Madara and Guy vs Tobi and Kakashi

[youngdolce]

Tobi vs. madara would be a stale mate. so would guy vs. kakashi. But i dont know how madara would counter seven tailed beasts. they could destroy meteorites with beast balls.

 

[AvatarMadara]

in this battle madara shall not use amaterasu or tsukuyomi

Even if Madara didn't use amaterasu or tsukuyomi ( not that the ladder would work on tobi) Madara still has wood jutsu and all his fire jutus, plus whatever else he has up sleeve. Madara would discover the timing of tobi's phase shift and know how to deal it.

now in tobi's defense we really still don't what else he can do for sure yet, but I do know this.

tobi nearly crapped his pants when he saw madara's corpse.

 

[AvatarMadara]

Tobi vs. madara would be a stale mate. so would guy vs. kakashi. But i dont know how madara would counter seven tailed beasts. they could destroy meteorites with beast balls.

I think madara would kill tobi, how long it would is unknown and a great battle to watch for sure. But madara would nuke tobi.

guy and kakashi........mmmmmm kakashi would take him out too. same thing it would take time but it'd be done

 

[AvatarMadara]

tobi aint anything lol id like to see a fight where he isnt phazing through everything and see how he does

Props :worshippy:

 

[CDT23]

Even if Madara didn't use amaterasu or tsukuyomi ( not that the ladder would work on tobi) Madara still has wood jutsu and all his fire jutus, plus whatever else he has up sleeve. Madara would discover the timing of tobi's phase shift and know how to deal it.

now in tobi's defense we really still don't what else he can do for sure yet, but I do know this.

tobi nearly crapped his pants when he saw madara's corpse.

you're obviously a Madara Fan boy... but what makes you think Tobi has No wood jutsu too? he was able to replicate Hashiramas body... im sure he has Hashiramas techniques also, maybe even mastered most of them too, Rinnegan on one side and Sharingan on the other, Gedo... timing on phase is slim to none... even Minato had a hard time figuring it out... last i checked, madara is slower than minato.

 

[MangekyouJ]

But yet u say Madara can use Amatarasu and Tsukiyomi but we havent seen him do it yet

Wait homie.....don't throw words in my mouth that I didn't speak...

In the Manga, it's said that in order to use Susanoo, you first have to be able to use Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu.....excuse me if I'm a bit lazy at the moment to look it up for you but I guaruntee it that it does...:sy:U_U

 

[youngdolce]

Even if Madara didn't use amaterasu or tsukuyomi ( not that the ladder would work on tobi) Madara still has wood jutsu and all his fire jutus, plus whatever else he has up sleeve. Madara would discover the timing of tobi's phase shift and know how to deal it.

now in tobi's defense we really still don't what else he can do for sure yet, but I do know this.

tobi nearly crapped his pants when he saw madara's corpse.

I dont know. Kakashi seems to be lacking on the chakra side and guy seems to be really durable epecially in his gates mode,

 

[CDT23]

Wait homie.....don't throw words in my mouth that I didn't speak...

In the Manga, it's said that in order to use Susanoo, you first have to be able to use Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu.....excuse me if I'm a bit lazy at the moment to look it up for you but I guaruntee it that it does...:sy:U_U

that might be true... but according to manga 585 Sasuke obviously doesn't have Tsukiyomi, but he has Susanoo

 

[MangekyouJ]

you're obviously a Madara Fan boy... but what makes you think Tobi has No wood jutsu too? he was able to replicate Hashiramas body... im sure he has Hashiramas techniques also, maybe even mastered most of them too, Rinnegan on one side and Sharingan on the other, Gedo... timing on phase is slim to none... even Minato had a hard time figuring it out... last i checked, madara is slower than minato.

Minato had a hard time doing what??? YOU might wanna go back and re-read that chapter....

He only has some of Hashi's techniques....it never specified that he had all....stop assuming just because he's shown to use 1-2 techniques that he has all....that's how people get flamed....U_U

 

[bluegirl]

madara bro

 

[MangekyouJ]

that might be true... but according to manga 585 Sasuke obviously doesn't have Tsukiyomi, but he has Susanoo

LOL.....don't mistake what's not there....Then what did Sasuke try to hit Danzo with??? What genjutsu did Sasuke use on Killer Bee and the Haichibi had to knock him out of???..........Case in point.......

 

[MangekyouJ]

that might be true... but according to manga 585 Sasuke obviously doesn't have Tsukiyomi, but he has Susanoo

This is just my interpretation on that Chapter....since his Tsukyomi wasn't strong enough.....Itachi made him copy his Tsukyomi to improve on his own...that's what I got out of it....

