naruto kyuubi
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mad one and then mostly all the kages are evil they seal ****ing monsters into child before their birth and creating monsters aswell.
[Discussion] was oro even evil?
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naruto kyuubi
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reason should not justify the process if you see that way because what is village without humans. and oro did it to gain knowledge become the thing which is thought unattainable. danzo did the same both were afraid to die they tried to become the absolute being oro was a genius who danzo used. and i am not saying danzo is evil. let me clarify only hidan and kakuzu are evil for they do the killing for the feel of destruction alone they are what the bijus were considered to be.sasori, oro, nagato, itachi, danzo hell even madara does it for a goal which is good at somepoint. tobi wants peace aswell but he is using a wrong path and hence has to be slain. oro wanted knowledge again by wrong path had to be slain, sasori wanted perfect existence again by wrong means had to be removed. nagato was more or less the same. these guys are bad true but they are like deep grey not black.
naruto kyuubi
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danzo wanted to be hokage thats all there is of his story. every thing he did was to gain power trying save konoha my foot where was he during the invasion. where was he when nagato leveled the entire village if thats not selfishness sorry i dont know what selfishness means. sasuke is selfish as well he is suffering from guilt trip and think killing konoha would ease him.
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Danzo actually was selfless IMO. The moments right before he died proved it. "For Konoha...!! For the ninja world!!" right before trying to kill Tobi and Sasuke, which would've stopped the War right there. Also, IMO, he was right about the Third's and Tsunade's policies failing. "Oh, Suna hates us, invite to Chunin Exams. Oto extremely mysterious, trust Oto. Uchiha plotting violent coup, useless diplomacy time." I could go on. And I don't understand that last sentence. Who cares if Sasuke is in his happy place if the price is Konoha?
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Orochimagus
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Orochimaru is beyond good and evil. He has no sense of ethics and cares for knowledge in its purest form. Unlike Sasuke or say Tobi, he didn't enjoy random, merciless killing. When he killed people he always had a deeper purpose in mind. Even Hiruzen Sarutobi said that Orochimaru was not a person to focus on mere revenge, and that he has hidden motives.
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oro was a cold evil manipulator. he liked watching people suffer, killed the third and half the leaf because he like seeing things in motion, used and threw away hundreds of people for his own sick experiments, used the edo tensei jutsu which makes tools of the dead, and murdered gaara's father.
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It actually is a very interesting question. We don't typically think of Danzo as being evil. Danzo was misguided and his actions were kind of jerkish, but I don't think he was evil. Danzo was the kind of guy for whom the ends justified the means. He was willing to do bad things now, to achieve good things later. Some people might disagree with me, but that's my interpretation. He ordered the slaughter of the Uchiha to help prevent a larger war (and, to get himself a load of free sharingans). You can't argue that between the slaughter of the Uchiha and the invasion of Konoha by Orochimaru that there was peace and stability.
And we know that Danzo and Orochimaru were working together. Danzo's sharingans and hashirama DNA were either implanted or enhanced by Orochimaru. And we know that Danzo didn't allow Root to help defend Konoha when Orochimaru invaded.
Is it possible that Orochimaru and Danzo were a team? That Orochimaru was still loyal to Danzo, and was working on a secret under-cover mission of illegal medical research, research and infiltration of Akatsuki, and actually helping Konoha through secret means? Is it possible that Danzo and Orochimaru agreed to kill Hiruzen, because Hiruzen was getting old and weak and a new Hokage was needed for the village to remain strong and protected? After Minato died, Hiruzen didn't search for a new hokage, and he was getting older and weaker over time.
We know that Itachi did bad things but was secretly a "good guy" in many ways. He kept track of Akatsuki and reported information about their movements back to Konoha. He also prevented Akatsuki from attacking Konoha directly until after his death. Yeah it sucks that he killed the Uchiha, but he did what he did because he was trying to prevent war and keep the village safe and peaceful. Itachi was ordered to do the massacre by Danzo, and likely stayed at least partially loyal to him over the years. (Tobi said that Itachi was trying to warn Danzo when he came back to the village the first time, but that might have been Tobi lying. Itachi might have still been loyal to Danzo).
Let's put out a theory that secretly Orochimaru was a "good guy" by some definition and was loyal to the village. The plan goes something like this:
1) Orochimaru forms the hidden sound village, kills the Kazekage and forms an alliance with Sunagakure.
2) Orochimaru invades Konoha, with permission from Danzo and kills Hiruzen, the weak old Hokage.
3) Danzo finally leads a defense and ends the invasion. He becomes the new, stronger hokage.
4) Danzo, with his sharingan and Hashirama DNA, is able to take the 1-tail from Gaara, giving two tailed beasts to Konoha.
5) Sunagakure, without it's jinchuuriki and without a Kazekage is extremely weak. That village is forced to either form a permanent military alliance with Konoha or, better yet, surrender unconditionally and become a possession of Konoha.
6) Likewise, with Orochimaru in the lead, The Hidden Sound village becomes a military ally for Konoha. Orochimaru is able to continue "illegal" research there, which can be used to help make Konoha stronger.
If you think about the plan this way, Konoha actually becomes much stronger, gains an extra tailed beast, and removes a potential enemy village from its list of threats. It's actually a kind of good thing, in the long term. With the combined power of three hidden villages, two jinchuurikis and Itachi and Orochimaru on their side, it would have been possible for Konoha to fight Akatsuki itself, and prevent the fourth world war from happening.
I dont' know if any of this is true, but it is very interesting to think about it.
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He kills without remorse and not in a defensive posture either, he also uses peoples bodies and disposes of them without blinking an eye. I would characterize that as being very evil, he even derives pleasure from those experiences, so if that isn't evil, I'm not sure what is.
