Naruto's Eyes are better than Sharingan

[EnvyMyApex]

Although it's frowned upon, I think it's okay to call this thread retarded just by reading the title...

 

[The Necromancer]

Although it's frowned upon, I think it's okay to call this thread retarded just by reading the title...

Just like people who read the title, and not the original post.

 

[ghetto gladiator]

Is anyone READING this...? If you can move at speeds faster than light, then you can SEE at speeds faster than light.

makes sense, or else he'll be blindly speeding into random crap

 

[Hard2bringdown]

OK buddy, naruto does NOT move faster then FTG technique. He just moves so fast that all you see is a yellow flash. FTG is instantaneous, and since it manipulates S/T, then it can't even be counted as speed.

If you were to move at the speed of light from earth to the next closest galaxy, it would take you billions of years to reach it even when moving so fast. If you were to teleport there, then you would move from the earth to said galaxy instantly, since it allows the user to move between two places instantly.

Therefore speed<instantaneous

i knew for certain you were wayyyyyyyyyyy off with the billions of years to reach Andromeda so here is what i found,(still a long time but not billions)= Light would reach it in 2.2 million years, but according to Einstein's relativity, a spaceship can only get infinitely close to the speed of light , but never reach it. At that sort of speed, due to time dilation , a spaceship would get there almost instantly, but it would take an almost infinite amount of energy.


So a spaceship very very close to the speed of light could reach it in minutes, whereas on Earth 2.2 million years would have passed

 

[Hard2bringdown]

but anywho, from the point of techniques, no, is obvious the sharigan is better than naruto's eyes, since his eyes cant do techniques to begin with. Now, if we take into account sage mode eyes, i actually think the eyes arent what make the difference, at least not entirely, they are just a sign of him being a sage, instead his senses as a whole, not just his eyes, are buffed up, thus, his reaction time as well, he can sense an oponent instead of having to see him, and as for his eyes, if he can percieve things bettter than maybe that must be that his eyes can pick up things that move fast compared to what he used to be able to follow. And in the scenario that you have a very fast oponent, think about it this way:

There's a greater advantage in been able to sense your oponent and thus know from which direction he is coming as well as been able to guess at which point he is going to show up (in case you counter attacked but he dodged and now youre attacking again at the spot you think hes moving towards to) than having eyes that can pick up things at high sppeds but that are limited to a certain speed, and beyond that they cant follow.

 

[Viewtiful]

Minato's Flying Thunder God technique IS instantaneous, not close too. There is no such thing as close to being instantaneous. Naruto cannot be faster than something that ignores the time aspect of speed and acceleration.
That's all I have to say. x)

 

[The Necromancer]

makes sense, or else he'll be blindly speeding into random crap

Exactly. And awesome sig! Ha!

 

[Dr Dark Knight]

where in the manga does it say that naruto or ftg move at the speed of light? if u move at speed of light, you turn into energy. And even if u did move at speed of light, no eyes could see anything. its as if you outrun sound, and it never reaches ur ears. I know some physics as well. can you prove that jutsus can be performed? comeon man u cant put science in manga. its fiction.

 

[MangekyouJ]

its like when kakashi developed the chidori, he couldnt controll it because of his normal eyes then when he got the sharingan he could see better, and naruto since hes running extremely fast, his reaction time and direction is much better than the normal eye and maybe or par with the sharingan in terms of vision not jutsu.

WTH.......TROLL!!!!!! What manga are you reading from that says that Kakashi couldn't control his own technique??? You are trolling so hard is't pathetic....

 

[Dazuza360]

Thirdly even if naruto's eyes have such ability doesnt make it better than the sharingan overall. It might have its advantage over the sharingan in this area alone and thats about it

Wat he said.

 

[divine god]

i think you know the answer by now . Good job finding this plothole.

Please make a conclusion of your thoughts so far thank you!

 

[Nanohelix]

I have not read the 30 pages this thread has, and I don't usually post anything, but I am still going to clear a couple of things from the original post.

First of all, from a biological and neurological viewpoint, one's ability to perceive at high velocity or to perceive someone moving at high velocity is not an ability of the eye alone. Our eyes have much higher perception rate than what we see, for the reason that our brain can not handle this high rate of information, it is too much to process in such a short time. Faster reflexes are developed in the brain to allow faster perception, or do you hear anyone saying that someone has awesome eyes if they're reflexes are good? Or does a fly have better eyes than humans because they can perceive faster? No, that's only a property of a fly's brain. In many cases even if our brain can actually process something really fast, we might not consciously "see" it, this is how subliminal messaging works also. Ofcourse at some point eyes' properties will become a wall, but that limit I do not know. The point is, perceiving at high speed does not necessarily imply to better eyes.

From a physical point of view, if we assume that the movement during the flying thunder god technique or Naruto's tailed beast form are at anywhere near the speed of light, as the original posts assumes, or even at extremely high, though slower than the speed of light, velocities, time itself will slow down. In four dimentional space, Eintein's - Riemann's space or spacetime continuum, one's location is defined in four coordinates instead of three as we usually think, and one's velocity is defined by an ortonormalized foursocket vector. If the distance travelled is kept constant, but velocity increases, time spent travelling must decrease, which will in four dimentional space lead to a shorter foursocket vector from only one edge and that edge is time. This will cause the traveller to experience time outside of his own frame at slower pace, in which case he could easily perceive everything happening around him without the need of 'better eyes'. However this would not allow them to perceive someone else moving at high speed, but it would answer to the question of how can Naruto aim during his fast movement.

