Im sorry, not hater and not Fanboy, im a fan, your list really portrays you are a lot more biased that any Itachi fanboy could ever be. Go post that list in a thread if you want people to make fun of you, in my list Minato is 9 or tenth, but in your list Itachi is 15th? lol who is the hater now?Obvious hater and a hardcore Itachi fanboy.
1. Rikudo Tobi
2. Edo Madara [Kabuto]
3. BM Naruto
4. Hashirama
5. Minato / Prime Hiruzen
6. Hiruzen Prime / Minato
7. Nagato
8. Tobirama
9. Third Raikage
10. Hanzo
11. Sage Jiraya
12. Fourth Raikage
13. Garra
14. Onooki
15. Itachi
he hardly had any elemental jutsu.I've been hearing this a lot now. People say Minato doesn't even feature in top 15 ninjas now and has no jutsus of mass destruction. Seriously? Firstly, let's remeber that he was stated to be the best ninja by jiraiya and 4th Raikage, which means they believed he was stronger than any of the past kages. Secondly, How much have we seen of Minato. People keep saying he just has FTG and Rasengan. Why would he use a stronger jutsu when the same result can be achieved with these two and waste more chakra.? Yes, he's not a show off. And I'm pretty sure he has much more destructive jutsus and elemental jutsus in his arsenal, but just never got a chance to show them in battle to us because of his little screen time. You can't be Hokage by mastering a couple of jutsus. So I reckon he does have jutsus that can get past Third Raikage's defense, for that matter.
Naruto isn't even hokage yet. Besides, Naruto knows two? He can do all sorts of rasengan + tailed beast ball + rasenshuriken + Sage mode + BM. And he's only getting better.u say you cant become hokage without alot of jutsu tell that to naruto who only knows 2
yes it's trueI've been hearing this a lot now. People say Minato doesn't even feature in top 15 ninjas now and has no jutsus of mass destruction. Seriously? Firstly, let's remeber that he was stated to be the best ninja by jiraiya and 4th Raikage, which means they believed he was stronger than any of the past kages. Secondly, How much have we seen of Minato. People keep saying he just has FTG and Rasengan. Why would he use a stronger jutsu when the same result can be achieved with these two and waste more chakra.? Yes, he's not a show off. And I'm pretty sure he has much more destructive jutsus and elemental jutsus in his arsenal, but just never got a chance to show them in battle to us because of his little screen time. You can't be Hokage by mastering a couple of jutsus. So I reckon he does have jutsus that can get past Third Raikage's defense, for that matter.
Im sorry, not hater and not Fanboy, im a fan, your list really portrays you are a lot more biased that any Itachi fanboy could ever be. Go post that list in a thread if you want people to make fun of you, in my list Minato is 9 or tenth, but in your list Itachi is 15th? lol who is the hater now?
If you put Hanzo above Itachi, why don't you put Mifune as well? Hanzo is just hype. From what we've seen of him, i don't see him beating Itachi. Gaara also doesn't have his place there i think, and with Jiraya it coult go either way. I don't also see the 4th Raikage stronger. He is an idiot, and i don't see him winning Itachi. The 3rd also, i doubt really, but it's only my opinion. I see Itachi like a bad match up from them both.
Well I don't see Itachi beating any of the 14 shinobis that are placed above him its as simple as that.
The 1st 10 shinobis can beat him i.e. a sure win and as for the rest 11 to 14 they have a slight edge over Itachi. That's all.
...it means he is stronger than any other past kages??I've been hearing this a lot now. People say Minato doesn't even feature in top 15 ninjas now and has no jutsus of mass destruction. Seriously? Firstly, let's remeber that he was stated to be the best ninja by jiraiya and 4th Raikage, which means they believed he was stronger than any of the past kages. Secondly, How much have we seen of Minato. People keep saying he just has FTG and Rasengan. Why would he use a stronger jutsu when the same result can be achieved with these two and waste more chakra.? Yes, he's not a show off. And I'm pretty sure he has much more destructive jutsus and elemental jutsus in his arsenal, but just never got a chance to show them in battle to us because of his little screen time. You can't be Hokage by mastering a couple of jutsus. So I reckon he does have jutsus that can get past Third Raikage's defense, for that matter.
