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kid kakashi high dif
I'm bringing rank into it because Neji wasn't promoted when he displayed his power and Kakashi was. rank was a big deal in Part 1 believe it or not, AKA 2 tokubetsu jonin was a difficult fight for Sound 4 and any basic Jonin was considered top of the top elite shinobi. Kakashi was promoted to Jonin at that point, whether I sound desperate or not it's fact, and he didn't even have sharingan at that point.
With that aside Kakashi's got Chidori, Rasengan etc.
What will Neji do against Chidori or Rasengan? He can't dodge without running into another bunshin or Kakashi, that's basically his fighting style. You act like he's immune to being caught off guard which is bullcrap because he was so confident he defeated Naruto, only to have him poof and the real one punched him from below. If it's near 360 degrees it sure did a bad job at finding Naruto underground, and hey that's basically one of Kakashi's techniques that he uses most often a doton.
It's cool he doesn't even need them really but they easily overpower anything Neji has, he hides underground and his clone fights Neji, even if he does finally kill him poof and he takes an unexpected Rasengan/Chidori.
I think he can outlast him fine, hell Neji doesn't even have a way to reach him if he goes into underground w/ Doton
Wut? Unpredictable? It's extremely linear and predictable, and it was never ever hinted that it was anything otherwise. It's straight up taijutsu and nothing more anyway, aside from that Kakashi has the advantage in every possible way.
You act like Kakashi is just a sitting duck and is incapable of moving to dodge or fight back against any of Neji's tech, it goes both ways my friend.
How? When all his opponents were genin level.Rank is important if speaking generally but not in a vs thread it isnt, neji was more impressive as a kid than kid kakashi whichever way you look at it. I go by what ive seen and not just rank
How? When all his opponents were genin level.
What's funny is that you compare someone who has almost 0development in the mangas and his only development he has is when he is fighting against elite ninjas(and he has beaten a jounin pretty much easily btw) with someone who had enough time of development by fighting against genin level ninja. But if you look at Neji right now in part2, he was almost beaten like a little baby against Kisame. Does that mean he is weak? No, that's what is called "difference of level". This is jounin level:People who favour kid kakashi look desperate when they try and bring rank into this to make it sound as if because that means anything. Look at the current genins (sasuke and naruto) and tell me if rank means anything. Tbh its just as bad as those who say because so and so is a kage they can beat anybody. Rank hardly mean anything. Id even go as far as saying kid neji wouldve faired alot better than kid kakashi during the 3rd war
What's funny is that you compare someone who has almost 0development in the mangas and his only development he has is when he is fighting against elite ninjas(and he has beaten a jounin pretty much easily btw) with someone who had enough time of development by fighting against genin level ninja. But if you look at Neji right now in part2, he was almost beaten like a little baby against Kisame. Does that mean he is weak? No, that's what is called "difference of level". This is jounin level:You must be registered for see images
He didn't even had time to react.
I'm not saying all jonin have the same level, but that jonin itself is already a level. Yes there are some exceptions of genin who are stronger than their level(like Sasuke or Naruto currently), but at that moment, Neji wasn't at jonin level. That's what i think and say. He was even barely chunin level. Kakashi was maybe a low jonin like you say, and didn't had enough experience, but he was jonin level at least(proof is that he has beaten a powerful jonin pretty much easily). Kurenai for example also was just nominated as a jonin at that time, so she was inexperienced also, but like you can see on my pic, she reacted so fast that Neji didn't even noticed Byakugan activated. The one infront of him wasn't even jonin level. He was a tokubetsu jonin, meaning that he is on a level between chunin and jonin, but you can see how fast he react also. So Neji was maybe strong, but strong for his level.Im not here to get into rank issues because it thats the only argument that kakashi supports have then im not interested ,it just isnt good enough of an argument. Anyway there are many forms of jonin. Kid kakashi became a jonin the day before they went on the mission i believe therefore although a jonin, he is low jonin or high chunnin. His inexperience massively showed, just because he is jonin doesnt mean he stands equal to every other jonin, unless you are trying to say kid kakshi jonin is the same level as current kakashi jonin.
