Hiruzen Sarutobi: "The GOD of shinobi" arguments

who is stronger

  • Hiruzen (3rd Hokage)

    Votes: 239 33.8%
  • Hashirama (1st Hokage)

    Votes: 469 66.2%

  • Total voters
    708
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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!


Are you retarded?

Tell me..

Who has shishui beaten?

Who has izuna beaten?

Who has Tobirama beaten?

Who has the third kazekage beaten?

Who did ems madara beat ? other than kid oonoki
KISHI can't put every fight since the beginning of ninja time into the manga..
he has used hype for us to know that shishui was a ninja as strong as itachi, one of the strongest in the uchiha clan... Feared globally as shishui of the body flicker. and feared as being the best genjutsu user of the uchiha

izuna was hyped to be as strong as madara.. equals..

Tobirama was hyped to be one of the strongest of his time.. Greatest suiton user known to man... Genius and space time user rivaling that of minato's

You obviously do not know what hype is, or what it does in a story, you're retarded , this much is obvious
Its obvious that if you want to call someone the strongest ninja ever you should probably have at least one win to back it up. I'm sorry for asking why the strongest ninja ever doesn't have one win under his belt. Why has no one even mentioned one of his fights. It is obvious your arguement is filled with the same bull crap that is coming out of your diaper at the moment. The most obvious thing is that U MAD BRO :D:D:D:D:D:D:):):):):):):flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw:
 

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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

I wanna see his comeback of theory fanboy bulls'hit haha
lmao , the strongest ninja known to man

defeated by random unknown ninja


this deserves a meme


I also love how none of them can list the ninjas kabuto was talking about that are on hashi's level :), would love to see the names of all the ninjas that can solo 5 kages!
 

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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

he can beat them 5vs1. madara heavily implied it when he compared there powers.
Hashirama cant beat gaara, A, and oonki 3vs1... so he for sure cant beat all 5..
A is too fast and oonki's dust release is to powerful.. Dust release would blow the trees to dust.. and gaara's sand could catch hashirama and coffin him..

Against edo madara they had to fight wood release, 2 meteors, powerful fire tech, Crazy taijutsu, and infinte chakra... Hashirama doesnt have that, excpet kkg wood release..Thats it.
 

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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

Its obvious that if you want to call someone the strongest ninja ever you should probably have at least one win to back it up. I'm sorry for asking why the strongest ninja ever doesn't have one win under his belt. Why has no one even mentioned one of his fights. It is obvious your arguement is filled with the same bull crap that is coming out of your diaper at the moment. The most obvious thing is that U MAD BRO :D:D:D:D:D:D:):):):):):):flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw:
Hey! I posted something too you can quote more than once in a post lol
 

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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

I wanna see his comeback of theory fanboy bulls'hit haha
the manga just said he died in war. where did the manga say he got killed by a jonin level ninja. i like how you automatically like to assume hashirama got killed by fodder to make him look weak.
 

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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

lmao thats all you can go on is theres no one to credit Hiruzen of fighting smh, apparently Hiruzen fought enough people to gain such prestige, nameless or not. Let me ask you this, who killed Hashirama?.......... Exactly someone we don't even see in the series, a nameless shinobi, your statement is void. And apparently Hiruzen did something better that Hashirama, he actually lived to see old age. If there were no more shinobi of Madara & Hashirama's calibur how did he defeat Madara but get killed in his prime?..... I'll wait.... And please don't come at me with that "you're crying" bull this ain't no MTV cyberbullying special save that s'hit chief....
Apparently Hiruzen never fought a real ninja that anyone cared about. He lived to see old age because he never fought anyone stronger than a jounin. I was real impressed when he first became hokage. His first job was to run away and let the 2nd hokage die. He defeating Madara because he is a real ninja. Real ninja fight. SMH how you are going to call someone the strongest out of everyone in the series and we have never seen the loser win a fight his life. The only thing you people have going for you is Iruka who has never seen the Harashimia in a fight. He probably never saw Hiruzen in a fight either because the man never fought. Stop being butthurt you lost Chief:p
 

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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

Hashirama cant beat gaara, A, and oonki 3vs1... so he for sure cant beat all 5..
A is too fast and oonki's dust release is to powerful.. Dust release would blow the trees to dust.. and gaara's sand could catch hashirama and coffin him..

