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Uchiha ODC

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:noc: Chapter was Good but did wanna seee a bit more.

Am I the only one that wants to know where Itachi got Senju DNA from? cause just like using Inzangi you need to possess both Uchiha and Senju DNA just like Danzo needed to used Inzangi
 

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You know how it’s going to work when Sasuke will fight against Naruto. He will use isanagi/nami and against all odds Naruto will be able to change his destiny and to break out of boundaries, the same as he is going to do against Tobi and the same as he did for Neji and other characters.
 

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There could be some problems with izanami. Firstly there are 2 main ways the technique can be done: Everything is happening in real life
or everything is happening in a genjutsu and Kabuto is just standing there(this one is more likely because of the last picture)

If however everything is happening in real life here's the main problem: Kabuto can kill himself(of course he won't for different reasons but IF he would the jutsu would have to end). If he kills himself the loop cannot repeat.

If it's happening in a genjutsu(more likely): The biggest problem is if Kabuto does a releas e of edo tensei in the genjutsu it will not effect the real world since it's happening in a genjutsu. Unless this is how it's done. When Kabuto decides to release the jutsu he simply returns to his real body.

Now to the problems of both versions: In order for a loop to happen one condition has to be met. The end and the begining have to be the same. Meaning the stance/location of itachi and kabuto at the end has to be the same or at least similar than at the begining. Which leads me to believe that Kabuto actually cannot control his body because he could simply change everything with a different attack. Also in both versions it doesn't make sense if Kabuto kills himself. In real life he would die and in genjutsu I guess he would just respawn but that wouldn't make any sense. If he can respawn after killing himself then there is no point in making an endless loop. Because as it seems there wouldn't be an endless loop if kabuto had full control of his body. There would just be a world where you cannot die. What's the purpose of the loop then? My theory is kabuto cannot control his body or is acting instinctivly.

Hopefully there will be an explenation. I am afraid that this jutsu is kind of poorly written.
 

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Lol why are you guys so quick to conclude this battle ending with Kabuto canceling edo-tensei and Sasuke killing Kabuto? Why would kishi even allow that to happen? Allowing the edo to cancel would mean we'd not only lose Itachi but Madara as well and I don't see Madara go back to being dead without a fight when his whole goal from the start was to be revived by Nagato so he can rule the ninja world! So here's my theory.....just before Kabuto admits defeat and ready to cancel edo tensei, Madara is going to show up and kill Kabuto which results in the edo tensei being permanent and Masada now just as free to do what he pleases just like Itachi. Naruto will definitely beat Tobi but he's going to have to join forces with Sasuke to seal Madara since they obviously can't kill him!
 

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As I told u guys itachi is still alive and as far as izanami i guess kabuto would be given the option to release Edo tensei or remain in limbo forever and with both eyes gone he would be no use has Edo soldier. U gooo itachi.
 

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i dont understand the chapter fully. can somebody pls explain. dont know what Itachi did to Kabuto
Itachi did what is probably the most powerfull genjutsu in existance. It's called Izanami as you already know. Without any eye contact Itachi put Kabuto in an endless loop genjutsu. Whenever Kabuto stabs or does anything to itachi he will miss because he is under a genjutsu and itachi will just come out of nowhere and cut his horn of and jump back and the situation will be the same as before. He cannot escape this genjutsu.
 

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Re: This just the latest in a long line of bullshit hax

