Sasuke vs 3rd Raikage

[Gingka Uzumaki]

"He can counter lightning with lightning".
HA.

Hell Finger Stab would annihilate any Chidori Version.

 

[Unorthodox]

sasuke wins is serverly underrated on base

 

[sunnex]

There's no way sasuke will win. The 3rd raikage take this with ease

 

[Kyrik]

"He can't break full susanoo" ect

Okay, he can wait till sasuke runs out of stamina. Sasuke will never catch him with any attack and he can stay standing for days while fighting 10,000 shinobi, weeks with fighting one boy.

3rd with ease.

 

[TobisPawn]

Misconceptions in this thread:

1. A broke Sasuke's Susanoo, so 3rd can to!
WRONG - A few ribs can't be compared to a perfect Susanoo...

2. 3rd can easily dodge Amaterasu
WRONG - He'll have to hit a Blaze Released covered Susanoo. Not to mention Sasuke can now shoot Amaterasu orbs has he approaches Sasuke.

3. 3rd can speed blitz Sasuke
WRONG - A is faster than his dad. He has V2 lightning armor, the 3rd doesn't. Sasuke kept up with A at the start.

"He can't break full susanoo" ect

Okay, he can wait till sasuke runs out of stamina. Sasuke will never catch him with any attack and he can stay standing for days while fighting 10,000 shinobi, weeks with fighting one boy.

3rd with ease.

The 3rd died against 10,000 fodders.

Pre-MS Sasuke beat 1,000 fodders without killing them, and without getting a single scratch.

 

[Joki]

Is it really the popular opinion that the third Raikage wins this? I haven't read the entire thread but going by the first page and last posts I'm surprised.

There's very little of a chance for Sasuke to lose this, I'll admit in the fight with Kabuto thus far he hasn't got a chance to prove his worth, but his Susano'o is "Susano'o Plus". I absolutely love when people compare the current, Totsuka+Yata Mirror+Tengu Armor+Enton version of Sasuke's Susano'o to the version of the one that A broke. The last post in this thread and the OP I can't agree more with.

The Raikage's attacks are solely physical, if he can't get around Susano'o then there's no point. Sasuke can sit in Susano'o for the fight, I don't doubt this Raikage making the same mistake as A and trying to hit through Amaterasu cloaked Susano'o, big mistake.

There's quite a lot of factors on Sasuke's side so rather than randomly non orderly listing a bunch of reasons Sasuke wins I'll just leave it at that the Raikage can only use physical attacks, saying he can win against a complete Susano'o cloaked with Enton along with the Totsuka, mirror and Susano'o arrows, and every other technique in Sasuke's arsenal is ridiculous.

Also, if Raikage ever got a hit in, Sasuke can just heal back up to full health anyway since he's Dr. Snakes, the most skilled doctor in Naruto , true story.

Anyway, if you wanted to make the fight interesting I would in all honesty say to ban Susano'o altogether, or at least the complete version. Sasuke can still manage a win without Susano'o imo. Having the full EMS Susano'o is a pretty bad stomp in Sasuke's favor for obvious reasons.

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After skimming 1 more page I see the main argument is, "Raikage outlasts him, Sasuke can't hit him". Fair argument. Not really. Sasuke can literally spam Amaterasu now, the entire battle will be filled with Amaterasu. He will have literally no moving room without risk for taking himself out of the fight. Sasuke can create walls of Susano'o or make trails of it like Itachi did to follow after him, the "can't X forever" works on the reverseside as well. I'll also note he has only ever displayed the feats to react to these techniques, he has never ever showed incredible movement speed that is required to dodge some techniques.

He can jump and move to the side and whatnot to dodge the FRS but I've yet to see him run a distance or do anything impressive true-speed wise. It was never implied he was fast bar reaction speed, his hype was his durability, it was A who has the speed hype(however that still didn't stop him from 'losing' to incomplete pre-EMS exhausted Sasuke alone).

 

[TobisPawn]

Is it really the popular opinion that the third Raikage wins this? I haven't read the entire thread but going by the first page and last posts I'm surprised.

