Edo Madara (with Rinnegan) Vs. Tobi (with rinnegan and sharigan)

[obscoral]

What's Madara's counter to this? Two Root Jounin didn't even see it coming when Tobi was standing right in front of them.

oh come ON

madara is NOT a stupid root jonin!

madara=man who tobi wants to bi

period

 

[TobisPawn]

oh come ON

madara is NOT a stupid root jonin!

madara=man who tobi wants to bi

period

From what we've seen so far, Madara is no super genius or anything. And in the confusion and wreckage, Tobi can still warp behind Madara and take him out.

And as stated, Tobi just used his name to start a war. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Ryuu..]

steps to countering tobis warping.
1. dont stay stationary
you have just countered tobis warping.

Match starts. Tobi warps. Madara is baffled. By the time Tobi is behind him, the match is over.

 

[TheSages456]

LMFAO so you're saying Mokuton Clones = Regular humans in durability? People didn't get killed by Gedo Mazo? Look here:

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Look at all of those dead bodies at the top...

And you realize that Gedo Mazo can roar and send all of the Mokuton around flying away, right? The clones have no chance against Gedo Mazo, and if the Bijuus are involved, no chance at all.

The Dragon Thing gets blocked by Susanoo? Tobi warps over and uses Preta Path to absorb Susanoo, while Gedo Mazo rips Madara's soul out. The clones can withstand Tobi's attacks? Even though Gedo Mazo can/will kill them all, he can still use Chibaku Tensei to send Madara and his clones flying up.

TBH, all Tobi has to do is warp him, if the fight isn't easy enough for him. Madara has no S/T tech to counter Tobi's.




Haha no. Minato had to use FTG to counter it. Nice try to underrate Tobi's S/T techs, though.

when tobi tried to warp minato he held his hand so he couldnt move. tobi was impressed with the fact that minato escaped while he was being warped. tobi will never get that chance against madara im afraid.

stop comparing fodders to madaras clones. gedo mazo can also get put to sleep by the flower tree world if by some miracle restraining it with mokuton fails. while tobis absorbing susano, you supposedly forgot about the other 5 clones defending madara who can also use susano.

 

[TobisPawn]

when tobi tried to warp minato he held his hand so he couldnt move. tobi was impressed with the fact that minato escaped while he was being warped. tobi will never get that chance against madara im afraid.

stop comparing fodders to madaras clones. gedo mazo can also get put to sleep by the flower tree world if by some miracle restraining it with mokuton fails. while tobis absorbing susano, you supposedly forgot about the other 5 clones defending madara who can also use susano.

Minato had to use FTG to warp away, its as simple as that. And how will Madara stop Tobi from teleporting?

Fodders with actual bodies > Mokuton clones. Gedo Mazo can't be put to sleep, wtf? Tobi can control it and make it wake up anyway. Gedo Mazo can stop the flower tree world by roaring and sending all the plants flying.

I already told you. Gedo Mazo or Tobi can easily kill the other 5 clones, and Tobi can take out Madara mid difficulty with Rinnegan and S/T techs.

You keep on saying that Tobi will have no chance to get near Madara when all he has to do is kill the clones with Gedo Mazo or the Rinnegan, and warp to Madara and warp him away.

 

[obscoral]

From what we've seen so far, Madara is no super genius or anything. And in the confusion and wreckage, Tobi can still warp behind Madara and take him out.

And as stated, Tobi just used his name to start a war. Nothing more, nothing less.

maybe madara is not a super genius
but he definitely is NOT a stupid lamer to fall for a trap like that

 

[TobisPawn]

maybe madara is not a super genius
but he definitely is NOT a stupid lamer to fall for a trap like that

Stupid lamer? The only way to dodge that is through an S/T tech like FTG.

 

[TheSages456]

Minato had to use FTG to warp away, its as simple as that. And how will Madara stop Tobi from teleporting?

Fodders with actual bodies > Mokuton clones. Gedo Mazo can't be put to sleep, wtf? Tobi can control it and make it wake up anyway. Gedo Mazo can stop the flower tree world by roaring anyway.

I already told you. Gedo Mazo or Tobi can easily kill the other 5 clones, and Tobi can take out Madara mid difficulty with Rinnegan and S/T techs.

You keep on saying that Tobi will have no chance to get near Madara when all he has to do is kill the clones with Gedo Mazo or the Rinnegan, and warp to Madara and warp him away.

tobi isnt easily killing madaras clones as they can use susano, preta path and mokuton. btw madara absorbs any attack gedo mazo throw at him with preta path. his clones can also absorb any chakra based attacks gedo mazo throws at them as well. the gedo mazo is alive. its like nagatos summons. it is vulnerable to get put to sleep just like any other living thing. also forgot to mention that madara uses the flower tree world and the moment tobi turns tangible he gets put to sleep. gedo mazo is restrained by mokuton and then goes to sleep as it was just hit by the flower tree world.

 

[obscoral]

Stupid lamer? The only way to dodge that is through an S/T tech like FTG.

or to C it comin

and somehow i have a strange feeling madara will...

 

[TobisPawn]

tobi isnt easily killing madaras clones as they can use susano, preta path and mokuton. btw madara absorbs any attack gedo mazo throw at him with preta path. his clones can also absorb any chakra based attacks gedo mazo throws at them as well. the gedo mazo is alive. its like nagatos summons. it is vulnerable to get put to sleep just like any other living thing. also forgot to mention that madara uses the flower tree world and the moment tobi turns tangible he gets put to sleep. gedo mazo is restrained by mokuton and then goes to sleep as it was just hit by the flower tree world.

