[Spoilers] Chapter 585 Tsukiyomi
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Uchiha Frasstonian
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ur speakiing prime nonsense. its just genjutsu normal and plain genjutsu. remember zetsu said the sharingan is a weapon and a weapon is only as good as its user. the world knows sasuke trained his sharingan/genjutsu skills in order to beat itachi because the world knows that itachi is a genjutsu fighter.
c'mon son get tha f*** outta here with that bull s***!
Sasuno Tsawaki
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Re: Sasuke doesn't have Tsukiyomi
The genjustsu used on killer bee was a genjustsu to stop the opponent Danzo? Tobi said it was a minor genjustsu? LAST chapter?! it said Itachi used tysukimami while sasuke used a genjustu >_> you sir are misleading
Sasuno Tsawaki
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WTH you cant suck using tsuikynumi... its the strongest genjustu thats not a kinjustu and like you can make an opponent get hit by enourmos meteors for 999 hours but itll cost your life xD. And sorry but im going to have to spam stupid replys so Admins plz let me do so....
Om Goodness WHAT, Itachi Said you have to Unlock the two Powers not Master them! Also saskue has Tsukuyomi, He juss not good at it. Danzo said it was a "Far Cry" from Itachi's which still means he has It!
Re: Sasuke doesn't have Tsukiyomi
Wrong. Sharingan is a dojutso and tsukuyomi is a sharingan genjutsu (one of them). You can't use tsukuyomi if you don't have MS so it's pretty clear that it is an eye jutsu. Since Sasuke has Itachi's eyes, then there's no need to argue if he has tsukuyomi or not. Itachi's eye can use tsukuyomi and his eyes was transferred to Sasuke, so how come Sasuke doesn't have tsukuyomi? Doesn't make sense.
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Sasuke doesn't have Tsukiyomi.. Killer Bee broke out of Sasuke's Genjutsu, if it was Tsukiyomi he would require the sharingan to get out of it. Danzo's was clearly not Tsukiyomi, Tobi said that the genjutsu Sasuke used was weak.
Sasuke has tsukyomi but he doesnt use it cos he hasnt mastered it... he prefers normal sharingan genjutsu bcos it has lesser risk to d user unlike tsukyomi which backfires if ur opponent manages to break out of it. so therefore tsukyomi risks d user being weakened if broken, so sasuke doesnt use it.... He hasnt even had his MS as long as Itachi so dont expect him to come up with techniques that are so high even though Itachi transferred his Ocular power to him.
Jyuubislayer
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I think sasuke can use tsukiyomi according to this
"Sasuke can also perform Tsukuyomi with his right eye, though his illusion is considered inferior to Itachi's Tsukuyomi since it does not alter the opponent's perception of time indicating he has yet to master it."
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But who knows?
I honestly see your point of view but maybe things will become more clear as the story progresses. It is a fact that Sasuke's genjutsu isn't as good as Itachi's, which could explain the tsukiyomi having a different appearance under Sasuke.
NarutoVsGoku
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Re: Sasuke doesn't have Tsukiyomi
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when Sasuke used genjutsu on Bee and Danzo the background was black and white. every single time Itachi used it the background was black and white. and your saying "its nothing like tuskiyomi?".... how old are you? am i argueing with a some dumbass kid with elementary reading level?
everyone who thinks Sasuke cant use Tsukiyomi has failed to miss that Danzo compared Itachi's ability to use Tsukiyomi with Sasukes and pointed out that Itachi can control time and space and compared to "Itachi's Tsukiyomi" Sasuke basically sucked. even Tobi said that compared to Itachi's Sasukes Tsukiyolmi is "a weak genjutsu".... you guys dont understand that Sasukes tsukiyomi is weak compared to Itachis.
just like how Jiraiyas sage mode is "weak", or incomplete, or inferioir (call it whatever you want) compared to Naruto who mastered it. but when Jiraiaya uses his incomplete sage mode we dont say that its not sage mode just because Naruto is better at sage mode than jiraiya than we? no we dont.
so just cuz its different doesnt mean its not Tsukiyomi, and i proved that in my thread. and if you cant understand this by now than please just give up on life because you will never amount to nothing with your limited iq
and i called you a bitch cuz you tried to adress me but hid who you were adressing, like a bitch...
