSenju]

so than how did hashirama solo madara and the nine tails?

We dnt even knw how tht fight went out

 

[Dolpha Mihawk]

A skilled genjutsu user will keep you in a genjutsu regardless of the kai method.

 

[CrimsonH4ze]

iruka with mizuki.

 

[Prince Charles]

agreed, genjutsu is too op in naruto verse especially itachi's he can basically 1 shot anyone that doesnt have a sharigan or that isnt skilled in sharigan.

 

[UnrealSoul]

Because KA, Izanagi and Izanami (the 3 ultimate jutsu's) can't be broken like that. They don't follow the same laws as a normal genjutsu. Inflicting pain is to bring their senses back. Disrupting chakra is to bring their senses back. What the Hachibi does to Bee is to bring his senses back. But those 3 genjutsu's work regardless of your 5 senses (which is why KA is so hard to notice, it happens in the real world). It doesn't effect the senses, only their chakra.
Well, you may be able to counter Izanami with Izanagi actually. I don't see how Izanami can be broken yet.

Izanami can only be broken by izanagi.Izanagi changes reality that makes destiny(Izanami) void.That is why Itachi most likely didn't use it on Tobi.

 

[iSpeak]

Izanami can only be broken by izanagi.Izanagi changes reality that makes destiny(Izanami) void.That is why Itachi most likely didn't use it on Tobi.

How does Itachi know Tobi has Izanagi? If he knew that, then he wouldn't have implanted Amaterasu into Sasuke since it would be useless.
As of now, we don't know if Izanagi works on illusions aswell (it say's all disadvantages but im not to sure if an illusions can be categorised into that though). It probably would though.

 

[UnrealSoul]

How does Itachi know Tobi has Izanagi? If he knew that, then he wouldn't have implanted Amaterasu into Sasuke since he knows it would be useless.
As of now, we don't know if Izanagi works on illusions aswell (it say's all disadvantages. Not sure if genjutsu can be categorised into that though).

I said most likely if that was the case.Jesus man and how on earth would it not work on genjutsu?Izanagi changes reality meaning that who ever cast Izanami did not effect the one who cast Izanagi.Meaning izanagi cancels izanami through the user himself.It's like saying you use izanami when punched me in the stomoach;Now,I have to keep going through it and attempt to do what you destined me to do. I use izanagi to make what I did into reality as Izanagi grants what I want.

Also check this out from narutopedia-
Izanagi is a genjutsu that is cast on the user instead of others and is the most powerful amongst this type of genjutsu.[1] zanagi is a genjutsu that is cast on the user instead of others and is the most powerful amongst this type of genjutsu.[1] When activated, the caster removes the boundaries between reality and illusion within their personal space. To a degree this allows the user to control their own state of existence, but it is normally only active for the briefest of moments.[2]When activated, the caster removes the boundaries between reality and illusion within their personal space. To a degree this allows the user to control their own state of existence, but it is normally only active for the briefest of moments.[2]

 

[iSpeak]

I said most likely if that was the case.Jesus man and how on earth would it not work on genjutsu?Izanagi changes reality meaning that who ever cast Izanami did not effect the one who cast Izanagi.Meaning izanagi cancels izanami through the user himself.It's like saying you use izanami when punched me in the stomoach;Now,I have to keep going through it and attempt to do what you destined me to do. I use izanagi to make what I did into reality as Izanagi grants what I want.

Also check this out from narutopedia-
Izanagi is a genjutsu that is cast on the user instead of others and is the most powerful amongst this type of genjutsu.[1] zanagi is a genjutsu that is cast on the user instead of others and is the most powerful amongst this type of genjutsu.[1] When activated, the caster removes the boundaries between reality and illusion within their personal space. To a degree this allows the user to control their own state of existence, but it is normally only active for the briefest of moments.[2]When activated, the caster removes the boundaries between reality and illusion within their personal space. To a degree this allows the user to control their own state of existence, but it is normally only active for the briefest of moments.[2]

I already know what Izanagi does... but does it work on genjutsu? I dont know for sure. Tobi said you can change your disadvantages (such as injuries and even death) into an illusion. Does this include genjutsu aswell though, since it doesn't actually harm you? That is what I am saying.
Like I said, we don't know for sure yet (no point acting like you do), but I think it could.

 

[destined 2 win]

You are rather thick or you have no idea what you speak off. Apart from the op genjutsu's like ka, tsukuyomi, izanami, simple genjutsu's can kill, but that isnt even the purpose of genjutsu. Its pains me whenever people say genjutsu doenst kill. The reason it doesnt kill is because that isnt the purpose of genjutsu. Genjutsu is to create an opening, deceive your opponent by controlling their senses. That is what genjutsu is about, its never been about killing you opponent, thats what allowed itachi to defeat oro and deidora in base. If he was to fight either one of them without genjutsu although he'd still win, it would be slightly harder. If you want to know the real purpose of genjutsu, go back and watch danzo vs sasuke or infact read what tobi says about sasuke's weak genjutsu;

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^^ That is the power of genjutsu, even a weak one.