There's very little of a chance for Sasuke to lose this, I'll admit in the fight with Kabuto thus far he hasn't got a chance to prove his worth, but his Susano'o is "Susano'o Plus". I absolutely love when people compare the current, Totsuka+Yata Mirror+Tengu Armor+Enton version of Sasuke's Susano'o to the version of the one that A broke. The last post in this thread and the OP I can't agree more with.

The Raikage's attacks are solely physical, if he can't get around Susano'o then there's no point. Sasuke can sit in Susano'o for the fight, I don't doubt this Raikage making the same mistake as A and trying to hit through Amaterasu cloaked Susano'o, big mistake.

There's quite a lot of factors on Sasuke's side so rather than randomly non orderly listing a bunch of reasons Sasuke wins I'll just leave it at that the Raikage can only use physical attacks, saying he can win against a complete Susano'o cloaked with Enton along with the Totsuka, mirror and Susano'o arrows, and every other technique in Sasuke's arsenal is ridiculous.

Also, if Raikage ever got a hit in, Sasuke can just heal back up to full health anyway since he's Dr. Snakes, the most skilled doctor in Naruto , true story.

Anyway, if you wanted to make the fight interesting I would in all honesty say to ban Susano'o altogether, or at least the complete version. Sasuke can still manage a win without Susano'o imo. Having the full EMS Susano'o is a pretty bad stomp in Sasuke's favor for obvious reasons.

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After skimming 1 more page I see the main argument is, "Raikage outlasts him, Sasuke can't hit him". Fair argument. Not really. Sasuke can literally spam Amaterasu now, the entire battle will be filled with Amaterasu. He will have literally no moving room without risk for taking himself out of the fight. Sasuke can create walls of Susano'o or make trails of it like Itachi did to follow after him, the "can't X forever" works on the reverseside as well. I'll also note he has only ever displayed the feats to react to these techniques, he has never ever showed incredible movement speed that is required to dodge some techniques.

He can jump and move to the side and whatnot to dodge the FRS but I've yet to see him run a distance or do anything impressive true-speed wise. It was never implied he was fast bar reaction speed, his hype was his durability, it was A who has the speed hype(however that still didn't stop him from 'losing' to incomplete pre-EMS exhausted Sasuke alone).

Sasuke doesn't have the two bolded things. I agree with the rest of your post, though.

 

[Joki]

Sasuke doesn't have the two bolded things. I agree with the rest of your post, though.

I don't know why people don't think this, his Totsuka is covered in Amaterasu. He took Itachi's eyes, they were spiritual items bound to his eyes/jutsu,naturally they carry over. On his EMS reveal page you can easily see them both.

But if he doesn't have them and they're comparable weapons then he has a huge shield and Amaterasu covered spiritual extendable sword which are both easily comparable, and which the shield still gives plenty extra defense being the Tengu-Armored Susano'o nonetheless. Not like the Raikage will be breaking through it anyway though so not like it matters

 

[TobisPawn]

I don't know why people don't think this, his Totsuka is covered in Amaterasu. He took Itachi's eyes, they were spiritual items bound to his eyes/jutsu,naturally they carry over. On his EMS reveal page you can easily see them both.

But if he doesn't have them and they're comparable weapons then he has a huge shield and Amaterasu covered spiritual extendable sword which are both easily comparable, and which the shield still gives plenty extra defense being the Tengu-Armored Susano'o nonetheless. Not like the Raikage will be breaking through it anyway though so not like it matters

Its debatable on if he has them, I guess.

But yeah, he still does have that Amaterasu Sword, and he can probably make a shield too.

 

[Joki]

Its debatable on if he has them, I guess.

But yeah, he still does have that Amaterasu Sword, and he can probably make a shield too.

Heh, I did say about the entire battlefield being covered in Amaterasu after awhile especially if he spams it but if he utilizes the 'Amaterotsuka' it should be even simpler then. Basically every battle Sasuke has been in after awakening the MS(not just EMS), the entire battlefield around him was covered in Amaterasu so it happening here is just a given

 

[Yukimura]

Misconceptions in this thread:

1. A broke Sasuke's Susanoo, so 3rd can to!
WRONG - A few ribs can't be compared to a perfect Susanoo...

2. 3rd can easily dodge Amaterasu
WRONG - He'll have to hit a Blaze Released covered Susanoo. Not to mention Sasuke can now shoot Amaterasu orbs has he approaches Sasuke.