NOT ONLY THAT!!!! BUT..... Tsukiyomi was always done with a MS and ONE MS eye focused upon. this pattern was consistent everytime Tsukiyomi was used. black and white, MS, 1 eye. this pattern continued with Sasuke when fighting Bee and Danzo. so like i said earlier if it looks like a pig, smells like a pig and oinks like a pig than its a pig. if theres black and white, MS and 1 eye being focused (that is the opposite of the amaterasu eye) than most likely it is a Tsukiyomi.
now you asking me to show proof where it was said Tsukiyomi requires black and white just goes to show that in between your ears is void unoccupied space....
i even mentioned Sasukes fight with Itachi and pointed out that the black and white background was not shown at first but yet IT WAS STILL SHOWN. so to answer your question (which you actually answered yourself.... fail) is yes black and white was shown in the fight between sasuke and itachi....
now you will say "well it was shown later" (noob voice)... and fact of the matter is it was still shown so whether it black and white background was seen sooner or later is irrelevant, the fact that it was shown not only proved it to be Tsukiyomi, but it was consistent with all the times Tsukiyomi was used.
butt hurt? you havent disproven or proven a thing, you dont even have a basic concept of why it is plausible that Sasuke has used tsukiyomi in the past. and the fact that you advocate that Sasuke "does not have it" is what gets me because Sasuke now has Itachis eyes so since Itachi was a beast at genjutsu with his eyes, and a beast at using Tsukiyomi, and Sasuke has Itachis eyes, than how the fuk do you conclude that Sasuke can not use it?
thats like Yamato getting Hashirama dna but yet he cant use wood style, or Danzo getting Shisuis eye and cant use the "control people" genjutsu.
and i know i make sense, others know i make sense, but when i argue with dense, stubborn, stupid people like you, i know you know i make sense. your arguements are getting desperate and pathetic. i have seen you talk about this with others who basically said the same thing i did but said it to you more "kindly" and you agreed with them. but you wont agree with me, you wont except what i say, nor admit that i am right or at least that what im saying is plausible. your pathetic. just argueing to hold on to your diginity and pride. your like a drunkard who says that hes fit to drive. just admit it that your wrong and im right. i dont feel like adressing your lame and noobish arguements anymore.
my shitty thread>this thread.. lol u mad?:shrug:
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nothing like tsukiyomi? are you fukkin retarded? like seriously mental? i went in to full detail why Sasuke has tsukiyomi in my thread. did you honestly read it? please answer yes or no if you honestly read it. dont be a bitch and avoid the question either, man up and answer if you honestly read what i wrote cuz i know you saw the thread bitch-boy.
when Sasuke used genjutsu on Bee and Danzo the background was black and white. every single time Itachi used it the background was black and white. and your saying "its nothing like tuskiyomi?".... how old are you? am i argueing with a some dumbass kid with elementary reading level?
um no..... Danzo made it very clear that "Itachi's Tsukiyomi" can control time and space. see this is where you fail to understand that Itachi and Sasuke are at different levels at using Tsukiyomi. because of Danzo.
everyone who thinks Sasuke cant use Tsukiyomi has failed to miss that Danzo compared Itachi's ability to use Tsukiyomi with Sasukes and pointed out that Itachi can control time and space and compared to "Itachi's Tsukiyomi" Sasuke basically sucked. even Tobi said that compared to Itachi's Sasukes Tsukiyolmi is "a weak genjutsu".... you guys dont understand that Sasukes tsukiyomi is weak compared to Itachis.
just like how Jiraiyas sage mode is "weak", or incomplete, or inferioir (call it whatever you want) compared to Naruto who mastered it. but when Jiraiaya uses his incomplete sage mode we dont say that its not sage mode just because Naruto is better at sage mode than jiraiya than we? no we dont.
so just cuz its different doesnt mean its not Tsukiyomi, and i proved that in my thread. and if you cant understand this by now than please just give up on life because you will never amount to nothing with your limited iq
and i called you a bitch cuz you tried to adress me but hid who you were adressing, like a bitch...
well if it looks like a pig, smells like a pig, and oinks like a pig than its obviously a pig right? we saw Itachi demonstrate Tsukiyomi 5 times now. how do i know? because i actually went back to the manga and looked up every single time. prove of my work is in my thread. and every time Itachi did Tsukiyomi there was a black and white background. sooooooo one would be right to assume that Tsukiyomi has the characteristic of a black and white back ground.