I'm not saying all jonin have the same level, but that jonin itself is already a level. Yes there are some exceptions of genin who are stronger than their level(like Sasuke or Naruto currently), but at that moment, Neji wasn't at jonin level. That's what i think and say. He was even barely chunin level. Kakashi was maybe a low jonin like you say, and didn't had enough experience, but he was jonin level at least(proof is that he has beaten a powerful jonin pretty much easily). Kurenai for example also was just nominated as a jonin at that time, so she was inexperienced also, but like you can see on my pic, she reacted so fast that Neji didn't even noticed Byakugan activated. The one infront of him wasn't even jonin level. He was a tokubetsu jonin, meaning that he is on a level between chunin and jonin, but you can see how fast he react also. So Neji was maybe strong, but strong for his level.
Wtf is this? So you want to say base Naruto and Neji were already stronger than Kakashi in part1?? Please don't say nonsense. Underestimating has a limit.
Firstly, when did Kakashi said that Neji would have beaten Sasuke? It was before he trained him by giving him super speed like Lee and chidori. I think Sasuke has surpassed Neji at that time, or at least they had the same level.Actually it was said that neji was the strongest genin during the chunnin exam and gai his sensei echoed this when he said he will most likely come out on top in the exams. Secondly sasuke was said to be chunnin level anyway and kakashi himself said that neji will wipe the floor with sasuke. Neji during the chunnin exam was chunnin level.
Just like how you talk of the other jonins that stopped neji, those jonins would more or less do the same to kid kakashi
Firstly, when did Kakashi said that Neji would have beaten Sasuke? It was before he trained him by giving him super speed like Lee and chidori. I think Sasuke has surpassed Neji at that time, or at least they had the same level.
Secondly, don't compare Neji with kid Kakashi. We've already seen that he was capable to react easily against jonin who were even stronger than that tokubetsu jonin i think. Just see how fast he formed a chidori here and killed this one:You must be registered for see images
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Firstly, when did Kakashi said that Neji would have beaten Sasuke? It was before he trained him by giving him super speed like Lee and chidori. I think Sasuke has surpassed Neji at that time, or at least they had the same level.
Secondly, don't compare Neji with kid Kakashi. We've already seen that he was capable to react easily against jonin who were even stronger than that tokubetsu jonin i think. Just see how fast he formed a chidori here and killed this one:Emperor Excite just see my pic and you will see the one he killed soloYou must be registered for see images
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Kakko the one Kakashi defeated is said to be a strong jonin level of Iwagakure who excelled in all areas abilities(nin-gen-tai). This is the link:[/SPOILER]
Kakashi said this and i cannot be bothered to upload the manga link. Secondly jonins from different villages will have different levels or pass rate, might be easier to get the jonin tag in one village than the other, konoha jonins, the more experienced one's are usually stronger than other village jonins. Thirdly kakashi dispersed a clone i believe and if it wasnt for minato, who knows what couldve happened to kakashi.
Nice with the links and all but we are going off topic, rank alone doesnt warrant a good enough argument for me.
Kakko the one Kakashi defeated is said to be a strong jonin level of Iwagakure who excelled in all areas abilities(nin-gen-tai). This is the link:You must be registered for see links
Emperor Excite i don't see where he was saved by Obito. Obito just gave Kakashi time to crush him. That doesn't mean he saved him.
He was saved by Minato though, cuz at that moment he couldn't control his jutsu very well. Like Minato said, he was too fast that he couldn't see when the opponents attacked and react quickly.
That means nothing. Kakashi could have probably block his attack, but will have lose the opportunity to finish him at that time. Obito helped him to take his chance and finish him at that time.The man was aiming for kakashi's head obito seen it and rescued that's only the first rescue.
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That means nothing. Kakashi could have probably block his attack, but will have lose the opportunity to finish him at that time. Obito helped him to take his chance and finish him at that time.
Or he could have also avoid the attack. Who knows? It won't be the first time we will see ninjas avoiding attacks at the last moment. Like here also:A grown kakashi would have blocked that or atleast 16 yr old kakashi, you seen were kakashi aimed for the arm really ??? yeah ok buddy the dude was head hunting kakashi block that rofl
Or he could have also avoid the attack. Who knows? It won't be the first time we will see ninjas avoiding attacks at the last moment. Like here also:Itachi already had his feet on Kurenais head, but she had time to guard herself. How are you sure about something that hasn't even taken place?You must be registered for see images
Having the upper hand doesn't mean he got saved. We don't know what would have happen. It's really funny that you still talk about that as if it was a fact.There's a reason why i'm sure the guy clearly had the upper hand until kakashi got the sharingan and obito help him twice. kakashi came back swinging in the same manner not the exact some similar.
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That itachi scence do you really want me to explain that???