 

[AvatarMadara]

you're obviously a Madara Fan boy... but what makes you think Tobi has No wood jutsu too? he was able to replicate Hashiramas body... im sure he has Hashiramas techniques also, maybe even mastered most of them too, Rinnegan on one side and Sharingan on the other, Gedo... timing on phase is slim to none... even Minato had a hard time figuring it out... last i checked, madara is slower than minato.

Because if you read the manga deeper tobi basiclly says he cant use high end wood style, he has it for extending his life and chakra.

and yes Minato had a hard time dealing with him because he was trying to..
1. fight Tobi
2. fight kyubi while protecting the village.
3. being injured and draining alot of chakra while saving the village
4. protecting naruto and his mom
:flaw:
yea I know what I'm talking about
and of course madara is slower then the flash but raw ass power combined
with years and years of fighting.

again Tobi nearly crapping his pants when seeing Madara's corpse. I think somebody's afraid of someone

 

[CDT23]

Minato had a hard time doing what??? YOU might wanna go back and re-read that chapter....

He only has some of Hashi's techniques....it never specified that he had all....stop assuming just because he's shown to use 1-2 techniques that he has all....that's how people get flamed....U_U

Where does it indicate that i said he had all? i said im sure he has Hashiramas techniques... meaning more than one... hence the s at the end.

 

[AvatarMadara]

Minato had a hard time doing what??? YOU might wanna go back and re-read that chapter....

He only has some of Hashi's techniques....it never specified that he had all....stop assuming just because he's shown to use 1-2 techniques that he has all....that's how people get flamed....U_U

hahaha Props!

 

[MangekyouJ]

Because if you read the manga deeper tobi basiclly says he cant use high end wood style, he has it for extending his life and chakra.

and yes Minato had a hard time dealing with him because he was trying to..
1. fight Tobi
2. fight kyubi while protecting the village.
3. being injured and draining alot of chakra while saving the village
4. protecting naruto and his mom
:flaw:
yea I know what I'm talking about
and of course madara is slower then the flash but raw ass power combined
with years and years of fighting.

again Tobi nearly crapping his pants when seeing Madara's corpse. I think somebody's afraid of someone

Underlined: That was his main focus....

Bolded: the third and the rest of the village pushed the kyuubi outside the village walls.....

Italiced: He just needed to get her outta the way before she became burden that actual help....

Minato attacked twice before he damn near obliterated Tobi, separating the kyuubi and wounding him in the same attack...

 

[CDT23]

LOL.....don't mistake what's not there....Then what did Sasuke try to hit Danzo with??? What genjutsu did Sasuke use on Killer Bee and the Haichibi had to knock him out of???..........Case in point.......

The panel in the manga reads Sharingan Genjutsu, now unless you can read japanese and get a raw version to prove me wrong... it was stated by Danzo that Sasuke lacks Genjutsu in his arsenal, and is only to use it for a few seconds.

 

[MangekyouJ]

you're obviously a Madara Fan boy... but what makes you think Tobi has No wood jutsu too? he was able to replicate Hashiramas body... im sure he has Hashiramas techniques also, maybe even mastered most of them too, Rinnegan on one side and Sharingan on the other, Gedo... timing on phase is slim to none... even Minato had a hard time figuring it out... last i checked, madara is slower than minato.

This is where you said it....We have YET to see virtually any techniques come from tobi except Izagani.....that was his only technique we've seen.....we haven't seen any MS techniques from him nor Rinnegan techniques....so basically what I'm saying he's a more glorified version of Kakashi.....at least we've SEEN him use a MS technique....

 

[AvatarMadara]

Underlined: That was his main focus....

Bolded: the third and the rest of the village pushed the kyuubi outside the village walls.....

Italiced: He just needed to get her outta the way before she became burden that actual help....

Minato attacked twice before he damn near obliterated Tobi, separating the kyuubi and wounding him in the same attack...

Again Props

 

[CDT23]

Because if you read the manga deeper tobi basiclly says he cant use high end wood style, he has it for extending his life and chakra.

and yes Minato had a hard time dealing with him because he was trying to..
1. fight Tobi
2. fight kyubi while protecting the village.
3. being injured and draining alot of chakra while saving the village
4. protecting naruto and his mom
:flaw:
yea I know what I'm talking about
and of course madara is slower then the flash but raw ass power combined
with years and years of fighting.

again Tobi nearly crapping his pants when seeing Madara's corpse. I think somebody's afraid of someone

He was more of unprepared to fight Madara at the time/surprise(obviously because he didnt have the Rinnegan implanted yet) than crapping his pants... considering he started a war, and Fighting Madara at the time would end up him loosing the war...