Nanohelix.

 

[Dazuza360]

When someone says normal eyes are better than the Sharingan you pull out your shotgun and shoot them in da face. jks
Naruto's eyes MAY BE better at visual perception, as in the ability to move at high speeds without going dizzy and his vision staying clear etc. But it only means his eyes are better in this one aspect. The genjutsu and other various powerful ninjutsu that the sharingan allows the user to fight with are way beyond anything the normal eye could produce obviously. So it isn't correct to say any one thing (naruto's eyes) is better than the other (sharingan) unless it is better in all ways, which it clearly isn't. Please correct me if i'm wrong.

 

[Dazuza360]

Also that is a plot hole because moving fast causes tunnel vision

True.

 

[Dazuza360]

huh?

hahaha lol
wat this cool cat said

 

[Dr Dark Knight]

I have not read the 30 pages this thread has, and I don't usually post anything, but I am still going to clear a couple of things from the original post.

First of all, from a biological and neurological viewpoint, one's ability to perceive at high velocity or to perceive someone moving at high velocity is not an ability of the eye alone. Our eyes have much higher perception rate than what we see, for the reason that our brain can not handle this high rate of information, it is too much to process in such a short time. Faster reflexes are developed in the brain to allow faster perception, or do you hear anyone saying that someone has awesome eyes if they're reflexes are good? Or does a fly have better eyes than humans because they can perceive faster? No, that's only a property of a fly's brain. In many cases even if our brain can actually process something really fast, we might not consciously "see" it, this is how subliminal messaging works also. Ofcourse at some point eyes' properties will become a wall, but that limit I do not know. The point is, perceiving at high speed does not necessarily imply to better eyes.

From a physical point of view, if we assume that the movement during the flying thunder god technique or Naruto's tailed beast form are at anywhere near the speed of light, as the original posts assumes, or even at extremely high, though slower than the speed of light, velocities, time itself will slow down. In four dimentional space, Eintein's - Riemann's space or spacetime continuum, one's location is defined in four coordinates instead of three as we usually think, and one's velocity is defined by an ortonormalized foursocket vector. If the distance travelled is kept constant, but velocity increases, time spent travelling must decrease, which will in four dimentional space lead to a shorter foursocket vector from only one edge and that edge is time. This will cause the traveller to experience time outside of his own frame at slower pace, in which case he could easily perceive everything happening around him without the need of 'better eyes'. However this would not allow them to perceive someone else moving at high speed, but it would answer to the question of how can Naruto aim during his fast movement.

Nanohelix.

pea brain

 

[majid]

good explaination

 

[dinu23]

wat u need to say is that narutos eyes are on par with the sharingan when considering the sharingan's ability to predict and view quick movements.....not that narutos eyes far outweigh the ability of the legendary uchiha's cursed eye....the sharingan is still powerful....bt referin to the speed...considering that naruto has ordinary eyes, they are on par with the sharingan...

***P.S***
Pls make ur thread easier to understand so less conflicts will occur around here....
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[The Necromancer]

I have not read the 30 pages this thread has, and I don't usually post anything, but I am still going to clear a couple of things from the original post.

First of all, from a biological and neurological viewpoint, one's ability to perceive at high velocity or to perceive someone moving at high velocity is not an ability of the eye alone. Our eyes have much higher perception rate than what we see, for the reason that our brain can not handle this high rate of information, it is too much to process in such a short time. Faster reflexes are developed in the brain to allow faster perception, or do you hear anyone saying that someone has awesome eyes if they're reflexes are good? Or does a fly have better eyes than humans because they can perceive faster? No, that's only a property of a fly's brain. In many cases even if our brain can actually process something really fast, we might not consciously "see" it, this is how subliminal messaging works also. Ofcourse at some point eyes' properties will become a wall, but that limit I do not know. The point is, perceiving at high speed does not necessarily imply to better eyes.

From a physical point of view, if we assume that the movement during the flying thunder god technique or Naruto's tailed beast form are at anywhere near the speed of light, as the original posts assumes, or even at extremely high, though slower than the speed of light, velocities, time itself will slow down. In four dimentional space, Eintein's - Riemann's space or spacetime continuum, one's location is defined in four coordinates instead of three as we usually think, and one's velocity is defined by an ortonormalized foursocket vector. If the distance travelled is kept constant, but velocity increases, time spent travelling must decrease, which will in four dimentional space lead to a shorter foursocket vector from only one edge and that edge is time. This will cause the traveller to experience time outside of his own frame at slower pace, in which case he could easily perceive everything happening around him without the need of 'better eyes'. However this would not allow them to perceive someone else moving at high speed, but it would answer to the question of how can Naruto aim during his fast movement.

Nanohelix.

Pretty much what i was going for. I summed it up as, at high speeds naruto's eyes are better as they can see anything moving at equal or lesser speeds, while standing still the sharingan is better as it can perceive objects at equal or greater speeds.

 

[zombiejesus]

well then A has better eyes as well and no just no