NOT ONLY THAT!!!! BUT..... Tsukiyomi was always done with a MS and ONE MS eye focused upon. this pattern was consistent everytime Tsukiyomi was used. black and white, MS, 1 eye. this pattern continued with Sasuke when fighting Bee and Danzo. so like i said earlier if it looks like a pig, smells like a pig and oinks like a pig than its a pig. if theres black and white, MS and 1 eye being focused (that is the opposite of the amaterasu eye) than most likely it is a Tsukiyomi.
now you asking me to show proof where it was said Tsukiyomi requires black and white just goes to show that in between your ears is void unoccupied space....
i even mentioned Sasukes fight with Itachi and pointed out that the black and white background was not shown at first but yet IT WAS STILL SHOWN. so to answer your question (which you actually answered yourself.... fail) is yes black and white was shown in the fight between sasuke and itachi....
now you will say "well it was shown later" (noob voice)... and fact of the matter is it was still shown so whether it black and white background was seen sooner or later is irrelevant, the fact that it was shown not only proved it to be Tsukiyomi, but it was consistent with all the times Tsukiyomi was used.
actually no... i dont call people who disagree with me dumb or retarded. i only call dumb or retarded people dumb or retarded. you dumb retard... And if it looks like a *****, smells like a *****, has 2 pair of lips and bleeds for 7 days then its a *****. And you sir i havent called you one but you got 4 lips and get extremely hormonal once a month and thats not my fault....
butt hurt? you havent disproven or proven a thing, you dont even have a basic concept of why it is plausible that Sasuke has used tsukiyomi in the past. and the fact that you advocate that Sasuke "does not have it" is what gets me because Sasuke now has Itachis eyes so since Itachi was a beast at genjutsu with his eyes, and a beast at using Tsukiyomi, and Sasuke has Itachis eyes, than how the fuk do you conclude that Sasuke can not use it?
thats like Yamato getting Hashirama dna but yet he cant use wood style, or Danzo getting Shisuis eye and cant use the "control people" genjutsu.
and i know i make sense, others know i make sense, but when i argue with dense, stubborn, stupid people like you, i know you know i make sense. your arguements are getting desperate and pathetic. i have seen you talk about this with others who basically said the same thing i did but said it to you more "kindly" and you agreed with them. but you wont agree with me, you wont except what i say, nor admit that i am right or at least that what im saying is plausible. your pathetic. just argueing to hold on to your diginity and pride. your like a drunkard who says that hes fit to drive. just admit it that your wrong and im right. i dont feel like adressing your lame and noobish arguements anymore.
sucking d!cks? lol bitch please. you mad cuz thats what your mother does for a living? please dont project your ill mannered feelings about your mother towards me sir.
my shitty thread>this thread.. lol u mad?:shrug:
told my ass? lol seriously? i find it crazy that the noobs agree with this idea and seeing you having just join this month just proves my point that noobs agree with this idea of Sasuke not having Tsukiyomi lol xd
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NarutoKage2
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Re: Sasuke doesn't have Tsukiyomi
I read the whole of your shitty thread, and disproved it. And terrible insults lol, get a grip , son. You fail at flaming, i could give you lessons, if you suck up to me and beg me. But hey, you are the expert when it comes to sucking up to people, are'nt you? Like how you kissed my ass, crying and begging for forgiveness about that EMR guy who flamed your sorry ass.
That has to be one of the stupidest lies i ever heard. Danzo did'nt say sh!t about Sasuke's weak ability to use tsukuyomi, he said Sasuke's GENJUTSU illusion was nothing compared to Itachi's tsukuyomi.
Tsukuyomi is a specific type of illusion, it was used by Itachi to put people under genjutsu for what felt like 3 days in an instant in the real world.
Boy you sure are one dumb fck, kid.
If you don't understand this,and make a stupid reply, then don't . You will only make yourself look like a bigger fool than you already are.
Lol whats that son? Is that what your parents told you? I would'nt be surprised, you are quite dumb.
NaruVsGoku the ass kissing hypocrite, everyone, have a laugh at this two faced fool .
Ha haha Looked in the mirror? Thought you had run out (like a b!tch) on me there, guess i'm that good.
I read the whole of your shitty thread, and disproved it. And terrible insults lol, get a grip , son. You fail at flaming, i could give you lessons, if you suck up to me and beg me. But hey, you are the expert when it comes to sucking up to people, are'nt you? Like how you kissed my ass, crying and begging for forgiveness about that EMR guy who flamed your sorry ass.
Never stated , try again . No one said or implied that Sasuke's tech is tsukuyomi.
Where does he say that you fool?
