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You still haven't given me scans of him having the sharingon at 8. So? Sasuke was 13 with the 2 toome same age as Obito who was considered a failure. I dont care about him unlocking the 3 toome Itachi had it in way less time. He was fighting with the intent to kill after he saw how strong Bee was his MS powers are given powers this is about natural talent.
Lol why should I bother posting you scans :rolleyes: Why do you keep going back to Itachi. Yes Itachi was more talented than Sasuke so what? Obito a failure? Same guy fighting on par with Kakashi after unlocking sharigan. Skipping two stages? That doesn't sound like a failure to me.

Itachi became sick and ill and Sasuke has long surpasssed him when Itachi was 16. Natural talent really? Sasuke lost half his powers and you expect him to fight on par on with the 8 tails. Just do yourself a favor stop talking. U_U
 

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Scans of him unlocked it at that age?

Like i already said to other people Sasuke copying lee's speed/taijutsu was part of his chidori trainning.

Sasuke got killed by Base Bee 2 times Neji might lose to Base Bee but not get destroyed like Sasuke.

I know but his curse mark at the stage was in obviously wouldn't have helped since he fought Naruto after he got a upgraded one why if his current cm was strong enough to kill Naruto he didn't do it before the sound four gave him his power up.

This isn't a troll thread i've been giving good points.
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As you can see on page 2 Sasuke has a 1 tomoe sharingan
 

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Lol why should I bother posting you scans :rolleyes: Why do you keep going back to Itachi. Yes Itachi was more talented than Sasuke so what? Obito a failure? Same guy fighting on par with Kakashi after unlocking sharigan. Skipping two stages? That doesn't sound like a failure to me.

Itachi became sick and ill and Sasuke has long surpasssed him when Itachi was 16. Natural talent really? Sasuke lost half his powers and you expect him to fight on par on with the 8 tails. Just do yourself a favor stop talking. U_U
What you said just became invalid since you refuse to give scans. Because Itachi was a genius of the uchihas and his feats show it but by the age Sasuke came out of the academy Itachi was already a anbu captain lol. How did Sasuke lose half his power? Do yourself a favor and stop watching/readin the series because your obviously a Naruto hater/Sasuke fanboy i dont know how you can like the series but hate the main character lol.
 

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Rofl didn't read. Sasuke is top 10 and a main character he will end up as number 1 or 2. You mad bro?

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That's because his been given power ups in natural talent his nothing special if he didn't get the curse mark from Orochimaru and the MS from Itachi he wouldn't be top 10.

@Naruto9001 dont bother to explain something to him ... hes a blind sasuke fanboy .... cant say anything thats y posted some stupid pic :rolleyes:

btw... You have written atleast some facts ... its way better than other people creatin some stupid threads without fact ( and most of them are --- yeah .. U got that r8 !!! sasuke fanboys are no 1 in that xd )

 

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Lol why should I bother posting you scans :rolleyes: Why do you keep going back to Itachi. Yes Itachi was more talented than Sasuke so what? Obito a failure? Same guy fighting on par with Kakashi after unlocking sharigan. Skipping two stages? That doesn't sound like a failure to me.

Itachi became sick and ill and Sasuke has long surpasssed him when Itachi was 16. Natural talent really? Sasuke lost half his powers and you expect him to fight on par on with the 8 tails. Just do yourself a favor stop talking. U_U
U ri8 ur own manga or what o_O ...

so ur sayin sasuke was only powerful for his cursed seal :D :D ... he lost his cursed seal but got MS ... but poor sasuke .. hes not in the level of Itachi and never can be <3
btw poor brat sasuke was stompped by Bee in that f8 ... i raally liked that :D ... and if karin was not their to provide her chakra to 'suck' ... sasuke would be long dead .... ;)
that also proved y sasuke always depends on 'sucking' .... hes the king of 'suckers' ;)
 
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U ri8 ur own manga or what o_O ...

so ur sayin sasuke was only powerful for his cursed seal :D :D ... he lost his cursed seal but got MS ... but poor sasuke .. hes not in the level of Itachi and never can be <3
btw poor brat sasuke was stompped by Bee in that f8 ... i raally liked that :D ... and if karin was not their to provide her chakra to 'suck' ... sasuke would be long dead .... ;)
that also proved y sasuke always depends on 'sucking' .... hes the king of 'suckers' ;)
Dude plz gtfo will your girly purple font. I already told you Sasuke lost half his powers when he was losing against Bee. When he finally obtained a fraction of his new powers Bee got his ass handed to him.

This should point out that Sasuke is much stronger than the two. If it's that hard to understand what Im saying then, I don't think you're old enough for the internetz there kiddo.
 