Against edo madara they had to fight wood release, 2 meteors, powerful fire tech, Crazy taijutsu, and infinte chakra... Hashirama doesnt have that, excpet kkg wood release..Thats it.
hashirama has mokuton clones, can make forests in an instant, advanced tsunade like healing. he has the most mastery of mokuton. all of the kages attacks get healed or he shields himself with a wood wall. btw edos dont have unlimited chakra.
 

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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

lmao , the strongest ninja known to man

defeated by random unknown ninja


this deserves a meme


I also love how none of them can list the ninjas kabuto was talking about that are on hashi's level :), would love to see the names of all the ninjas that can solo 5 kages!
Teuchi, Ichiraku Ramen Shop Owner, the man that killed Hashirama with food poisoning LMFAO!!!!!
 

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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

the manga just said he died in war. where did the manga say he got killed by a jonin level ninja. i like how you automatically like to assume hashirama got killed by fodder to make him look weak.

make him look weak?LOL


isn't this the man you say can not only solo the 5 kage

but Win against edo rinnegan/hashirama infused madara?

he must be a god?
yes, that's right.. a god among men..


yet he died in war? burrrr?

 

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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

Please stop saying Hiruzen lost to orochimaru, because worst can be said about Hashirama..

1. Hashirama died young.. If he was as OP as you say he is, to where he could beat this OP edo MADARA, then he wouldnt have died and would have been hokage either as long or longer than Hiruzen.. At least we can say Hiruzen died BEATING orochimaru. We dont know what (weak) shinobi killed your (so called) GOD hashirama. and the only reason i call the shinobi weak is because nobody gives him credit for killing hashirama which means he was probally an assasin.. smh

2. Madara said hashirama would put up a better fight, but he never said hashirama could beat him.. EDO Madara would curb stomp Hashirama w/ low diff.

3. Think about this.. Hahsirama can suppress tailed beat chakra, after which point they are basically just like summon level monsters. thats not a big feat beating a summon, Ten-ten can beat a summon..
Its like when the warden from blood prison put the seal on naruto and supressed his chakra, after that he could easily beat naruto, but if naruto removed the seal he would easily whooped the warden's @$$.. Point made..
Okay so Orochimaru walked away from the fight and Hiruzen died.. And you call that a win for Hiruzen? A tie for Hiruzen? No a loss.

Hash survived and defeated kakazu who had a hit on Hash.. Whoever killed him must have been far greater than hash, but that's okay if the bijuu's , Madara , were no match for hash, who is? Some third party that we'll never know of.

I never said Edo Madara would lose to Hash if you'd read, but the fAct that hash is a better match up then 5 f@&$ing kages for Madara, that shows how strong Hash is. Edo madara's op as ****k.

Think about this, it's the 9 fcuking tails buddy and Hash controlled that fool . Even if he can control bijuu's it wouldn't be a piece of cake especially for the 9 tails.. Smh :flaw:
Then he beat Madara at the same time , EMS Madara.. Able to create meteors, susanoo, koton expert, etc.
 
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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

Apparently Hiruzen never fought a real ninja that anyone cared about. He lived to see old age because he never fought anyone stronger than a jounin. I was real impressed when he first became hokage. His first job was to run away and let the 2nd hokage die. He defeating Madara because he is a real ninja. Real ninja fight. SMH how you are going to call someone the strongest out of everyone in the series and we have never seen the loser win a fight his life. The only thing you people have going for you is Iruka who has never seen the Harashimia in a fight. He probably never saw Hiruzen in a fight either because the man never fought. Stop being butthurt you lost Chief:p
Hiruzen was following the orders of the hokage at the time, he had to do as he was told, but b4 that he offered to go fight the assasins himself, so dont try to play him..:flaw:
 

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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

Apparently Hiruzen never fought a real ninja that anyone cared about. He lived to see old age because he never fought anyone stronger than a jounin. I was real impressed when he first became hokage. His first job was to run away and let the 2nd hokage die. He defeating Madara because he is a real ninja. Real ninja fight. SMH how you are going to call someone the strongest out of everyone in the series and we have never seen the loser win a fight his life. The only thing you people have going for you is Iruka who has never seen the Harashimia in a fight. He probably never saw Hiruzen in a fight either because the man never fought. Stop being butthurt you lost Chief:p
Chief....how do you know what level of shinobi Hiruzen has fought if you've only seen or heard of only 1 of his battles, you don't. Your post doesn't even make since -"he never fought anyone stronger than a jounin".... what rank was Orochimaru again?(use this just to prove your statement) Sannin right? And you still didn't answer my question.... Who killed Hashirama? O you don't know that 1 either just stop posting
 

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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

the manga just said he died in war. where did the manga say he got killed by a jonin level ninja. i like how you automatically like to assume hashirama got killed by fodder to make him look weak.
1st off you quoted the wrong post seconly I never gave a rank. If he was so strong how can he just die in war, Hiruzen was in two wars....
 