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That has to be one of the stupidest lies i ever heard. Danzo did'nt say sh!t about Sasuke's weak ability to use tsukuyomi, he said Sasuke's GENJUTSU illusion was nothing compared to Itachi's tsukuyomi.
Tsukuyomi is a specific type of illusion, it was used by Itachi to put people under genjutsu for what felt like 3 days in an instant in the real world.
Boy you sure are one dumb fck, kid.
Terrible example. Tsukuyomi is a specific tech, its a specific illusion that only Itachi knew how to use. Like rasengan and rasenshuriken, both are specific techniques and although you need to know rasengan to learn rasenshuriken, its possible to know rasengan and not know shit about rasenshuriken, which is a specific tech. Because its an advanced form of the rasengan. According to your bs logic, both Minato and Jiraiya can use the rasen shuriken.
If you don't understand this,and make a stupid reply, then don't . You will only make yourself look like a bigger fool than you already are.
I already explained to you why its not the same tech, how many times i gotta repeat myself?
Lol whats that son? Is that what your parents told you? I would'nt be surprised, you are quite dumb.
Talking about a bitch, here's one right here:
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NaruVsGoku the ass kissing hypocrite, everyone, have a laugh at this two faced fool .
Typhon Uchiha
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This also helps prove another thing, if a perfect jinchuriki gets hit by tsukiyomi then they are down for the count. No "but bee escaped sasukes", itachi can still potentially beat Naruto and Bee in a 1 v 1.
takiyacrowz
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NarutoVsGoku
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Re: Sasuke doesn't have Tsukiyomi
You quoted half my comment and addressed minor points and left out crucial ones like the arguement of tsukiyomi being black and white
You didnt say nothing on that. So i guess you cant address it and im right
And i gave the manga pages in my thread where danzo is comparing sasukes genjutsu to itachi. You giving me pages and saying "prove it" like a moron is not helping your arguements cuz those arent the only pages im talking about. you might as well posted pages of One Piece and ask me to prove it. when Danzo said "thats nothing compared to Itachi's Tsukiyomi, who could control time and space" he is implying that Sasuke is not only using Tsukiyomi, but Itachi's version is better because Itachi could control time and space.
Again how many times i have to explain it to you Danzo made it clear that Itachi was gifted and he was able to control time and space with tsukiyomi. That doesnt mean Sasuke can either. if fact Sasuke cannot control time and space with Tsukiyomi, but that doesnt mean Sasuke isnt using Tsukiyomi. And it was said Sasukes genjutsu is weak but what is tsukiyomi, a genjutsu is it not? How many times are you going to embarass yourself?
Again you prove your failure. Tsukiyomi is part of a kg! Rasengan and rasenshuriken are not. Anyone can learn rasengan, anyone with a wind element can learn rasenshuriken. Only Uchihas who advanced there sharingans to MS can use tsukiyomi. According to my logic which you did not understand, naruto can use rasenshuriken, a better version of rasengan and minato and jiraiya can use rasengan but not add nature, while itachi can use a better version of tsukiyomi where he controls time and space and sasuke just uses Tsukiyomi without the ability of controling time and space. Its not rocket science you genius (are you going to miss the sarcasm and say i kiss ass by calling you a genius?)
You fail to even understand the points i made or you avoid them cuz you dont address them and you say you disproven them? Like i said your like a drunk who says hes fit to drive, ur in denial. Your pathetic. and a noob
Answer this for me (since you also ignored this point), if sasuke has it itachis eyes then how is it that he "doesnt have tsukiyomi?"
and imma make this point as well........... to noobkage2 and any other noob. can anyone show me where it says that Sasuke cannot use Tsukiyomi in the manga? can anyone show me where it says that Sasukes "genjutsu sharingan" or "illusions" or "weak genjutsu" are not Tsukiyomi? because as far as i know Tsukiyomi technically is a genjutsu of the sharingan, an illusion and since Itachi was a genjutsu specialist, compared to him i believe Sasuke's version of Tsukiyomi would be a "weak genjutsu" in comparison to Itachi who could control time and space. so can anyone show me where it says Sasuke cant use Tsukiyomi? maybe ya should try to go to naruto wiki and find where it says that or get proof.
This is how i know you are retarded and dont have a basic reading comprehension: that time i talked to you about emr, i was sarcastic -__-. I dont kiss anyones ass, those who know me know that, your a noob. You and emr probably call each other at night and phone ***. Im bad at flaming? Lol iight if u say so.Ha haha Looked in the mirror? Thought you had run out (like a b!tch) on me there, guess i'm that good.
I read the whole of your shitty thread, and disproved it. And terrible insults lol, get a grip , son. You fail at flaming, i could give you lessons, if you suck up to me and beg me. But hey, you are the expert when it comes to sucking up to people, are'nt you? Like how you kissed my ass, crying and begging for forgiveness about that EMR guy who flamed your sorry ass.
Never stated , try again . No one said or implied that Sasuke's tech is tsukuyomi.
Where does he say that you fool?
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That has to be one of the stupidest lies i ever heard. Danzo did'nt say sh!t about Sasuke's weak ability to use tsukuyomi, he said Sasuke's GENJUTSU illusion was nothing compared to Itachi's tsukuyomi.
Tsukuyomi is a specific type of illusion, it was used by Itachi to put people under genjutsu for what felt like 3 days in an instant in the real world.
Boy you sure are one dumb fck, kid.
Terrible example. Tsukuyomi is a specific tech, its a specific illusion that only Itachi knew how to use. Like rasengan and rasenshuriken, both are specific techniques and although you need to know rasengan to learn rasenshuriken, its possible to know rasengan and not know shit about rasenshuriken, which is a specific tech. Because its an advanced form of the rasengan. According to your bs logic, both Minato and Jiraiya can use the rasen shuriken.
If you don't understand this,and make a stupid reply, then don't . You will only make yourself look like a bigger fool than you already are.
I already explained to you why its not the same tech, how many times i gotta repeat myself?
Lol whats that son? Is that what your parents told you? I would'nt be surprised, you are quite dumb.
Talking about a bitch, here's one right here:
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NaruVsGoku the ass kissing hypocrite, everyone, have a laugh at this two faced fool .
You quoted half my comment and addressed minor points and left out crucial ones like the arguement of tsukiyomi being black and white
You didnt say nothing on that. So i guess you cant address it and im right
And i gave the manga pages in my thread where danzo is comparing sasukes genjutsu to itachi. You giving me pages and saying "prove it" like a moron is not helping your arguements cuz those arent the only pages im talking about. you might as well posted pages of One Piece and ask me to prove it. when Danzo said "thats nothing compared to Itachi's Tsukiyomi, who could control time and space" he is implying that Sasuke is not only using Tsukiyomi, but Itachi's version is better because Itachi could control time and space.
Again how many times i have to explain it to you Danzo made it clear that Itachi was gifted and he was able to control time and space with tsukiyomi. That doesnt mean Sasuke can either. if fact Sasuke cannot control time and space with Tsukiyomi, but that doesnt mean Sasuke isnt using Tsukiyomi. And it was said Sasukes genjutsu is weak but what is tsukiyomi, a genjutsu is it not? How many times are you going to embarass yourself?
Again you prove your failure. Tsukiyomi is part of a kg! Rasengan and rasenshuriken are not. Anyone can learn rasengan, anyone with a wind element can learn rasenshuriken. Only Uchihas who advanced there sharingans to MS can use tsukiyomi. According to my logic which you did not understand, naruto can use rasenshuriken, a better version of rasengan and minato and jiraiya can use rasengan but not add nature, while itachi can use a better version of tsukiyomi where he controls time and space and sasuke just uses Tsukiyomi without the ability of controling time and space. Its not rocket science you genius (are you going to miss the sarcasm and say i kiss ass by calling you a genius?)
You fail to even understand the points i made or you avoid them cuz you dont address them and you say you disproven them? Like i said your like a drunk who says hes fit to drive, ur in denial. Your pathetic. and a noob
Answer this for me (since you also ignored this point), if sasuke has it itachis eyes then how is it that he "doesnt have tsukiyomi?"
and imma make this point as well........... to noobkage2 and any other noob. can anyone show me where it says that Sasuke cannot use Tsukiyomi in the manga? can anyone show me where it says that Sasukes "genjutsu sharingan" or "illusions" or "weak genjutsu" are not Tsukiyomi? because as far as i know Tsukiyomi technically is a genjutsu of the sharingan, an illusion and since Itachi was a genjutsu specialist, compared to him i believe Sasuke's version of Tsukiyomi would be a "weak genjutsu" in comparison to Itachi who could control time and space. so can anyone show me where it says Sasuke cant use Tsukiyomi? maybe ya should try to go to naruto wiki and find where it says that or get proof.
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