when was the last time a normal shinobi broke genjutsu?

[~Uzumaki~]

Every genjutsu in Naruto now has to be broken by spectacular means. Just think about it. To break Itachi's finger genjutsu, Naruto needed Sakura and Chiyo's help, to break Shee's light genjutsu Sasuke used Sharingan, to break clam genjutsu they had to kill the clam, now to break Tayuya's genjutsu Itachi needed Tsukuyomi, to break Sasuke's Sharingan genjutsu Deidara needed to 'specially train his eye' to break Tobi's genjutsu on Kurama, Minato needed a sealing technique. What's next? Also, if you don't have any spectacular means you lose. Example, Naruto lost to finger genjutsu when he tried the normal means, Oro lost to Itachi when he tried normal means. Now the normal means doesn't even occur to anybody, Kabuto chose to instead blind himself. What happened to the normal method of breaking genjutsu?

 

[Titania Erza]

Well all the genjutsu users weren't what I could say normal shinobi's with average genjutsu powers.

 

[Frikid]

good point!

genjutsu can't be countered by normal methods

people killing other people without even moving.. just with their eyes..

the speed of a ninja is beyond epicness :shrug:

how worse naruto can get ? :sy:
where are those tactical and taijutsu fights which made me like naruto the most :shrug:

 

[Itachi Minato]

um shikamaru broke his finger to get out of a genjutsu

 

[KAGE RYUU]

tbh i didnt really read what u said but from the title what i say is i hate that genjutsu is such an undefetable move like remeber when jman was shown teachign naruto how to interupt his own chakra to brake it wtf was the point of that as it has never come into play and that time that your talking about with the finger jutsu their is i think when they showed it but it never happens

genjutsu is to op in the naruto verse

 

[Owarij]

Genjutsu is like the strongest of the three skills, and the rarerest according to jiraya . And breaking genjutsu by normal means is LOOKING for death... You will be killed in real life before you can do that... You need to remember that you are standing there lifeless in real life, and all the time it takes to put your hands together and start releasing chakra etc, is death

This is why people use other methods

 

[Stark]

Yeah agreed

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Genjutsu is like the strongest of the three skills, and the rarerest according to jiraya . And breaking genjutsu by normal means is LOOKING for death... You will be killed in real life before you can do that... You need to remember that you are standing there lifeless in real life, and all the time it takes to put your hands together and start releasing chakra etc, is death

This is why people use other methods

it doesn't take time to form 1 seal and flow chakra. Nobody just does it anymore and why should they? It doesn't work anymore. Kakashi cast Sharingan genjutsu on two root members that where watching Naruto and they couldn't break it. Why bother to become as fast as Raikage when all you need is genjutsu? Kishi lied to us that if you stop your chakra and apply greater force, the illusion will end. The last time that worked was Kabuto's genjutsu on the arena. Like 500 chapters ago

 

[Owarij]

it doesn't take time to form 1 seal and flow chakra. Nobody just does it anymore and why should they? It doesn't work anymore. Kakashi cast Sharingan genjutsu on two root members that where watching Naruto and they couldn't break it.

Naruto did the release chakra thing and what happened? it takes more time than you think..., it doesn't take 1 sec, not 2, it's not that fast...

Think of it this way. remember bee? in the recent fight?

Itachi put him in a genjutsu and threw kunai.. IF HACHIBI wasn't there to cancel, and bee had to cancel it by normal means, do you think he was getting out of it fast enough to counter the kunai?

even when hachibi did it, he got out a split second before they hit him.... he would have had 4/5 kunai's in his face before he could break it......Breaking genjutsu that way just takes too long

 

[fastrthnwind]

Anyone skilled with genjustu can kill even the greatest of taijutsu and ninjutsu users just because it takes time realize that they are in one, and then it takes even more time to break out of it. It takes great chakra control to use and great intellect to utilise in the heat of battle

With the exception of Itachi due to sharingan, most other genjutsu users are not very proficent with either ninjutsu or taijutsu. That is why they usually rely on their genjutsu to win it for them.

 

[Dantee]

Genjutsu is ftw. That's why Uchihas are the best. No one can truely solo them.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Naruto did the release chakra thing and what happened? it takes more time than you think..., it doesn't take 1 sec, not 2, it's not that fast...

Think of it this way. remember bee? in the recent fight?