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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!


make him look weak?LOL


isn't this the man you say can not only solo the 5 kage

but Win against edo rinnegan/hashirama infused madara?

he must be a god?
yes, that's right.. a god among men..


yet he died in war? burrrr?

your god part 2 hiruzen cant even hold his own even slightly against kurama. we saw him about to be killed by a tbb. this god of shinobi who has the same nickname as the sage and supposedly hashiramas superior cant even hold his own against the beast hashirama handled who was also fighting with madara. also please dont say that its hashiramas ability bla bla bla. it doesnt suppress tailed beasts the moment it touches them.
 

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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

look at hashirama here and say his full power was shown against hiruzen
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Honestly, it depends on what you mean by who is better. If you're talking beating Jinchuuriki's and Bijuu, then Hashirama is better. But in a straight up nin-nin fight I do believe Hiruzen was in a different league.

As for the post ripping on Hiruzen for "almost dying to a TBB", that was Kishi's plot no jutsu at work. They weren't showcasing Hiruzen, they were giving Minato the spotlight. You know it and I know it.
 

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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

1st off you quoted the wrong post seconly I never gave a rank. If he was so strong how can he just die in war, Hiruzen was in two wars....
in the first war he just let the 2nd hokage die and in the 2nd war we never saw hiruzen fight. it seems that kishi forgets about this "god" and just keeps hyping up hashirama.
 

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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

your god part 2 hiruzen cant even hold his own even slightly against kurama. we saw him about to be killed by a tbb. this god of shinobi who has the same nickname as the sage and supposedly hashiramas superior cant even hold his own against the beast hashirama handled who was also fighting with madara. also please dont say that its hashiramas ability bla bla bla. it doesnt suppress tailed beasts the moment it touches them.
Stop using that crap as an add on Mito assisted Hashirama, end of that discussion

Also i like how you guys are using :flaw: to physically attack each other lmao this is fun
 

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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!


make him look weak?LOL


isn't this the man you say can not only solo the 5 kage

but Win against edo rinnegan/hashirama infused madara?

he must be a god?
yes, that's right.. a god among men..


yet he died in war? burrrr?

hahahahaha

Okay so Orochimaru walked away from the fight and Hiruzen died.. And you call that a win for Hiruzen? A tie for Hiruzen? No a loss.

Hash survived and defeated kakazu who had a hit on Hash.. Whoever killed him must have been far greater than hash, but that's okay if the bijuu's , Madara , were no match for hash, who is? Some third party that we'll never know of.

I never said Edo Madara would lose to Hash if you'd read, but the fAct that hash is a better match up then 5 f@&$ing kages for Madara, that shows how strong Hash is. Edo madara's op as ****k.

Think about this, it's the 9 fcuking tails buddy and Hash controlled that fool . Even if he can control bijuu's it wouldn't be a piece of cake especially for the 9 tails.. Smh :flaw:
Then he beat Madara at the same time , EMS Madara.. Able to create meteors, susanoo, koton expert, etc.
Hiruzen took away that mans arms, his jutsu, his power.. take it as a draw or take it as a win, but it D@mn sure isnt a lost..

and you did say madara said hashirama can beat him.. And i quote "Even when Madara has Mokoton and Rinnegan he states that Hashirama would be a better match up then the 5 kages & says that Hash is the only one who can defeat him , after seeing him play around with the kages shows what hash had to deal with to win.".. Those are your words.

And you need to pay attention to the timeline buddy, when madara fought Hashirama he didnt have the rinnegan so he couldnt create meteors.. And if karuma was busy fighting off mokoton i dont think it would be that diff to sneak up on him to touch him. Seeing how it takes a simple touch to supress the chakra..
 

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Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

Hiruzen is stronger, it has been stated that he was god of ninja, the strongest hokage ever. Also i with that kisame thing was true, they shoulda made a madara, zetsu, kisame trio that woulda been so cool.
 
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