3. 3rd can speed blitz Sasuke
WRONG - A is faster than his dad. He has V2 lightning armor, the 3rd doesn't. Sasuke kept up with A at the start.



The 3rd died against 10,000 fodders.

Pre-MS Sasuke beat 1,000 fodders without killing them, and without getting a single scratch.

Lol I was just about to post something back to him but you beat me to it haha... Rep+

I've been saying the bolded part for the longest but people just refuse to read smh. He took them out non-lethally and without sharingan too. :sy:

 

[TobisPawn]

Lol I was just about to post something back to him but you beat me to it haha... Rep+

I've been saying the bolded part for the longest but people just refuse to read smh. He took them out non-lethally and without sharingan too. :sy:

Yeah, Sasuke's being heavily underrated on this thread.

 

[Prince Charles]

when i see sasuke fight 10,000 ninjas for 3 days straight then ill consider it.

 

[TobisPawn]

when i see sasuke fight 10,000 ninjas for 3 days straight then ill consider it.

Sasuke beat 1,000 ninjas without killing them and without taking a scratch, before he even had the MS.

 

[Yukimura]

when i see sasuke fight 10,000 ninjas for 3 days straight then ill consider it.

Sasuke beat 1,000 ninjas without killing them and without taking a scratch, before he even had the MS.

In less than a day without breaking a sweat lol... The 3rd Raikage died after only 10,000 fodder??? Pshaw...

Plus, no MS means he didn't even have Amaterasu, Susanoo, or Tsukiyomi. :shrug:

 

[Joki]

when i see sasuke fight 10,000 ninjas for 3 days straight then ill consider it.

The challenge wasn't "survive 3 days against 10,000 fodder" it was just "beat 10,000 fodder", Raikage failed to do so. Sasuke managed to beat 1,000 without a scratch before he got the Mangekyou Sharingan(and not killing them is an even more impressive feat), so I'm not doubting his ability to replicate Raikage's.

Regardless, that's quite the case of ABC Logic in any case, Sasuke is literally one of the worst matchups considering his near invulnerability to physical attacks. Or rather defense against all of Raikage's behind Susano'o, when he has no way to get around it.

Also, this is the kind of thing I am saying, basic reason why Raikage loses:

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[6pathofpain]

Is it really the popular opinion that the third Raikage wins this? I haven't read the entire thread but going by the first page and last posts I'm surprised.

There's very little of a chance for Sasuke to lose this, I'll admit in the fight with Kabuto thus far he hasn't got a chance to prove his worth, but his Susano'o is "Susano'o Plus". I absolutely love when people compare the current, Totsuka+Yata Mirror+Tengu Armor+Enton version of Sasuke's Susano'o to the version of the one that A broke. The last post in this thread and the OP I can't agree more with.

The Raikage's attacks are solely physical, if he can't get around Susano'o then there's no point. Sasuke can sit in Susano'o for the fight, I don't doubt this Raikage making the same mistake as A and trying to hit through Amaterasu cloaked Susano'o, big mistake.

There's quite a lot of factors on Sasuke's side so rather than randomly non orderly listing a bunch of reasons Sasuke wins I'll just leave it at that the Raikage can only use physical attacks, saying he can win against a complete Susano'o cloaked with Enton along with the Totsuka, mirror and Susano'o arrows, and every other technique in Sasuke's arsenal is ridiculous.

Also, if Raikage ever got a hit in, Sasuke can just heal back up to full health anyway since he's Dr. Snakes, the most skilled doctor in Naruto , true story.

Anyway, if you wanted to make the fight interesting I would in all honesty say to ban Susano'o altogether, or at least the complete version. Sasuke can still manage a win without Susano'o imo. Having the full EMS Susano'o is a pretty bad stomp in Sasuke's favor for obvious reasons.

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After skimming 1 more page I see the main argument is, "Raikage outlasts him, Sasuke can't hit him". Fair argument. Not really. Sasuke can literally spam Amaterasu now, the entire battle will be filled with Amaterasu. He will have literally no moving room without risk for taking himself out of the fight. Sasuke can create walls of Susano'o or make trails of it like Itachi did to follow after him, the "can't X forever" works on the reverseside as well. I'll also note he has only ever displayed the feats to react to these techniques, he has never ever showed incredible movement speed that is required to dodge some techniques.