Itachi put him in a genjutsu and threw kunai.. IF HACHIBI wasn't there to cancel, and bee had to cancel it by normal means, do you think he was getting out of it fast enough to counter the kunai?

even when hachibi did it, he got out a split second before they hit him.... he would have had 4/5 kunai's in his face before he could break it......Breaking genjutsu that way just takes too long

considering that he had time to bring out Samehada, say 'wee Samehada', arrange seven swords on different section of his body, I think he can form 1 seal, break the genjutsu and leap away. What about the pain method? Inducing pain that doesn't come from the genjutsu in order to break it. Kishi has trolled that method with Hashirama's genjutsu of darkness, KA where Itachi was blasted back by Nagato with great force, had his limbs cut off and he's still under KA.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

Genjutsu and a attack afterwards has never killed any top tier shinobi because most shinobi at top tier will have counters for it.If Genjutsu was as powerful as some mainly uchiha fanboys make out the uchiha wouldn't be rivals to the Senju because they can just genjutsu them and its over because they haven't got the sharringan.

Counters for Genjutsu=Dojutsu Mastery,Tailed Beast Host or disturbing your own chakra somehow.

 

[Owarij]

Anyone skilled with genjustu can kill even the greatest of taijutsu and ninjutsu users just because it takes time realize that they are in one, and then it takes even more time to break out of it.

Yup, this is what i;m saying


A good genjutsu user first simulates everything to look just like reality, so the person doesn't even know they are in a genjutsu until something Pops out, like red moons, or crows etc...

If bee didn't have hachibi , he was obviously going to be impaled by those shruiken...it's too slow using the other method,

considering that he had time to bring out Samehada, say 'wee Samehada', arrange seven swords on different section of his body, I think he can form 1 seal, break the genjutsu and leap away

When naruto did the method, formed the seal, you know it didn't happen instantly right? he was still pouring chakra out..

Genjutsu and a attack afterwards has never killed any top tier shinobi because most shinobi at top tier will have counters for it.If Genjutsu was as powerful as some mainly uchiha fanboys make out the uchiha wouldn't be rivals to the Senju because they can just genjutsu them and its over because they haven't got the sharringan.

Counters for Genjutsu=Dojutsu Mastery,Tailed Beast Host or disturbing your own chakra somehow.

HOW many people have used genjutsu in this manga to fight?
Itachi would have pulled it off on orochimaru if he wanted to kill him... Instead he aimed at his hand instead of neck.. then he told him all his jutsu fail infront of his eyes....

that was the perfect example of a genjutsu master capable of 1shotting a kage level ninja..

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Yup, this is what i;m saying


A good genjutsu user first simulates everything to look just like reality, so the person doesn't even know they are in a genjutsu until something Pops out, like red moons, or crows etc...

If bee didn't have hachibi , he was obviously going to be impaled by those shruiken...it's too slow using the other method,




When naruto did the method, formed the seal, you know it didn't happen instantly right? he was still pouring chakra out..




HOW many people have used genjutsu in this manga to fight?
Itachi would have pulled it off on orochimaru if he wanted to kill him... Instead he aimed at his hand instead of neck.. then he told him all his jutsu fail infront of his eyes....

that was the perfect example of a genjutsu master capable of 1shotting a kage level ninja..

what about when Kakashi and Guy used it for Kabuto's genjutsu? And I've edited my post.

 

[Raito]

Yes Twedros, Kakashi and Orochimaru weren't top tier shinobis.
And to correct you, the Sharingan grant you the ability to see through illusions, the Rinnegan itself isn't known for such a thing.

 

[Owarij]

what about when Kakashi and Guy used it for Kabuto's genjutsu? And I've edited my post.

kabuto's genjutsu? the feather thing? got the page?

 

[fastrthnwind]

I don't really count the uchiha as true genjutsu users as they have the sharingan which grants them the ability to see through genjutsu and even implement genjutsu with the sharingan alone.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

kabuto's genjutsu? the feather thing? got the page?

cant post links now. Search it yourself.

 

[Raito]

I don't really count the uchiha as true genjutsu users as they have the sharingan which grants them the ability to see through genjutsu and even implement genjutsu with the sharingan alone.

There aren't much Ninjas who become really strong just from training and improving themselves. Actually Gai, Jiraiya, Orochimaru & co. would be the strongest if we're not going by Kekkei Kenkais or Bijus who have improved the users skills.