Minato Vs Hiruzen

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Judging how scared Hiruzen was of the 4th being revived if they were both in there prime than it would be a draw.
 

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The databook lists Hiruzen as the strongest of the five Kage. Those were written by the author himself.
link please ? ( this would def' end it )
Tho' author himself said they're equal.
 

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Hiruzen.

Two known element releases.
Has way more experience.
His Taijutsu is better and he has mastered all types of jutsu. Tobirama used space time which means he knows quite a bit about it considering he worked with him and was trained by him. And he knows every jutsu in the village (yes even FTG) which means he will find a weakness (Professor MF!).

Hiruzen mid-hard!
 

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link please ? ( this would def' end it )
Tho' author himself said they're equal.

Author never said that ^ ,fake interview

databook 1 2 and 3 , under hiruzen should have the strongest hokage thing

as well as konohamaru's databook page, they talk about hiruzen the strongest hokage being his grandfather


+iruka's manga statement saying he was considered to be the strongest hokage

just read this :|

i covered mostly everything but enma , who according to the myth he's based on was supposed to have 72 transformations (he showed 2) , water,wind release and a kkg cloud release

 

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From what's been shown between the two Minato would win.
 

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Hiruzen.

Two known element releases.
Has way more experience.
His Taijutsu is better and he has mastered all types of jutsu. Tobirama used space time which means he knows quite a bit about it considering he worked with him and was trained by him. And he knows every jutsu in the village (yes even FTG) which means he will find a weakness (Professor MF!).

Hiruzen mid-hard!

Doubt he can use FTG, or else he'd have used it, but i think he can use edo tensei.
If he wins it'd be def' high dif no doubt ^^
 

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Author never said that ^ ,fake interview

databook 1 2 and 3 , under hiruzen should have the strongest hokage thing

as well as konohamaru's databook page, they talk about hiruzen the strongest hokage being his grandfather


+iruka's manga statement saying he was considered to be the strongest hokage

just read this :|

i covered mostly everything but enma , who according to the myth he's based on was supposed to have 72 transformations (he showed 2) , water,wind release and a kkg cloud release




Nice explanation there, after this i'd def' give it to hiruzen high dif' cus' we dont have any databooks stats abt minato and we havnt seen enough of him, even tho that after searchin many databooks translation of sandaime page there's none stating he's the strongest hokage.
( Databook 3 :
Sarutobi Hiruzen

Main text

There is no Hokage in Konoha's history who was as popular with his people as Hiruzen. In addition to the ninjutsu expertise and skill for which he was nicknamed "The Professor", he bore in his heart a fatherly affection for the whole village of Konoha. Even for the rebellion-plotting Uchiha clan, he made no exception.

Captions (Top to bottom)

-The gentle warmth of a father who took Konoha in his soft embrace.

-So they can meet you again one day... When you're older.

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-He thought of every villager as a child of his own. Including even Orochimaru. )


But i woudnt go saying his the strongest hokage of all, i'd take madara's word over iruka's and oro. So i still think the strongest is hashirama. tho for now i go hiruzen > Minato.
Again thanks for that thread, nice explanation.
P.S : sorry for the double post.
 
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Hiruzen he's a master of taijustu genjustu and ninjustu and has knowlegde on alot of ninjustu minato uses 2 justus thats y I pick hiruzen
 

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minato of course. hiruzen prime was strong due to knowing alot of ninjutsu. what good would it do when hes blitzed by the fastest ninja ever?
 

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minato of course. hiruzen prime was strong due to knowing alot of ninjutsu. what good would it do when hes blitzed by the fastest ninja ever?

blitzed by the fastest ninja ever? don't kid yourself, people like you make minato seem undodgable...

what's minato going to do against the 1000+ genjutsu hiruzen mastered?

FTG CAN be countered.. any suiton can was up all his kunai, even bee , who's not a genius predicted minato's move, and stale mated him..

 

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blitzed by the fastest ninja ever? don't kid yourself, people like you make minato seem undodgable...

what's minato going to do against the 1000+ genjutsu hiruzen mastered?