He can jump and move to the side and whatnot to dodge the FRS but I've yet to see him run a distance or do anything impressive true-speed wise. It was never implied he was fast bar reaction speed, his hype was his durability, it was A who has the speed hype(however that still didn't stop him from 'losing' to incomplete pre-EMS exhausted Sasuke alone).

Im not gonna get to into this but...

1. The 3rd is way stronger than A which has been stated

2. His lightning sheild is stronger which has also been stated

3. Suaske DOES NOT HAVE ITACHI'S SWORD OTHE MIRROR SHEILD

4. A would of killed sasuke an probably died to in that fight, gaara saved them both A didnt lose.

5. Since when could sasuke heal himself to full health?

 

[6pathofpain]

The challenge wasn't "survive 3 days against 10,000 fodder" it was just "beat 10,000 fodder", Raikage failed to do so. Sasuke managed to beat 1,000 without a scratch before he got the Mangekyou Sharingan(and not killing them is an even more impressive feat), so I'm not doubting his ability to replicate Raikage's.

Regardless, that's quite the case of ABC Logic in any case, Sasuke is literally one of the worst matchups considering his near invulnerability to physical attacks. Or rather defense against all of Raikage's behind Susano'o, when he has no way to get around it.

Also, this is the kind of thing I am saying, basic reason why Raikage loses:

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We've seen everyone but itachi's suasnoo get ****ed up. Suasnoo is not unbreakable an if anyone can do it, it would be the 3rd raikage, tsunade, an A. AN the 3rd is probably the strongest. THe 3rd will destroy sasuke.

 

[Joki]

Im not gonna get to into this but...

1. The 3rd is way stronger than A which has been stated

When was this stated. His finger technique is very similar to Chidori and it is a piercing technique, his physical power has never been stated to be better than A's. Even if it was, A barely broke 3 ribs, he's not getting past 5 layered tengu armor Susano'o with shield, cloaked in Amaterasu. It doesn't really matter how much stronger he is than A, since Tsunade is plenty stronger than both of them and she only broke through an incomplete version, A can barely break the ribs of them.

2. His lightning sheild is stronger which has also been stated

Totally irrelevant when there's Amaterasu everywhere and he can't get to Sasuke.

3. Suaske DOES NOT HAVE ITACHI'S SWORD OTHE MIRROR SHEILD

Since I won't be doing any convincing on that behalf sure, but he has a huge sword cloaked in Amaterasu and a self-proclaimed perfect defense fully armored, complete Susano'o

4. A would of killed sasuke an probably died to in that fight, gaara saved them both A didnt lose.

I believe you've forgotten how many people were on A's side, that Sasuke was fighting the 5 kages, the fact his Susano'o was 50 times weaker or more, the fact he only had MS, the fact that A had to cut off his arm to avoid being killed by Susano'o, and the links I posted where Sasuke simply created a wall of Amaterasu all around him. Raikage is screwed if he thinks he's going to run through a huge wall of Amaterasu. He can't break through Susano'o anyway.

5. Since when could sasuke heal himself to full health?

That was a joke.

We've seen everyone but itachi's suasnoo get ****ed up. Suasnoo is not unbreakable an if anyone can do it, it would be the 3rd raikage, tsunade, an A. AN the 3rd is probably the strongest. THe 3rd will destroy sasuke.

Since when has Sasuke's completed EMS Susano'o get ****ed up? The Susano'o of his that I saw which was destroyed only had its ribs. Please refer to the first post and view the 2 scans where it says "THIS DOES NOT EQUAL THIS". Sasuke's current Susano'o is superior to Itachi's at the moment, bar the Yata Mirror which really doesn't make much of a difference in this scenario anyway.

 

[Uchihas with Big Guns]

when i see sasuke fight 10,000 ninjas for 3 days straight then ill consider it.

You must have not noticed BUT sasuke is built to fight multiple opponents & to fight at all ranges

Exhibit A: defeated 1000 fodders
Exhibit B: defeated group of zetsu
Exhibit C: defeated team yamato
Exhibit D: defeated group of samurai
(3 days isn't needed sasuke has moves of mass destruction)

When the 3rd raikage flys then I might give him a shot