I think I understand Izanami

[Kwalker394]

Ok now here me out. In the manga it seems like its in a complete cycle of kabuto and Itachi fighting and kabuto noticed it. So I believe Izanami is a lock for two people to battle forever untill the caster of izanami release it. Im doing this from my phone so I will update this later with more of my theory. So tell me what u guys think.

 

[Viewtiful]

The whole loop takes place in Kabuto's mind, as evidenced by the fact that the Itachi he's fighting has both MSes, while the one with his hand on Kabuto's head has only one after activating Izanami this chapter.

 

[Volcanikage]

This is what i think about izanami it put you in a loop with you enemy but only the move that the uchiha does(itachi) would be repeating. But kabuto can get out by just simply defeating itachi. Itachi is an edo unless he seal itachi he would be trap inside izanami. The other thing is because of it kabuto may need to turn off edo tensei to stop itachi since he cant get tired or anything but kabuto getting mentally tired.

But is not all that strong kabuto will get out of it easy but what i do believe is that this is Orochimaru time to take over

 

[bruce lee was uchiha]

izanami is a genjutsu that desides destiny. It does whatever the caster of it decides, in this case itachi used it to put kabuto into a never ending fight loop where itachi keeps coming out on top. Its not specifically a lock for 2 people to battle forever.

 

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[Jayaraman MinatoItachi]

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[Viewtiful]

izanami is a genjutsu that desides destiny. It does whatever the caster of it decides, in this case itachi used it to put kabuto into a never ending fight loop where itachi keeps coming out on top. Its not specifically a lock for 2 people to battle forever.

The loop takes place in Kabuto's mind. And it doesn't do WHATEVER the caster wants it to do, that's stupid. It's effect is obviously what's happening to Kabuto right now and we'll see the result of that next week.

 

[bruce lee was uchiha]

the genjutsu that decides destiny... keyword being decides. I am pretty sure izanami wasnt described as the genjutsu that puts people into time loops. Itachi used izanami in a way where it wouldnt kill kabuto and it would force him to release the edo tensei. Itachi chose his destiny and now kabuto is left with 2 options. release the edo or commit suicide.

 

[Uchiha Karou]

the genjutsu that decides destiny... keyword being decides. I am pretty sure izanami wasnt described as the genjutsu that puts people into time loops. Itachi used izanami in a way where it wouldnt kill kabuto and it would force him to release the edo tensei. Itachi chose his destiny and now kabuto is left with 2 options. release the edo or commit suicide.

EXACTLY! I hate how people assume Izanami puts you in time loops. +Rep

 

[Kwalker394]

EXACTLY! I hate how people assume Izanami puts you in time loops. +Rep

Considering Itachi himself said its a "loop" and since it does repeat itself over and over again its a form of time loop. Obviously you havnt read the manga or you would have seen it

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the genjutsu that decides destiny... keyword being decides. I am pretty sure izanami wasnt described as the genjutsu that puts people into time loops. Itachi used izanami in a way where it wouldnt kill kabuto and it would force him to release the edo tensei. Itachi chose his destiny and now kabuto is left with 2 options. release the edo or commit suicide.

But is it dosnt have to be described as the genjutsu that puts people into time loops. Its still the effect that we have just seen in this manga

izanami is a genjutsu that desides destiny. It does whatever the caster of it decides, in this case itachi used it to put kabuto into a never ending fight loop where itachi keeps coming out on top. Its not specifically a lock for 2 people to battle forever.

No just, just no. so much flaw in this :flaw:

 

[Uchiha Karou]

Considering Itachi himself said its a "loop" and since it does repeat itself over and over again its a form of time loop. Obviously you havnt read the manga or you would have seen it

Ok no i meant how people assume that Izanami is a technique that puts someone in a loop. All we know about Izanami is that it decides destiny. You cant assume that deciding destiny can only be done by the method of putting someone in a loop. That could be one way to decide destiny not the only way. (in Izanami) maybe you should stop thinking that your opinion is exactly what is going to happen. Your not kishi so just wait and see how the manga explains the jutsu instead of creating your own answers.

 

[Sage6paths]

Guys, lets keep things simple. Itachi said he need to stop edo tensei and izanami was used. So the outcome is simple, edo tensei will be stop unless kishi decides otherwise. Loop or no loop, itachi most prob can win this. But lets not forget sasuke is there too, he hasnt showcase his skills vs kabuto... We shall see.

 

[irukaumino26]

I truly believe Izanami puts the victim in a never-ending genjutsu until they do what the caster wants. Kabuto will never escape Izanami unless he releases Edo Tensei. If he doesn't, then he'll just die in due time.

Itachi is not actually fighting Kabuto in Izanami. Kabuto is imagining this fight in his mind. It's obvious because when they're fighting, Itachi has both eyes. But at the end when his hand is on Kabuto, he only has 1 eye. Sasuke and Itachi are not fighting in Izanami, but Kabuto is.

 

[Sage6paths]

Izanami will force kabuto to release edo tensei. If he release it, izanami stops, edo stops. But if kabuto activate edo again, itachi might be revive and make the izanami loop again. Its up to kabuto now to stop all edo. I hope its this way.

 

[Kwalker394]

Ok no i meant how people assume that Izanami is a technique that puts someone in a loop. All we know about Izanami is that it decides destiny. You cant assume that deciding destiny can only be done by the method of putting someone in a loop. That could be one way to decide destiny not the only way. (in Izanami) maybe you should stop thinking that your opinion is exactly what is going to happen. Your not kishi so just wait and see how the manga explains the jutsu instead of creating your own answers.

Maybe you should GTFO my thread then I am going by FACTS from the manga. Believe it or not thats up to you but the fact is, is that Itachi himself said it was a "loop" that Kabuto couldnt break out of. So by going on that and other FACTS from the manga Izanami=Loop. It dosnt matter if its not the only way or its just one way the fact is, is that Itachi made it like that so :flaw:

No one said I was Kishi smart one If you obviously cant read this thread says "I think I understand Izanami" and plus I added at the very beginning of my thread "So I believe Izanami is a lock for two people to battle forever untill the caster of izanami release it." Key word "BELIEVE" This is my opinion that I came up with from the FACTS from the manga. Read every once and while and maybe you can catch on :flaw:

 

[bruce lee was uchiha]

your thread was about how you "understood izanami" ... thats what you labeled it correct? clearly in the thread you are just trying to explain how itachi used izanami rather then focusing on the genjutsu itself. If some one got cut in half or if someone got hit by amaterasu it really doesnt matter, izanagi would change that reality... it doesnt matter how it happens the jutsu has the same ability. In the same token it doesnt matter how itachi decided kabuto's destiny he still used izanami, the genjutsu introduced as the technique that decides destiny. Proving the points made by uchiha karou and myself.
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U_U

 

[Kwalker394]

your thread was about how you "understood izanami" ... thats what you labeled it correct? clearly in the thread you are just trying to explain how itachi used izanami rather then focusing on the genjutsu itself. If some one got cut in half or if someone got hit by amaterasu it really doesnt matter, izanagi would change that reality... it doesnt matter how it happens the jutsu has the same ability. In the same token it doesnt matter how itachi decided kabuto's destiny he still used izanami, the genjutsu introduced as the technique that decides destiny. Proving the points made by uchiha karou and myself.
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U_U

"your thread was about how you "understood izanami" ... thats what you labeled it correct?"

Clearly you missed the "I think" part in my title I never once said anything different from what you posted above so fail :sy:

 

[Prime Rib]

no the user controls the loop against the oppenent. the user isnt caught in it. its all in the enemys head the only way for the jutsu to end is if kabuto makes a descion