FTG CAN be countered.. any suiton can was up all his kunai, even bee , who's not a genius predicted minato's move, and stale mated him..


What? When was it ever stated Hiruzen mastered a 1000+ genjutsu? I only recall Ebisu saying the hokage has to know 1000+ ninjutsu. Anyway do you have scans of said ninjutsu? If not then you really shouldn't bring it into a versus thread. Prime Hiruzen has ZERO feats, which is why people should keep him out of versus threads.

Bee made a lucky guess, nothing more. Minato could've appeared above him, beside him, in front of him and etc, but he appeared behind Bee where he had his sword ready.
 

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What? When was it ever stated Hiruzen mastered a 1000+ genjutsu? I only recall Ebisu saying the hokage has to know 1000+ ninjutsu. Anyway do you have scans of said ninjutsu? If not then you really shouldn't bring it into a versus thread. Prime Hiruzen has ZERO feats, which is why people should keep him out of versus threads.

Bee made a lucky guess nothing more. Minato could've appeared above him, beside him, in front of him and etc, but he appeared behind Bee where he had his kunai ready.

lucky guess? Lol yeah sure

and this ENTIRE Thread is based off of feats and hype.. Prime hiruzen has never been shown in the manga so you can just stfu with the feats only talk

By hype prime hiruzen IS the strongest hokage
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Viz english translation gives him 1000 genjutsu , and databooks give him a 5/5 in genjutsu


Your comment in this thread, which is based on hype since it included prime hiruzen is absolutely ridiculous , with that, good day
 

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lucky guess? Lol yeah sure

and this ENTIRE Thread is based off of feats and hype.. Prime hiruzen has never been shown in the manga so you can just stfu with the feats only talk

By hype prime hiruzen IS the strongest hokage
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Viz english translation gives him 1000 genjutsu , and databooks give him a 5/5 in genjutsu


Your comment in this thread, which is based on hype since it included prime hiruzen is absolutely ridiculous , with that, good day

And can you prove me wrong about Bee making a lucky guess? As I said Minato didn't have to appear behind him. He could've appeared anywhere around him and struck him, but fortunately for Bee he appeared behind him.

Sorry if I actually use logic instead of baseless hype when discussing who'd win in a versus thread. Unless you can show me these so called 1000+ genjutsu that Minato supposedly can't counter then you're simply wasting my time.
 
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And can you prove me wrong about Bee making a lucky guess? As I said Minato didn't have to appear behind him. He could've appeared anywhere around him and struck him, but fortunately for Bee he appeared behind him.

Sorry if I actually use logic instead of baseless hype when discussing who'd win in a versus thread. Unless you can show me these so called 1000+ genjutsu that Minato supposedly can't counter then you're simply wasting my time.

Then why are you here? you can get out the thread and not comment,,
wasting your time? prime hiruzen has no feats

honestly , why are you coming into a thread, about a character like white fang etc, with no feats, and then when people use his hype for a answer,telling them they can't do that? gtfo lol
 

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Then why are you here? you can get out the thread and not comment,,
wasting your time? prime hiruzen has no feats

honestly , why are you coming into a thread, about a character like white fang etc, with no feats, and then when people use his hype for a answer,telling them they can't do that? gtfo lol

Why am I here? Because I wanna be here. And when did I say they can't do that? They can do whatever they want.

I can say Ten Ten is the strongest shinobi in naruto, but is it very logical? No. I use logic when discussing verse threads instead of relying on baseless hype like you seem to do.
 

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Why am I here? Because I wanna be here. And when did I say they can't do that? They can do whatever they want.

I can say Ten Ten is the strongest shinobi in naruto, but is it very logical? No. I use logic when discussing verse threads instead of relying on baseless hype like you seem to do.

that's great, goodluck finding hype in the manga or databook to show ten ten was the strongest ninja ever -_-


fact is , in the OP the thread maker indicates hhype is allowed when he taljed about it.. why are you here going against the op? your opinions are irrelevant in this thread.. Great that you consider kishi's hype baseless, that's nice
 

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Have to agree that off hype Hiruzen wins.

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