Hashirama/Minato vs. EMS Madara/Nagato

[The Grand Pubba]

Tile says it all!



Madara EMS (at the time he fought Hashirama at the valley of the end, Nine tails included)

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and

Healthy Nagato (like he was when he fought Killer Bee, Naruto, and Itachi but not edo)

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vs

Hashirama Senju (at the time he fought Madara in the Valley of the end)

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and


Minato Namikaze (at the time of the Nine Tails Invasion)

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Restrictions/Rules:

• Nagato can not use the Gedo Mazo like he did with Hanzo to use the soul absorbtion dragon but because of that He will be a skelenton again
• Madara CAN summon the Nine Tails
• You can use hype,manga facts, what is said by people in the manga about that person, along with what they have shown in battle.
• Defend your arguments with reason, not stuff like "nuff said" or "Nagato solo"

My prediction:

I would give it to Hashirama/Minato. I feel like the biggest problem that this team faces is the chibaku Tensie, but i feel Minato can teleport the orb to someplace else like he did the beast ball. 4th can dodge amaterasu and The First took on madara so he has a way to deal with it. The real iffy is just how good is Madara's Susanno, but the first probably has a counter for that too. I feel like that Minato can keep nagato busy while the first takes care of madara then they tag team nagato.

It's my first post guys so...


Tell me what you guys think!

EDIT:

Since Madara and Nagato were losing at the polls and some people are saying that Hashirama can take out madara without a sweat since he does not have ninetails, I granted Madara access to the Nine tails but Nagato can no longer use GM. Hope this makes it more competitive. I still go with the Hokages.

 

[Guardian of the Rain]

Well Hashirama>EMS Madara and Nagato>Minato so draw???

 

[lol99]

Hashirama was a beast and Minato is elusive, difficult to hit.

Hashi self regenerating and medical ninjutsu and mass mokuton clones give him the edge


I say hashirama and minato

 

[TobisPawn]

Nagato's team.

 

[Killer B]

If by Nagato healthy you mean he can walk then he could probably solo Minato and Hashi but thats just me...

If Nagato cant walk then Minato and Hashi win

 

[The Grand Pubba]

He is like he was at the time he fought B,Naruto, Itachi but not edo.

 

[Unorthodox]

team nagato because they cant beat chibaku tensei and nagato can beat minato he can universal pull his ftg to him and hashi and ems madara were tie he may have won but i still say both kill each other hashi and madara fought tons of times and beat each other

 

[TheGoldenFlash]

I agree hashirama could beat madara when he had the nine tails helping him so im pretty sure if minato can keep nagato busy cause even if nagato tries to use chibaku Tensei minato would interrupt it with his FTG. Even if he gets it off he could teleport it somewhere else, and then when hashimara beats madara they can double team nagato and they'll take him

 

[Bogard]

Hashirama and Minato obviously

 

[Bmill]

team nagato because they cant beat chibaku tensei and nagato can beat minato he can universal pull his ftg to him and hashi and ems madara were tie he may have won but i still say both kill each other hashi and madara fought tons of times and beat each other

Kid you're talking recklessly and don't know what you are talking about hashirama beat Madara while Madara was controling the fox.if Madara didn't have the fox with him hashirama would have beaten him much easier you can say he doesn't have to put up a sweat. Minato and nagato just because he has the rennigan doesn't mean anything I say minato takes it cause of his teleportation alone and it was said that he was the fastest no one is catching him plus he faught against A and B and won and I think he has other jutsus that no one has seen yet.

 

[Champ]

Madara & Nagato

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

once nine tails is summoned, nagato can sit on his snout and destroy the trees that come near him. and minato would have to seal kyuubi in hashirama otherwise kyuubi wil just keep breaking out of the suppressing mokuton thanks to nagato. kyuubis free to tear hashi apart. as it is, nagato's a perfect counter to both these guys. having madara and kyubi here is overkil as nagato solos.

Hashi self regenerating and medical ninjutsu and mass mokuton clones give him the edge

those abilities pale in comparison to tsunade's own greatest medical ninjutsu, regeneration, and mass katsuyu clones and acid spit. we all know tsunade stood no chance vs pain.

Hashirama>EMS Madara

we dont know what happened in the fight and from what we know madara and kyuubi are much stronger. something happened in that fight that changed what happened so many times before when MS madara was stalemating hashirama

hashirama beat Madara while Madara was controling the fox.if Madara didn't have the fox with him hashirama would have beaten him much easier

wrong. form what we know about hashirama, he stole control over kurama from madara's genjutsu and it became his pawn instead of madara's. so obviously if madara didnt have the fox he wouldnt have to worry about him turning on him. and he wouldnt have to focus on controlling him and fight hashirama at the same time. madara and hashirama were equal rivals for many years before madara got eternal MS. if hashirama were stronger, then he could have wiped uchihas out before the era of ninja villages was even an inkling in his thoughts. madara stopped him from doing that so many times.

you can say he doesn't have to put up a sweat.

did you see hashirama during that fight in kyuubi flashback? he couldnt use his right eye and his face was covered in blood. at best madara + kyuubi fight hashirama to a near draw again, and neither die but neither can continue. kyuubi roams free, as he would have if mito had not sealed him into herself. no mito means hashirama dies at kyuubis hand. then its just nagato vs minato

Minato and nagato just because he has the rennigan doesn't mean anything

so according to you the most powerful doujutsu and the very eyes of the sage of six paths mean nothing in battle? kakashi thought the same thing thinking rinnegan was a mutation. look what happened to him.

he faught against A and B and won

point me to where minato won. you cant

I agree hashirama could beat madara when he had the nine tails helping him

and mito was helping hashirama. no mito = hashirama is murdered. we dont know what happened in VOTE. there are so many circumstances where ninjas are holding back for one reason or another or couldnt use a particular ability for a certain amount of time or a ninja had help etc. we cant use VOTE as evidence of power until we actually see what the hell happened.
remember minato's "he saw through everything i did and is unimaginably strong"? but what really happened was minato stomped him in 1 chapter? remember how we were told again and again hanzo was amazing and he loses to mifune? remember how we were told hiruzen was a god and he barely can create a fireball the size of a jounin when jiraiya made fireballs bigger than manda?

I think he has other jutsus that no one has seen yet.

then so should nagato and madara

 

[Midday]

Madara and Nagato. Madara gave Hashirama a death match so even if he wins he's gonna be half dead and Nagato is stronger than Minato and would finish him also Nagato can revive Madara if he dies.

 

[lol99]

those abilities pale in comparison to tsunade's own greatest medical ninjutsu, regeneration, and mass katsuyu clones and acid spit. we all know tsunade stood no chance vs pain.

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acid spit and mass katsuyu clones aren't shit when compared to mass mokuton clones and flower tree world

 

[MrLukyso]

Madara & Nagato Obviously LOL.

 

[silmarill]

Would be an epic battle
My guess is who ever gains control of Kurama has the edge here

 

[NaruSasuke]

Hashirama and minato very high difficulty

 

[minatoisagod]

yup the two kages

 

[TheGoldenFlash]

Ill go with EMS Madara and Nagato. The Minato would be busy dealing with the Ninetails while Nagato and Madara take care of Hashirama. then the eye users would take care of Minato.

Team 2 with high diff

 

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i reckon it'd be a draw