Im seriously not going to argue you why your list is really biased, but ill assure you only Minato fans/Itachi haters could agree with it, here is my list though and in every forum i posted its pretty much agreed on by most members and posters. I know you have your opinion and the Itachi/Minato debate has been done a thousand times already and it will always go to opinions from his fans, even though to most "not" Minato fans he lacks feats and hype to be put in top 10 because most of his hype comes from part 1, now Itachi has been hyped by probably the strongest character as a whole( Kabuto), a lot through Shippuden, in the War arc , now Kishi knows how the story will end, and how strong he would like every character to be, an example is how Hashirama now is the strongest Kage, when in part 1 was Hiruzen. With everything i said here is my list:
Well I don't see Itachi beating any of the 14 shinobis that are placed above him its as simple as that.
The 1st 10 shinobis can beat him i.e. a sure win and as for the rest 11 to 14 they have a slight edge over Itachi. That's all.
If you put Hanzo above Itachi, why don't you put Mifune as well? Hanzo is just hype. From what we've seen of him, i don't see him beating Itachi. Gaara also doesn't have his place there i think, and with Jiraya it coult go either way. I don't also see the 4th Raikage stronger. He is an idiot, and i don't see him winning Itachi. The 3rd also, i doubt really, but it's only my opinion. I see Itachi like a bad match up from them both.
Most people do, but i agree he is very hated because of that matter.I agree
I said Jiraiya and Raikage BELIEVED that he was stronger. It doesn't mean he was necessarily, but it does mean he was truly amazing. Wow, some people just love to put things out of context to prove their point....it means he is stronger than any other past kages??
I can see how underated Minato is....![]()
Im seriously not going to argue you why your list is really biased, but ill assure you only Minato fans/Itachi haters could agree with it, here is my list though and in every forum i posted its pretty much agreed on by most members and posters. I know you have your opinion and the Itachi/Minato debate has been done a thousand times already and it will always go to opinions from his fans, even though to most "not" Minato fans he lacks feats and hype to be put in top 10 because most of his hype comes from part 1, now Itachi has been hyped by probably the strongest character as a whole( Kabuto), a lot through Shippuden, in the War arc , now Kishi knows how the story will end, and how strong he would like every character to be, an example is how Hashirama now is the strongest Kage, when in part 1 was Hiruzen. With everything i said here is my list:
Top 10, whithout the sage and sons:
1.- Kabuto Yakushi(Sage Mode and Edo Tensei: with Edo Madara, Edo Nagato, Edo Kages etc..)
2.- Tobi (Rin'negan and Bijuus)
3.- BM Naruto Uzumaki
4.- Hashirama Senju
5.- Nagato Uzumaki
6.- EMS Madara Uchiha
7.- Itachi Uchiha
8.- EMS Sasuke Uchiha
9.- KM Naruto Uzumaki
10.- Minato Namikaze/Hiruzen Sarutobi.
I still consider Minato to be top 10, even if he lacks a lot of panel time and Jutsus to be there, and i still think that from 7-10 the characters are really close in gap.
Ps: when Sasuke shows his development he will probably go above Itachi.
Nagato couldn't beat Hanzo? He defeated his entire division, and Hanzo could do nothing else than fleeing away. Anyway if you believe that Hanzo is stronger cuz he defeated sannins when they were young(so not as strong as now by far), it's why i ask you why you don't put Mifune also, cuz he was able to handle Hanzo.1. Well the Sannins [supposedly in their Prime] couldn't beat Hanzo and they had everything from teamwork to powerful summons and Tsunade is a Medic as well... Also Nagato with Rinnegan couldn't beat Hanzo..[With his paths its a different case]
How? The only way i see Gaara having a chance against an Uchiha is in the desert, and even there, what could Gaara do against genjutsu(tsukiyomi)?2. Garra is the Anti-Uchiha Material from the Narutoverse. This is a deep topic but imo Garra has an edge over him.
Yes but like i've said he is maybe stronger but Itachi is bad match up for him, especially him cuz he doesn't have the same speed like his son and he will have to avoid being touch by Amaterasu. Not even him and his overpower could help against this jutsu.3. With the feats Third Raikage wins I mean the guy outlasted a Tailed beast...Plus Lightening is bad for water users.
4th Raikage has a better chance to push Itachi to his limits though, but like i've said, he is an idiot who see black flames but continue to attack like it was nothing. Against someone as intelligent as Itachi, he could pay it.4. With 4th Raikage...well Itachi doesn't have blaze release or enton kagutsuchi and that's the big dis-advantage also Lightening > Water.[/COLOR]