Sure he can't kill them easily, but they're still no problem for Gedo Mazo and (possibly) 6 Bijuus.

Madara can't absorb the Soul Ripping Dragons, and Tobi can absorb any attack thrown at him too.

And you're saying Tobi is stupid enough to go tangible when flower tree world is out. If Onoki can wake up, Tobi can force Gedo Mazo to wake up and send everything flying. It can roar to get rid of the Mokuton around it.

And you still haven't listed a counter for Tobi's S/T techs.


All you're doing is listing attacks Madara has and acting as if Tobi has no techniques of his own. He also has Izanagi as a last resort, though I doubt Tobi will need to use it.

 

[TheSages456]

Sure he can't kill them easily, but they're still no problem for Gedo Mazo and (possibly) 6 Bijuus.

Madara can't absorb the Soul Ripping Dragons, and Tobi can absorb any attack thrown at him too.

And you're saying Tobi is stupid enough to go tangible when flower tree world is out. If Onoki can wake up, Tobi can force Gedo Mazo to wake up and send everything flying. It can roar to get rid of the Mokuton around it.

And you still haven't listed a counter for Tobi's S/T techs.


All you're doing is listing attacks Madara has and acting as if Tobi has no techniques of his own. He also has Izanagi as a last resort, though I doubt Tobi will need to use it.

tobi can only stay tangible for 5 minutes. while madara and his 5 clones use the flower tree world, 20 mokuton clones are restraining gedo mazo and suppressing its bijuu chakra to prevent it from doing anything. tobi needs to get ahold of someone to warp them so how is he doing this if madara is in susano.

 

[Combat]

Madara

 

[Midday]

Madara's got nothing on Tobi's space time.

 

[MrLukyso]

Madaras name > Tobi.

Madara IMO.

 

[obscoral]

Madaras name > Tobi.

Madara IMO.

u have a point there

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[TobisPawn]

tobi can only stay tangible for 5 minutes. while madara and his 5 clones use the flower tree world, 20 mokuton clones are restraining gedo mazo and suppressing its bijuu chakra to prevent it from doing anything. tobi needs to get ahold of someone to warp them so how is he doing this if madara is in susano.

And again, you make it seem like Tobi can't do anything but stay intangible..

Gedo Mazo can break through Mokuton restraints by roaring, and killed off the Mokuton clones attacking it at the same time.

Tobi can fly up to avoid flower tree world, or he can stay intangible and just walk up to Madara.

Tobi can absorb or walk through Susanoo. Or 6 TBBs should be able to destroy it.

 

[TheSages456]

And again, you make it seem like Tobi can't do anything but stay intangible..

Gedo Mazo can break through Mokuton restraints by roaring, and killed off the Mokuton clones attacking it at the same time.

Tobi can fly up to avoid flower tree world, or he can stay intangible and just walk up to Madara.

Tobi can absorb or walk through Susanoo. Or 6 TBBs should be able to destroy it.

gedo mazo isnt breaking the wood 100% kurama couldnt break. if the wood is wrapped around gedo mazo how will it break the wood with a roar. if tobi flies in the air to avoid the pollen then tries to use shinra tensei madara uses susano to smack him down just like he did to the kages. tobi isnt walking through susano. madara will be moving around constantly as his susano has legs and can run and jump. madara would absorb the tbbs and mokuton clones will cover madaras back to make sure tobi doesnt try and warp him while he is doing so.

 

[Midday]

gedo mazo isnt breaking the wood 100% kurama couldnt break. if the wood is wrapped around gedo mazo how will it break the wood with a roar. if tobi flies in the air to avoid the pollen then tries to use shinra tensei madara uses susano to smack him down just like he did to the kages. tobi isnt walking through susano. madara will be moving around constantly as his susano has legs and can run and jump. madara would absorb the tbbs and mokuton clones will cover madaras back to make sure tobi doesnt try and warp him while he is doing so.

How do we know Kumura couldn't break it. Gedo Maze is itself + 1-7 tailed beast > 9 tails.

 

[TobisPawn]

gedo mazo isnt breaking the wood 100% kurama couldnt break. if the wood is wrapped around gedo mazo how will it break the wood with a roar. if tobi flies in the air to avoid the pollen then tries to use shinra tensei madara uses susano to smack him down just like he did to the kages. tobi isnt walking through susano. madara will be moving around constantly as his susano has legs and can run and jump. madara would absorb the tbbs and mokuton clones will cover madaras back to make sure tobi doesnt try and warp him while he is doing so.

Because when it roars, everything around it is sent flying? Gedo Mazo > Mokuton clones.

Tobi can easily counter Madara's Susanoo with a Preta Path or any other Rinnegan tech.

And as shown by Onoki and Jinton, Madara can only absorb once his Susanoo is broken. So Tobi can break it with a TBB and warp him away.

Tobi and Gedo Mazo > Mokuton clones, easy. They're no issue.

Madara still has no counter to Tobi warping behind him, without Madara realizing, and warping him away.

 

[TheSages456]

How do we know Kumura couldn't break it. Gedo Maze is itself + 1-7 tailed beast > 9 tails.

pain said that kurama had to be sealed last or the statue would shatter. that means 100% kurama= tailed beasts 1-8. gedo mazo by itself is powerless. its being fueled by tailed beast chakra.