The Rennigan DOESNT require Senju DNA!!!

[Futton]

where does it say nagato is an uzumaki

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There's your answer

 

[Sage6paths]

Can i be yet bold enough to say Edo Tensei Madara with his Rinnegan is not a complete eye?

I also believe Sasuke will attain the Rinnegan, but there is still 1 more lvl to go:

The combination of EMS and Rinnegan to form the "Eyes" i have on my avatar. I believe only with this final version of the eye, the moon eye plan can be carried out.

It make no sense for Sasuke to constantly switch between EMS and Rinnegan to cater to different needs in battle... he can just bind EMS and Rinnegan and spam it like the So6P.

 

[Sage6paths]

When Sasuke attain his Moon Eyes, he could well be able to use a never been seen before jutsu - Creation of All Things - to create a new 10 tails.

The 10 tails created by Sasuke will be evil while the current tailed beasts are "good" and they will finally combine together to form the original 10 tails.

Evil ten tails VS Good ten tails.

By then, killer-bee's eight tails might have volunteer to leave Bee's body in order to meld chakra with Naruto, along with the rest of the unaccounted tailed beasts.

 

[Barronator]

Can i be yet bold enough to say Edo Tensei Madara with his Rinnegan is not a complete eye?

I also believe Sasuke will attain the Rinnegan, but there is still 1 more lvl to go:

The combination of EMS and Rinnegan to form the "Eyes" i have on my avatar. I believe only with this final version of the eye, the moon eye plan can be carried out.

It make no sense for Sasuke to constantly switch between EMS and Rinnegan to cater to different needs in battle... he can just bind EMS and Rinnegan and spam it like the So6P.

Except you don't need to swap between EMS... Rinnegan is the ADVANCED version of EMS. If you go back and read the manga with Edo Madara he uses Susanoo (a Sharingan move) when he has Rinnegan active.

 

[Sage6paths]

Except you don't need to swap between EMS... Rinnegan is the ADVANCED version of EMS. If you go back and read the manga with Edo Madara he uses Susanoo (a Sharingan move) when he has Rinnegan active.

oh yah, u just reminded me of that.
One question though, why didnt Edo Tensei Madara use Rinnegan straight away?

 

[Barronator]

oh yah, u just reminded me of that.
One question though, why didnt Edo Tensei Madara use Rinnegan straight away?

Because he was going to get obliterated by the Rasen-Shuriken so he had to use Rinnegan to absorb it.

 

[Sage6paths]

Because he was going to get obliterated by the Rasen-Shuriken so he had to use Rinnegan to absorb it.

During Jiraiya's battle with the 6 Path of pain... they were caught in the Sage Frog Genjutsu... if the Rinnegan is the final version of EMS, how can they be caught in a genjutsu? I suppose Rinnegan can also see through Genjutsu? But it appeared cant.

 

[Higekage]

If they both recieved the same portion of his power I don't think the younger brother would be chosen as the heir... see where I'm going?

You missed a part. The younger brother was chosen for one reason - his ideology matched his father's.

 

[Barronator]

During Jiraiya's battle with the 6 Path of pain... they were caught in the Sage Frog Genjutsu... if the Rinnegan is the final version of EMS, how can they be caught in a genjutsu? I suppose Rinnegan can also see through Genjutsu? But it appeared cant.

Having Sharingan has never made you immune to being caught in a genjutsu. Take Kakashi for example, his Sharingan did nothing against Itachi and he got caught in Tsukuyomi. When Sasuke vs'd Itachi he was also caught in Tsukuyomi but he was able to break it. When Jirayia used that sage frog genjutsu it was only on one of the paths of pain not all 6 so that's why that genjutsu was successful.

Rinnegan has no extra advantage over genjutsu is all I'm saying.

 

[pema55]

frm hea i can conclude that 1 should have senju DNA and ucheas to gain rennigan....what about nagato?????
hes an uzumaki?????

 

[Unorthodox]

thats sharinagn final evolution

 

[senxy]

You missed a part. The younger brother was chosen for one reason - his ideology matched his father's.

I've explained everything...you obviously didn't reed my previous posts.>

The older brother...If he could have controlled his powers to the max...I mean ...you're not born with your own mind, you're, at least mentally, a "tabula rasa"...it's a sociological/social fact. So that means something must have triggered his mind to work in such a way, to have a different ideology than his brother and father. Most likely he just wasn't fond of the powers he had received and built a very different ideology...

And for a fact ...I think that the heirs were very often the older children...

 

[senxy]

frm hea i can conclude that 1 should have senju DNA and ucheas to gain rennigan....what about nagato?????
hes an uzumaki?????

he was given his Rinnegan...tobi gave it to him...or Madara.

 

[trollinclip]

As i have said senxy there has NEVER been any statement that the elder or the younger was given their power at full or incomplete!!! we don't know if they were. the youngers could of been incomplete aswell!!

 

[Prime Rib]

the rinnegan does not need senju dna. its a natural hypothesis that a uchiha eyes who masterd it beyond ems evolves. its natural

 

[senxy]

As i have said senxy there has NEVER been any statement that the elder or the younger was given their power at full or incomplete!!! we don't know if they were. the youngers could of been incomplete aswell!!

I agree with Prime Rib

trollinclip...then give me the explanation why was the older brother not chosen? why was his ideology so different from the ideology of his brother and father? ...I mean... we've seen these scenarios countless of times....how the elder brother didn't get what he deserved etc. etc.

and I've corrected myself in one of my previous posts... saying that maybe the younger one was more suited for the powers he was given...unlike his older brother.

As it is seen here:

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an aura like force surrounds the younger one...

I mean... why would Kishi draw the aura around the younger brother (guessing this is his life force showing) and not around the older one... chakra can also be visible, take Naruto for an example... his chakra levels were so high... you could actually see it...

There is one more thing that occurred to me right now. The elder brother believed that might was the key to peace... might...force, strength...physical power? Something that was given to his brother, not to him...

 

[Tokuban]

How long did you write that post????

 

[senxy]

How long did you write that post????

Me? Or Blaze his thread?

 

[GodOfTheUchiha]

Im new here so first off hi everyone.
ive read over all of this thread and the idea i formed was the same as god of uchiha's.
its possible for the uchiha at their best to acheive eyes like the first son's, but to achieve the eyes of the SO6P the 2 sons would have to be "combined", considering he split his power between the two and ended up with a incomplete rinnegan.
after saying that i believe madara had the incomplete version and fought hashiirama because he knew that he needed "the other half" of his ancestor to have the complete power and eyes like the SO6P originally had.
im no expert but this is my take on the issue feel free to point out flaws i welcome constructive criticism.

It's good to see that people are responding to what I posted. I'm pretty sure the assumption I made is correct, and what you said makes a lot of sense, keep up the good thinking

 

[2nd hokage]

great post well laid out and supported by FACTS good work