Senju, Uzumaki, Uchiha and Hyuga all descendants of the SO6P. Fully Explained!

[Dantee]

I'm disagreeing about the Hyuuga having powerful chakra part. Gentle fist is not a sign of powerful chakra. IMO. I think Uchihas have showed more signs of powerful chakra

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

going to disagree with this theory because it seems like all your examples are opposites of what we know of the decendants of the SoT6P with the exception of enhanced eye sight. And some sort of enhanced vision comes standard with all of the 3 dojutsu.

Opposites, how do you mean exactly? And also even without this thread it's quite obvious that the hyuga and the uchiha descended from the older brother in some way or form because they are the only two other eye dojutsu's. Kushina has already confirmed that the Senju and uzumaki are blood relatives so I don't need to comment about that.

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[shadedcrow]

I'm disagreeing about the Hyuuga having powerful chakra part. Gentle fist is not a sign of powerful chakra. IMO

agreed it seems more like powerful taijutsu and honed chakra control.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

I'm disagreeing about the Hyuuga having powerful chakra part. Gentle fist is not a sign of powerful chakra. IMO. I think Uchihas have showed more signs of powerful chakra

I sort of agree but this formula I made but notice powerful chakra the only thing life by the sage with the name chakra in it. Eight Trigrams Palms Revolving Heaven is a perfect example of powerful chakra. Read the uchiha and hyuga parts. But also the descendants of the elder son will both have strong spiritual energy and and powerful chakra. Whichever clan you believe will have more is up to you, but I have given my points for what I think.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

agreed it seems more like powerful taijutsu and honed chakra control.

Gentle first is more weak taijutsu (Gentle) with powerful chakra being released, don't you think ?

 

[Worrier of Wind]

Opposites, how do you mean exactly? And also even without this thread it's quite obvious that the hyuga and the uchiha descended from the older brother in some way or form because they are the only two other eye dojutsu's. Kushina has already confirmed that the Senju and uzumaki are blood relatives so I don't need to comment about that.



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[shadedcrow]

Opposites, how do you mean exactly? And also even without this thread it's quite obvious that the hyuga and the uchiha descended from the older brother in some way or form because they are the only two other eye dojutsu's. Kushina has already confirmed that the Senju and uzumaki are blood relatives so I don't need to comment about that. .

your comparison of the 8 trigrams tech vs shinra tensei- neji is just blocking the incoming items, where as shinra tensei repels items and can redirect them in a given direction.

releasing chakra from the finger tips and palms vs absorbing chakra - simplely explained by releasing and absorbing are opposite, and releasing chakra from the fingertips and palms isnt that rare kakashis rasangan, puppet masters and their chakra threads all are forms of chakra released from the hands, and medical ninjutsu all do this on top of being visible being visable, on the flip not many if any other than those with the rinningan can absorb others chakra like a leach.

its probabale that their related but we dont know the story or history of the Hyuga and who/where they came from and who married who and who had whos baby. Its just as probable that their dojutsu is a mutation just like the the other freaks in naruto.

And if they were related why would they branch off and form their own clan. And I'm not sure how that the Hyuga developing their own style of taijutsu is a form of powerful chakra. I doubt their chakra is much diffrent than anyone elses.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

your comparison of the 8 trigrams tech vs shinra tensei- neji is just blocking the incoming items, where as shinra tensei repels items and can redirect them in a given direction.

releasing chakra from the finger tips and palms vs absorbing chakra - simplely explained by releasing and absorbing are opposite, and releasing chakra from the fingertips and palms isnt that rare kakashis rasangan, puppet masters and their chakra threads all are forms of chakra released from the hands, and medical ninjutsu all do this on top of being visible being visable, on the flip not many if any other than those with the rinningan can absorb others chakra like a leach.

its probabale that their related but we dont know the story or history of the Hyuga and who/where they came from and who married who and who had whos baby. Its just as probable that their dojutsu is a mutation just like the the other freaks in naruto.

And if they were related why would they branch off and form their own clan. And I'm not sure how that the Hyuga developing their own style of taijutsu is a form of powerful chakra. I doubt their chakra is much diffrent than anyone elses.