5 chapters from now we will probably have forgotten all about izanami and focused on how hax madara is or tobi. its just the new hotness. things were so much more exciting and interesting when we first saw sharingan in kakashi vs zabuza. this isnt even sharingan anymore. its just dumping hax illusions on people for the sake of kishi writing himself out of a corner. he made kabuto too powerful and now brings into it a jutsu neither foreshadowed nor ever mentioned before this fight. if its so incredible, why the hell not?
and it presents a gigantic plothole because why didn't itachi just use this shit on tobi? was he hoping the situation would fix itself and the invincible immortal would be taken down SOMEHOW? was saving the world before it began a war not worth a single eye? is there any reason why we need to sit through this when theres far more interesting characters than these damn uchihas spamming powers at each other? why cant we learn more about the things we have heard about but are still mysteries? but now kishi is gonna spend 3 chapters just explaining what the **** this even does.
also how is being trapped in an endless loop supposed to end edo tensei? unless itachi is risking everyones lives by trusting kabuto to do the right thing instead of forcing his eyelids open and tsukiyomi'ing his ass.
im just so tired of this shit and itachi being a blatant mary sue who cant be beaten and is so perfect that every word out of his mouth isnt even debatable since if itachi believes hes right, he must be right.
i wish i joined the fandom in early part 2/late part 1. that was the golden age of naruto. itachi was still a cool evil bastard (not a preachy extremist playing god with peoples lives and commiting mass genocide for delusions of peace), naruto went rip shit riot kyuubi on people instead of being a preachy arrogant douche etc. those were the goddamn days.
at the very least kishi needs to cut away from this and get back to naruto vs tobi, the only remaining interesting fight due to tobis identity.
Well said. It looks like these Uchicha special genjutsus just keep on coming out of nowhere. If Itachi knew about this technique then he should have used it on Tobi but he didn't. Also the hype of Sasuke's EMS was for nothing, he used nothing against Kabuto. I mean if he had some new powers Sasuke would have used it in this battle which he did. So it won't make any sense if Sasuke uses any new powers later on unless some new powers were to be gifted by Itachi to him again.
 

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That´s right, it is a nonsense to make 3 chapters of "flash back", 6 more chapters of "fight", to end this with a "nowhere" jutsu "You are maybe the more powerfull ninja in the world, but i will defeat you by controlling your brain " ... sucks !!!
 

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Re: This just the latest in a long line of bullshit hax

Well said. It looks like these Uchicha special genjutsus just keep on coming out of nowhere. If Itachi knew about this technique then he should have used it on Tobi but he didn't. Also the hype of Sasuke's EMS was for nothing, he used nothing against Kabuto. I mean if he had some new powers Sasuke would have used it in this battle which he did. So it won't make any sense if Sasuke uses any new powers later on unless some new powers were to be gifted by Itachi to him again.
in itachi's defence we do not exactly know what this jutsu does. Maybe it works when someone(the caster or the other person in it) dies the genjutsu ends. And because itachi cannot die unless kabuto releases edo tensei that's the only way. If he made this genjutsu against tobi, tobi could have just killed him
 

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Well izanami is a super strong genjutsu . Tsukiyami or however its spelled is an alll powerful eye technique genjetsu but has to make eye contact. Itachi can make his last as long as he chooses since he controls the time of it. Izanagi requires Senju blood or dna and it was also considered the ultimate illusion . So why didnt danzou use this on sasuke or why didnt Tobi use this on the girl. Tobi didnt think the girl from the rain village had a technique that can actually defeat him so he had to use hiis free life izanagi. Danzou didnt want sasuke in a genjutsu he wantedf him dead plus tobi couldve came and took sasuke and dispelled the genjutsu at the hideout.

So wats the difference ?

izanami doesnt require senju blood. But you need to be near the person your going to use it on them and some time to prepare a loop scenario.

Izanagi is more like a free life. Like a restart if your playing video games from the last save point. So you cast it ready and attack all out and the moment u get hit with a super attack you restart.

Itachi if he had a real body he wouldve died and not pulled it off. So izanami was perfect for his healing puppet body.

Another few things i feel like the reason why Orochimaru went bad is because of Danzou. I feel he learned from his evil ways and was fine with it.

Also i dont get how Danzou or Kakashi couldnt dodge Sasuke's susanno. One got saved cause of izanagi and kakashi said it himself he had to use his Sharingan. Pain was catching up to the speed of cloaked kyuubi forms and couldnt dodge Itachi's susanno ( fine it came outta the smoke ) but Kabuto was dodging them fine in my opinion. I hope naruto doesnt have any trouble doing the same.
 

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Izanami is bullshit ..it just oh so happens to be the most perfect counter jutsu for kabuto ..wtf is kishi thinking creating a hax jutsu like that? I hate itachi but this poses the question who couldn't he defeat with Izanami ..Itachi > basically everyone in narutoverse outside of madara and possibly tobi
 

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Where does it say that izanagi requires senju dna? Danzo required it because he was not uchiha but that does not mean that the technique itself requires it
 

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:noc: Chapter was Good but did wanna seee a bit more.

Am I the only one that wants to know where Itachi got Senju DNA from? cause just like using Inzangi you need to possess both Uchiha and Senju DNA just like Danzo needed to used Inzangi
Nope, he doesnt need senju dna because itachi said himself izanami is the uchihas OWN forbidden tech.
 
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