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Dude plz gtfo will your girly purple font. I already told you Sasuke lost half his powers when he was losing against Bee. When he finally obtained a fraction of his new powers Bee got his ass handed to him.

This should point out that Sasuke is much stronger than the two. If it's that hard to understand what Im saying then, I don't think you're old enough for the internetz there kiddo.
How many times do i have to repeat myself the MS is a GIVEN power without he wouldn't have survived aganist Bee.
 

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Dude plz gtfo will your girly purple font. I already told you Sasuke lost half his powers when he was losing against Bee. When he finally obtained a fraction of his new powers Bee got his ass handed to him.

This should point out that Sasuke is much stronger than the two. If it's that hard to understand what Im saying then, I don't think you're old enough for the internetz there kiddo.
It seems like you didn't have an answer to my sprinter analogy, does that mean you can't bring yourself to admit sasuke is a drug cheat?

Also what power did he lose half way through the Bee fight? Unless your referring to when he lost Orochimaru's powers after the Itachi fight.
 

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It seems like you didn't have an answer to my sprinter analogy, does that mean you can't bring yourself to admit sasuke is a drug cheat?

Also what power did he lose half way through the Bee fight? Unless your referring to when he lost Orochimaru's powers after the Itachi fight.
Someone already explained that it was never proven Sasuke took drugs and only Tsunades suggestion so I took it as a reason to drop it.

Yes I'm refering to when he lost his powers he asbored from Oro.
 

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Someone already explained that it was never proven Sasuke took drugs and only Tsunades suggestion so I took it as a reason to drop it.

Yes I'm refering to when he lost his powers he asbored from Oro.
So your saying the guy that would do anything to catch up to itachi, wouldn't take drugs if he thought it would make him stronger. The same guy that was with Oro and Kabuto, both experts in drug manufacture.

The same guy that was willing to be possessed by Oro if it would make him strong. A pill doesn't seem like much compared to that, of course he took performance enhancing drugs. He even allowed Oro to make him immune to poisons

Also you kind of just proved my point. Exactly it was Oro's power he was using not his. Did he still have that power when Oro was removed from him, certainly not. It was not his power he was just using it to cheat like he used drugs to cheat.
 

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All of those techs you listed were given techs, So? Obito who was a failure knew it and it took him a month to learn chidori but Naruto learned rasengan which is harder to learn faster and everybody always says Sasuke has more natural talent than Naruto.
First of all, "what the hell are you talking about?" Chidori was a technique taught to Sasuke by Kakashi. I don't think it took Sasuke that long to learn that technique. Because you see Gaara wanting to say something to Sasuke, before they see each other in their match. He respects Sasuke because he knows that he wants power just like Gaara did at that time. Taijutsu was taught to Sasuke most likely through that month. Even Gai and Lee are surprised by Sasuke learning that level of Taijutsu in a month. For all we know, Sasuke learned Chidori 1-2 days before the Chunin Exams. Besides when do you see Kakashi saying that it took one month to learn Chidori? It definitely took him a month to learn his new speed. You sound like a hater! I can write a whole list that can make naruto look mediocre! Stop making lame facts. Killer Bee could of killed Sasuke also, but he didn't kill him exactly. "Killing" means when someone can't breath or open his eyes anymore. Besides he was going up against someone very powerful with perfect control of their tail beast. If Killer Bee didn't have that impressive control, Taka Sasuke would of won with the genjutsu he performed on B. In the end of that fight, Sasuke was clearly figured out that he was still weakened from his battle with Itachi, and he lost his Curse Mark making him even weaker. You go lowering characters with someone else. Sasuke has done things that others don't dare to try.
 
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It seems like you didn't have an answer to my sprinter analogy, does that mean you can't bring yourself to admit sasuke is a drug cheat?

Also what power did he lose half way through the Bee fight? Unless your referring to when he lost Orochimaru's powers after the Itachi fight.
It was never shown that Sasuke took any drugs while training under Orochimaru, and for your sprinter analogy it depends what you define as drugs, would you say vitamin pills or protein supplements as drugs?
 

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So your saying the guy that would do anything to catch up to itachi, wouldn't take drugs if he thought it would make him stronger. The same guy that was with Oro and Kabuto, both experts in drug manufacture.