"8 trigrams" is chakra being releasedfrom all 361 chakra points in the body and rotating, the chakra forms a shield. Shinra tensei is a forced, what force? I don't know, but I believe rinnegan has perfect chakra control and this is why they are able to do this force.

Once again I think rinnegan's complete control over chakra allows them to do this, rinnegan makes a user so skilled at chakra control that they can take away the chakra from the ninjutsu it's almost like a new technique that a byakuga user would have. Also the sage is the one who taught everyone else how to use chakra as well, but I believe the hyuga inherited the the power chakra directly from the sage which is why they can do so much with it "8 trigrams" is a prime example.

Lol I agree as we don't know this I just made a theory of what they inherited from the sage or elder son as it was.

I don't know but if the Senju could branch of into the uzumaki then the same thing could of happened with the uchiha. Have you ever seen anyone in naruto do what the hyuga clan can do with chakra "8 trigrams" release chakra from their palm is prime examples. Notice they aren't using chakra to do ninjutsu they are using the chakra it self as a weapon which suggest their chakra is strong.

 

[Uchihas with Big Guns]

Good effort but not completely

I studied & worked on a similar and more wide scale theory for months just never got round to creating it

Anyways I do believe the hyuuga are the uchihas version of the uzimaki but their roles aren't as great as what this thread portrays them

Spiritual = imagination/creativeness

What many people never connect is the hyuuga actually have the same ideals as the uchihas this is why the main branch has all the POWER. I could go more into this but I don't think its important.

 

[Blaze Release]

Parts might be iffy but i also agree that the hyuuga are related to the sage or should i say the uchiha and it makes sense tbh. The 3 great doujutsu's are the rennigan, sharingan and byagukan, we know that the sharingan is basically a diluted rennigan. The byakugan must also come from the rennigan because just like the sharingan it also has abilities to the rennigan but also abilities to the sharingan.

The only part i disagree with is what kakashi said when he basically said that the uchiha come from the hyuuga. i disagree because the latest manga has made it clear that the uchiha and senju are direct descendants of the sage. The manga further established that the uzumaki and senju are long distant relatives, but also if you look at the abilities that the younger brother got the uzumaki clan also received this abilities, although there's varies slightly.

Thats the same with the hyuuga, you can say they also distant relatives of the uchiha, but just like uzumaki who got similar abilities to the senju they also got a difference in variation. The difference between the hyuuga and uchiha is that both also got the sage's eyes so to speak but they vary. The sharingan and byakugan are different.

 

[Mizukata]

very nice theory

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Good effort but not completely

I studied & worked on a similar and more wide scale theory for months just never got round to creating it

Anyways I do believe the hyuuga are the uchihas version of the uzimaki but their roles aren't as great as what this thread portrays them

Spiritual = imagination/creativeness

What many people never connect is the hyuuga actually have the same ideals as the uchihas this is why the main branch has all the POWER. I could go more into this but I don't think its important.

What you said about their roles I have another theory about this as well, it is basically that uzumaki's are supports and hyuga's are supports they were never battlefield fighters. Gentle fist is a taijutsu developed by the top people in the hyuga as they can see chakra and release it from their finger tips. Uzumaki seal things like when the 1st wife sealed nine tails so they meant to be support as we can tell by karin aswell. There's a lot more about this but it would be a whole new thread. So if it is every revealed in the manga that the hyuga is also descendants of the elder son I will make another thread.

"I wanted to include the hyuga's hatred as well and how it relates to the younger son being chosen and not the older, the eldest in the hyuga clan assured the younger siblings did not gain control over them. The oldest people in the hyuga clan solved this with the curse mark. So the oldest would always be in control of the clan and not their younger brothers."

In bold is a reply I made to someone's post on this thread this is sort of what you think as well.

Parts might be iffy but i also agree that the hyuuga are related to the sage or should i say the uchiha and it makes sense tbh. The 3 great doujutsu's are the rennigan, sharingan and byagukan, we know that the sharingan is basically a diluted rennigan. The byakugan must also come from the rennigan because just like the sharingan it also has abilities to the rennigan but also abilities to the sharingan.

The only part i disagree with is what kakashi said when he basically said that the uchiha come from the hyuuga. i disagree because the latest manga has made it clear that the uchiha and senju are direct descendants of the sage. The manga further established that the uzumaki and senju are long distant relatives, but also if you look at the abilities that the younger brother got the uzumaki clan also received this abilities, although there's varies slightly.

Thats the same with the hyuuga, you can say they also distant relatives of the uchiha, but just like uzumaki who got similar abilities to the senju they also got a difference in variation. The difference between the hyuuga and uchiha is that both also got the sage's eyes so to speak but they vary. The sharingan and byakugan are different.

Kakashi is the same person who said the sage doesn't exist and the rinnegan is just a mutation, kakashi is one of those guys who doesn't believe in mythical sh*t lol.

And yes we basically believe the same thing, that is why I have made this thread to go into great detail about what the senju's, uzumaki's, uchiha and the hyuga all obtained from the sage.

Some of it is a bit of speculation and theory but is because the manga hasn't provided us with information about this so I looked into it my self/

 

[Uchihas with Big Guns]

@hidden shinobi
Lmao been saying kakashi don't know shit! what a sceptic...

 

[deadp00l]

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didn't read btw

 

[SasukeUchiha910]

awesome theory (+rep)

 

[BijuuBoy]

excellent theory

 

[Wolfang714]

Interesting theory

 

[shadedcrow]

"8 trigrams" is chakra being releasedfrom all 361 chakra points in the body and rotating, the chakra forms a shield. Shinra tensei is a forced, what force im not sure but I believe rinnegan has perfect chakra control so they are able to do this.

Once again I think rinnegan's complete control over chakra allows them to do this rinnegan is so skilled at chakra control that they can take away the chakra from the ninjutsu it's almost like a new technique. Also the sage is the one who taught everyone else how to use chakra as well, but I believe the hyuga inherited the the power chakra directly from the sage which is why they can do so much with it "8 trigrams" is a prime example.

Lol I agree as we don't know this I just my a theory of what they inherited from the sage or elder son as it was.

I don't know but if the Senju could branch of into the uzumaki then the same thing could of happened with the uchiha. Have you ever seen anyone in naruto do what the hyuga clan can do with chakra "8 trigrams" release chakra from their palm is prime examples. Notice they aren't using chakra to do ninjutsu they are using the chakra it self as a weapon which suggest their chakra is strong.

Sasori and Chio use chakra shields, and yes Kakashi uses chakra itself as a weapon so does konahamaru when they use rasangan, and kabuto uses a chakra a plain type

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around his hand. And when Tobi was talking to Naruto and HInata was there if she had any kind of relation to the SoT6Ps or the uchiha dont you think he would have mentioned it? Or even kabuto or orochimaru in trying to gain more power?

 

[Chatte]

I don't think anyone will ever be exactly like the sage but they can try and become as close as the sage as possible.

well probably that's why they won't ever be like the sage, because they are missing the other parts...

anyway, nice theory man, i was thinking something as that myself, but you put it better than me

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Sasori and Chio use chakra shields, and yes Kakashi uses chakra itself as a weapon so does konahamaru when they use rasangan, and kabuto uses a chakra a plain type

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around his hand. And when Tobi was talking to Naruto and HInata was there if she had any kind of relation to the SoT6Ps or the uchiha dont you think he would have mentioned it? Or even kabuto or orochimaru in trying to gain more power?

Yes but what I am saying is, what the hyuga clan does with chakra is the most powerful use of it. "8 trigrams" once again.

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@shadedcrow Common are you telling me these ain't powerful chakra uses:

Eight Trigrams Palms Revolving Heaven:

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Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms:

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Gentle Fist Art One Blow Body:

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Done against Kidomaru to release himself from his webs using his chakra and done against a zetsu in the war.

True but tobi does not care about the uzumaki clan as well just the senju. He mentioned about nagato's hair going white but that's about it.

Also because of the hyuga's main house branch house system it is very very difficult to obtain the byakugan, the cloud village has tried many times.

Read my reason for giving uchiha spitirual and hyuga powerful again and then my conclusion and you might finally agree with me.