Secondly although genjutsu is to deceive, fool or paralyse an opponent, genjutsu itself can kill an opponent even though that isnt the purpose and this is why;

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The ability to control your opponents 5 senses. If thats the case you can give your opponent false senses and even control them to kill themself and deidora wasnt too far away from doing that. So whilst the whole purpose of genjutsu isnt to kill, it can;

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Secondly there is no real thing as counter to genjutsu. Yagura and bee both fell victim to genjutsu. Bee fell victim to a regular sharingan genjutsu and this is what im trying to say. Its a tool that can depends on the user. Another example, itahi, kurenai and oro all have 5/5 for genjutsu and itachi shat on both in this wield with relative ease. Secondly doujutsu isnt a counter to genjutsu and tbh this fails a lot. Sure having a doujutsu helps you see that you in a genjutsu, but that doesnt mean you are immune. If you do not know that you are in one or have rubbish chakra control then you fall victim.

Its due to genjutsu albeit sound, that allowed jiraiya to defeat 3 paths. He tried ninjutsu and taijutsu based attacks and all proved futile, but it was genjutsu that got the better of the paths.

Secondly it seems people dont understand that apart from the super op genjutsu's, paralysis genjutsu and normal genjutsu are two different things. Normal genjutsu can be broken albeit a lot harder depending on the user. Paralysis genjutsu can also be broken BUT it takes longer to break because you have been paralysed.

Example is the Magen: Gamarinshou;

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Demonic Illusion: Toad Confrontation Chant (魔幻・蝦蟇臨唱, Magen: Gamarinshou)
Genjutsu, Senjutsu, No rank, Offensive, Supplementary, All ranges
Users: Shima, Fukasaku

When it reaches your ears, you're the prisoner of the demonic illusion
A one-hear certain kill vocal duet!!

The person who hears it is lured into a "genjutsu world that binds the mind"
When two or more toads come together and sing the secret musical scale passed down on Mt. Myouboku, the person who hears the harmony is lured into a "genjutsu world that binds the mind". Because learning it requires many long years of training, the husband and wife Great Toad Sage are the only one's with the skills to perform it. Databook 3, page 302-303

OR Mateki: Mugen Onsa;

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GENJUTSU; Mateki: Mugen Onsa (Demonic Flute: Phantasmal Crotchets*)
User: Tayuya
Supplementary; Close, Medium, Long ranges;
Rank: B
Main text One of the genjutsu that rely on the sound of the flute. Whoever hears it will be assailed by the vivid sensation that their limbs have been fastened with sturdy ropes, thus becoming unable to move about freely. At the same time, they are fed morbid hallucinations, which makes it also possible to run them down mentally. Given that the means of transmission is sound-based, it has a large range of effectiveness, on top of which it can be applied even without knowledge of the enemy's position, which makes for an exceedingly convenient jutsu.

Databook 2 p.276

These 2 genjutsu's have affected doujutsu users so whats your point. U_U


Any way genjutsu depends on the skill of the user. Naruto was actually in the middle of breaking the finger genjutsu (as its been called) but itachi put more strain into it. Similarly oro was in the middle of breaking Magen: Kasegui no Jutsu but his hand was cut. Taking about this genjutsu i always facepalm when people say itachi got lucky to cut oro's hand off because they were near each other. That genjutsu is short range anyway therefore itachi used what was in his arsenal to good measure in that scenario when both were close in proximity;

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Demonic Illusion: Shackling Stakes Technique (魔幻・枷杭の術, Magen: Kasegui no Jutsu)
Genjutsu, Kekkei Genkai, No rank, Supplementary, Short range (0-5m)
Users: Uchiha Itachi, Uchiha Sasuke

A make-believe yoke piercing the limbs and body, completely snatching away one's freedom to move!! Once caught in the mind world created by the user, the victim will be tormented with the sensation of having wedges driven through their limbs, completely taking away their body's freedom. At the same time, the physical pain accompanying the illusion reveals the great use this technique has for primarily torture and such.

Third 3, page 301

omg why u take words of uchihaa so seriously as if they are god spoken. u are always quoting words form itachi, or tobi and tell them its the ultimate truth.
if u are smart enough genjutsu are all mere illusion used to distract the opponents. and u are absolutely wrong genjutsu can ever kill a person. in the same way genjutsu and other high skill combo attack are rarely shown in manga except in danzo vs sasuke fight. most of the time genjutsu user just manipulate staying still and torturing the opponent. hence genjutsu is only good for 1vs1.
and why on earth genjutsu hasnt played a significant part in any of the fights ???? madara lost to hashi even having the best tsukuyomi and perfect susanoo. similarly itachi hasnt won any significant battle ever in his life. itachi could only relish on short skirmishes ,while sasuke with another tsukuyomi user always gets hiss ass kicked and need others help to back him up in every fight . similarly tobi is also an epic failure who can use all what so ever troll jutsu but still getting pawned .

get a life dude your itachi gaism cant save itachi form being a failure. itachi himself admitted he was the greatest troll on earth and failed at astronomical level.:sy:

 

[destined 2 win]

obviously he didn';t make eye contact

obviously hashi was fighting along his clones so madara didnt wanted to mistakenly use genjutsu on hashi's clone .:sy: