Shadow Clones Are A CHeaP TRICK! ESPecially Jinchuriki/ Tailed Beast Chakra Levels

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It's called revenge and it makes his character a little more interesting than some gay cliche hero with no talent, skills or intelligence. Naruto is one of the most dull characters in the entire show and it's so sad because he's the main.
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Naruto is too busy being the main character to care about being dull.
 

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P.S your the one that started
talking about Uchiha out of nowhere when i simply stated that Naruto has naturally powerful charka and strong stamina enough to suppress the nine-tails, I also stated that those people doubly have Tailed Beast Charka more likely something close but not that level.

Also your thread was originally about how cheap Shadow Clone no Jutsu is... I answered that by saying those people with supposed tailed beast charka levels can't use Shadow Clone jutsu like Naruto because Narutos Charka levels are on a different scale.

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I'm pretty sure if Naruto was able to spam clones on his base level someone with Tailed Beast chakra levels can do the same. Shadow clones are cheap training. As well as the ability to make kage level clones is ridiculous.
 

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It's called revenge and it makes his character a little more interesting than some gay cliche hero with no talent, skills or intelligence. Naruto is one of the most dull characters in the entire show and it's so sad because he's the main.
And now he speaks the truth!!!!!!!

Dood your just hating on Naruto and the whole point of this thread is because you want to hate on Naruto

Stop hating on Naruto. The manga is called Naruto because if they called it sasuke then everybody would think it is just more gay hentai and nobody would read about an emo who wants to kill people because he does not get what he wants.
 

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And now he speaks the truth!!!!!!!

Dood your just hating on Naruto and the whole point of this thread is because you want to hate on Naruto

Stop hating on Naruto. The manga is called Naruto because if they called it sasuke then everybody would think it is just more gay hentai and nobody would read about an emo who wants to kill people because he does not get what he wants.
Your the one who brung him up in the 1st place idiot. :flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw: This is about the cheapness of shadown clones. I didn't know you were into gay hentai maybe you should go talk to your boyfriend about it. I don't wanna hear about that.
 

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I'm pretty sure if Naruto was able to spam clones on his base level someone with Tailed Beast chakra levels can do the same. Shadow clones are cheap training. As well as the ability to make kage level clones is ridiculous.
I Agree with this - Other tailed beasts / chars mentioned should be able to summon a bunch of shadow clones to train with just like Naruto did - imagine how epic bee would be if he trained with clones.

Also in regards to the whole idea of naruto "spamming" shadow clones - i think hes done it less later on in the series, only using them for strategies and using them smartly rather than just summoning 10k of em to pummel someone.
(like he did to gaara in original naruto series)
 

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I'm pretty sure if Naruto was able to spam clones on his base level someone with Tailed Beast chakra levels can do the same. Shadow clones are cheap training. As well as the ability to make kage level clones is ridiculous.
Ummmmm very first episodes when Naruto learns how to use Shadow clone jutsu, he mass produced it with his base charka and virtually stupid control of his own charka
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Well i'm not 100% sure this is all his base charka maybe like 80% sure because it has been stated by J-man that Kurama's charka only activates when naruto is in dire situations but it has also been stated that the seal slowly leaks some of kurama charka.
 

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Mass Shadow clones are the cheapest trick to winning or defeating anyone nowadays.

If people like Kisame, Nagato, Any Raikage, or Bee were to use this spam this simple technique like Naruto. They would be sitting at top 10 or higher spots than they are now.

Anyone with tailed beast or chakra levels can just spam shadow clones to their way to the top just like Naruto. Such a simple 1 hand seal technique and gifted chakra levels boom your top 10. :noc:
Ah ha! Which is why Madara asked the Kages whether they want to challenge his Wood Clones with Susanoo or not. ^^

^ I doubt he is going to play fair though seeing how before it was 1 on 5. Now it's 25 on 5 baby! Advantage Madara!

Really good point. X3
 

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Mass Shadow clones are the cheapest trick to winning or defeating anyone nowadays.

If people like Kisame, Nagato, Any Raikage, or Bee were to use this spam this simple technique like Naruto. They would be sitting at top 10 or higher spots than they are now.

Anyone with tailed beast or chakra levels can just spam shadow clones to their way to the top just like Naruto. Such a simple 1 hand seal technique and gifted chakra levels boom your top 10. :noc:
agreed, that scumbag Madara!!!
 

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This is why I don't like fanboys. They take the original argument use strawman logic then attack the new easier point hoping they have misdirected the persons involved from the actual topic then they ad-hominem just to spice things up.


That said, let me preface this by saying I am fond of Naruto's never give up attitude (as impractical as it may be) especially when compared to Sasuke's huge ego that he's always had.
However, physical Clones are cheap.
If Tsunade had did what Naruto usually does before starting a fight, what could Orochimaru have done, what about Madara? We know she has an incredible amount of chakra so that she could spam but she doesn't.
Madara spamming wood clones was also cheap.
As is Naruto's use of clones especially KM clones.
The only use of clones I've seen that I'm rather fond of is Kakashi's use of Raiton clones and maybe Deidara's clay clones though those seem a bit hax since they can blow up....
So to sum up, while I like Naruto I am not fond of his fighting style. It lacks finesse. And at a point it becomes ridiculous. He can spam KM clones but could only use 3 SM clones....
 
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Posting that page just proves my point. :sy: Uchihas are the ones with more powerful chakra while the Senjus/Uzamaki's have more abundant. I never denied Uzamakis have alot of chakra. However their chakra is not on tailed beast levels like the Raikages and Kisame. Nagato is full matured Uzamaki so of course he has more chakra than base Naruto. Honestly I don't see what you're trying to prove.
Can you define chakra in narutoverse and then explain how Naruto has more chakra but not powerful?

Chakra is the resulting form of energy when two other forms of energy are mixed together. The two energies are referred to as "physical energy" and "spiritual energy". Physical energy is collected from the body's cells and can be increased through training, stimulants, and exercise. Spiritual energy is derived from the mind's consciousness (i.e. the soul) and can be increased through studying, meditation, and experience. Having these two energies become more powerful will in-turn make the created chakra more powerful. Therefore, practising a technique repeatedly will build-up experience, building up one's spiritual energy, and thus allowing more chakra to be created. As a result, the ninja is able to do that same technique with more power. This same cycle applies for physical energy, except this time, instead of doing things like meditation, the ninja could, say, do push-ups.

The general term for the source of chakra, the overall physical and spiritual energy an individual has, is called "total stamina". The maximum amount of chakra an individual can create and retain at a given time is called their "chakra level".
Naruto got an edge because of his physical power. Sasuke gets more from his spiritual enegy( Uchiha inheritence). But in the end total stamina comes from the sum total. Both have to be cultivated for best resuls. Rest is just another ridiculous troll thread for silly arguments.

So far Uzumaki's are the only ones used as nine tail jinchuriki- because of their special chakra not the other way round as you are suggesting. It doesn't make sense to assume their chakra is special because of tailed beasts. Yamato pointed it out to Naurto that it was his own power which was able to hold it when Sakura was hit by Nine tail chakra and it acted like poison to her and later Kushina mentioned it too when she stated why she was brought to Konoha.

Naruto's shadow clone jutsu is unique since he devides his chakra equaly in all his clones and still is able to make many of them. But how is that a cheap trick if he can do so( first time he did it before Nine tail seal was cracked.) unless you think that Sharingan techs are cheap as well.

I guess barring Lee every one's abilities are cheap as people get them due to inheitence, KGs or effinities to certain elements and what not. huh?
 
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Rofl what. All of these guys have more base chakra than Naruto. The only thing that sets them apart is Kurama. Naruto just has alot of chakra as an Uzamaki. Uchihas are the ones with stronger more powerful chakra.
Uchihas dont have stronger or more powerful chakra than Uzumaki what are you talking about? Rasengan Shurriken is just as strong if not stronger than any attack iv'e seen from any Uchiha. Amaterasu dosn't destroyyour cells ona malecular lvl , or a sasunoo bolt. Sorry buddy your logic is a little flaud. Uchihas are beasty but don't have stonger/more powerful chakra.
 

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no. u must hate naruto. 2nd hate thread

but the cheapest trick is edo tensei.


Haha ... Yes I noticed too ... this is the 2nd hate thread ...
dont feel bad ... I know there are "LOTS" of 'Sasuke' haters ... but for that u shouldnt make threads like this ... it only gives opposite reaction ;)

To prove Urself good .... prove other ppl bad ... thats not a good logic at all :p xd
 

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Mass Shadow clones are the cheapest trick to winning or defeating anyone nowadays.

If people like Kisame, Nagato, Any Raikage, or Bee were to use this spam this simple technique like Naruto. They would be sitting at top 10 or higher spots than they are now.

Anyone with tailed beast or chakra levels can just spam shadow clones to their way to the top just like Naruto. Such a simple 1 hand seal technique and gifted chakra levels boom your top 10. :noc:
Who gives a shit about about that? Its his asset so hes using it, its only logical.
 

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Mass Shadow clones are the cheapest trick to winning or defeating anyone nowadays.

If people like Kisame, Nagato, Any Raikage, or Bee were to use this spam this simple technique like Naruto. They would be sitting at top 10 or higher spots than they are now.

Anyone with tailed beast or chakra levels can just spam shadow clones to their way to the top just like Naruto. Such a simple 1 hand seal technique and gifted chakra levels boom your top 10. :noc:
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Can you define chakra in narutoverse and then explain how Naruto has more chakra but not powerful?



Naruto got an edge because of his physical power. Sasuke gets more from his spiritual enegy( Uchiha inheritence). But in the end total stamina comes from the sum total. Both have to be cultivated for best resuls. Rest is just another ridiculous troll thread for silly arguments.

So far Uzumaki's are the only ones used as nine tail jinchuriki- because of their special chakra not the other way round as you are suggesting. It doesn't make sense to assume their chakra is special because of tailed beasts. Yamato pointed it out to Naurto that it was his own power which was able to hold it when Sakura was hit by Nine tail chakra and it acted like poison to her and later Kushina mentioned it too when she stated why she was brought to Konoha.

Naruto's shadow clone jutsu is unique since he devides his chakra equaly in all his clones and still is able to make many of them. But how is that a cheap trick if he can do so( first time he did it before Nine tail seal was cracked.) unless you think that Sharingan techs are cheap as well.

I guess barring Lee every one's abilities are cheap as people get them due to inheitence, KGs or effinities to certain elements and what not. huh?
so true
 
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Mass Shadow clones are the cheapest trick to winning or defeating anyone nowadays.

If people like Kisame, Nagato, Any Raikage, or Bee were to use this spam this simple technique like Naruto. They would be sitting at top 10 or higher spots than they are now.

Anyone with tailed beast or chakra levels can just spam shadow clones to their way to the top just like Naruto. Such a simple 1 hand seal technique and gifted chakra levels boom your top 10. :noc:
You know what else is a cheap trick? Simply looking at someone and setting them on an inextinguishable fire.
 

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Mass Shadow clones are the cheapest trick to winning or defeating anyone nowadays.

If people like Kisame, Nagato, Any Raikage, or Bee were to use this spam this simple technique like Naruto. They would be sitting at top 10 or higher spots than they are now.

Anyone with tailed beast or chakra levels can just spam shadow clones to their way to the top just like Naruto. Such a simple 1 hand seal technique and gifted chakra levels boom your top 10. :noc:
Jealousy and envy has reared its ugly head in this thread.
 

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Wouldnt say its a cheap trick and tbh there is no such thing as a cheap in naruto or else you could say the sme for people with kg's, summonigs or edo tensei users. I do agree that its an annoying technique so much so even for doujutsu users, but that doesnt change the fact that regular bunshin's are relatively easy to defuse with minimum contact.

You might have a large chakra reserve but if you continuously use the kage bunshin, you risk losing chakra fast
 

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Name one other character that has been able to make more than 5 shadow clones (in canon)? It isn't cheap it's naruto's own signature move. Thats like saying Sasuke's blaze release techniques are cheap....but you would never say that about sasuke now would you

Also when he uses even 2 clones he loses 2/3 of his chakra thats not really cheap at all
 
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