The same guy that was willing to be possessed by Oro if it would make him strong. A pill doesn't seem like much compared to that, of course he took performance enhancing drugs. He even allowed Oro to make him immune to poisons

Also you kind of just proved my point. Exactly it was Oro's power he was using not his. Did he still have that power when Oro was removed from him, certainly not. It was not his power he was just using it to cheat like he used drugs to cheat.
Sorry no proof. Sasuke took Oros powers it's his now. Sasuke defeated him and took his powers no differnet to how Sasori does things. Oro made Sasuke immune to poisens by exposing it to him. Thats just being a bad/good teacher. It's called training
 

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First of all, "what the hell are you talking about?" Chidori was a technique taught to Sasuke by Kakashi. I don't think it took Sasuke that long to learn that technique. Because you see Gaara wanting to say something to Sasuke, before they see each other in their match. He respects Sasuke because he knows that he wants power just like Gaara did at that time. Taijutsu was taught to Sasuke most likely through that month. Even Gai and Lee are surprised by Sasuke learning that level of Taijutsu in a month. For all we know, Sasuke learned Chidori 1-2 days before the Chunin Exams. Besides when do you see Kakashi saying that it took one month to learn Chidori and his new and improved Taijutsu? It took him definitely a month to learn his new speed. You sound like a hater! I can write a whole list that can make naruto look mediocre!
Like i told alo of other people on this thread copying Lee's taijutsu was part of his Chidori trainning. You sound like a fanboy and your avatar looks like a fanboy's. Then write it.
 

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Sorry no proof. Sasuke took Oros powers it's his now. Sasuke defeated him and took his powers no differnet to how Sasori does things. Oro made Sasuke immune to poisens by exposing it to him. Thats just being a bad/good teacher. It's called training
What would be the point of Kishi putting it in the manga if there wasn't any proof behind it. There is more proof to suggest that he would and did, than him saying "I know these will make me stronger, but I would rather train than take these drugs". If he thinks he will become more powerful he does it.

So by that logic every time naruto took control of the fox's power it was considered his own power, even before he tamed Kurama?

It was never shown that Sasuke took any drugs while training under Orochimaru, and for your sprinter analogy it depends what you define as drugs, would you say vitamin pills or protein supplements as drugs?
But it was heavily implied. Kishi didn't have to put that detail in, it wouldn't have affected the overall story much, but he didn't. Also considering the character there is no reason he wouldn't
- He stated on many, many occasions he was willing to do anything to gain power
- He had previously taken Orochimaru's mind awakening pill, a drug that improved his cursed seal, even though he was told he will possibly die
- He trained under Oro with Kabuto supervising, both of which are experts in ability enhancing drugs

He had motive, a past history of it, and the tools necessary to obtain these drugs. He definitely took them. Also the drug-use was referred to in response to Sasuke's increased ninja ability. I compared them the steroids as these are also performance enhancing drugs.
 
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What would be the point of Kishi putting it in the manga if there wasn't any proof behind it. There is more proof to suggest that he would and did, than him saying "I know these will make me stronger, but I would rather train than take these drugs". If he thinks he will become more powerful he does it.

So by that logic every time naruto took control of the fox's power it was considered his own power, even before he tamed Kurama?
Yeah, he inherited the fox from his father. :shrug:
 

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Like i told alo of other people on this thread copying Lee's taijutsu was part of his Chidori trainning. You sound like a fanboy and your avatar looks like a fanboy's. Then write it.
Actually i have no number one favorites in this manga. I like Sasuke, Naruto, and Itachi the most. Second, that was to enhance his speed. Because if Sasuke didn't learn the taijutsu, he would of had little chance against Gaara. Their is a difference between speed and technique! Sasuke was taught Taijutsu from the beginning after the preliminary rounds were over. Chidori was another jutsu, Kakashi wanted to give Sasuke. Maybe as a recompense of not letting him watch the preliminary rounds. Sasuke didn't even need chidori, honestly. Gaara was getting knock left to right. But i guess for that sand barrier it was useful. You seem to be kissing Naruto's ass because you have a picture of him. :rolleyes:
 

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What would be the point of Kishi putting it in the manga if there wasn't any proof behind it. There is more proof to suggest that he would and did, than him saying "I know these will make me stronger, but I would rather train than take these drugs". If he thinks he will become more powerful he does it.

So by that logic every time naruto took control of the fox's power it was considered his own power, even before he tamed Kurama?


But it was heavily implied. Kishi didn't have to put that detail in, it wouldn't have affected the overall story much, but he didn't. Also considering the character there is no reason he wouldn't
- He stated on many, many occasions he was willing to do anything to gain power
- He had previously taken Orochimaru's mind awakening pill, a drug that improved his cursed seal, even though he was told he will possibly die
- He trained under Oro with Kabuto supervising, both of which are experts in ability enhancing drugs

He had motive, a past history of it, and the tools necessary to obtain these drugs. He definitely took them. Also the drug-use was referred to in response to Sasuke's increased ninja ability. I compared them the steroids as these are also performance enhancing drugs.
This is true. But we don't know if he took that many drugs after the mind awakening pill. Could of, but i'm not 100% sure he did. Sakura assumed he did because of his speed shown when he fought Team 7.
 
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