Naruto even without the kyubi would still be kage level
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Prince Charles
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LOL!
Naruto should of died plenty of times if not for the kyubi. It was because of the kyubi's chakra/healing abilitys that naruto progressed through out the series..
1. Multishadow clon= Kyubi's chakra (young naruto not shippuden)
2. Forest of death; if not for the kyubi they wouldnt had made it to the next round (and sasuke being on his team).
3. Kyubi was the reason he was able to summon gamabunta
4. kyubi was the reason he beat neji
5. kyubi was the reason he beat gaara
6. jman was the reason kabuto didnt kill naruto..
7. kyubi was the reason he was able to fight sasuke in the end of part 1
Oh, and kyubi was the reason he beat haku.lol
second part (shippuden)
1. kyubi was the reason he didnt die against oru (and oru was sick)
2. kyubi was the reason he was able to practice rasenshuriken
3. kyubi basically helped him do every that made him who he is today!
Also helped him get to the point where he could learn sage mode.
Plus the fact naruto isnt smart at all! No where near neji or sasuke or shino or plenty others. He has his lucky moments and info before hand.
With out the kyubi he would be chunin or low jonin (which i doubt!). Its because he is the main character that he became who he is.
But!... If minato were alive.. He would of been high joinin/kage level because of his dad's training along with Jman and others protecting him/helping him!
Naruto should of died plenty of times if not for the kyubi. It was because of the kyubi's chakra/healing abilitys that naruto progressed through out the series..
1. Multishadow clon= Kyubi's chakra (young naruto not shippuden)
2. Forest of death; if not for the kyubi they wouldnt had made it to the next round (and sasuke being on his team).
3. Kyubi was the reason he was able to summon gamabunta
4. kyubi was the reason he beat neji
5. kyubi was the reason he beat gaara
6. jman was the reason kabuto didnt kill naruto..
7. kyubi was the reason he was able to fight sasuke in the end of part 1
Oh, and kyubi was the reason he beat haku.lol
second part (shippuden)
1. kyubi was the reason he didnt die against oru (and oru was sick)
2. kyubi was the reason he was able to practice rasenshuriken
3. kyubi basically helped him do every that made him who he is today!
Also helped him get to the point where he could learn sage mode.
Plus the fact naruto isnt smart at all! No where near neji or sasuke or shino or plenty others. He has his lucky moments and info before hand.
With out the kyubi he would be chunin or low jonin (which i doubt!). Its because he is the main character that he became who he is.
But!... If minato were alive.. He would of been high joinin/kage level because of his dad's training along with Jman and others protecting him/helping him!
tracytracy22
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Hi. Im not so sure if naruto would be kage level without the kyuubi. I'm sure he'd still be powerful but if he loses the kyuubi, its means:
- No more kyuubi chakra mode
- Loses genjutsu immunity
- Wont have the same, huge stamina. He is an uzumaki but this is the part which confuses me. Uzumaki's posses incredible longevity and life force but does this mean stamina??? If it doesn't mean stamina, then he might lose sage mode, because for sage mode, you need huge chakra reserves. If naruto were to lose the kyuubi, would he still have a large chakra reserve? No one knows the answer.
- A key part of naruto's combat style is the use of shadow clones. Without the huge stamina, he might not be able to use the shadow clone technique like the way he does now (this is in terms of quantity).
- He would lose his abilty to heal quickly.
I'm not a hater but I just dont see how naruto is a kage level shinobi without the kyuubi. Mabe in sage mode he is, but would he be able to use/learn sage mode without the extra stamina provided by the kyuubi? In that case, mabe mid-high jounin level? I might be underestimating him.
UzumakiXNaruto
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Sorry to say but hell yea Base naruto is kage level! :flaw:.................the only thing garaa does is use sand and has his mother protecting him but hes still cool! but my point is naruto has his uzumaki strng charka &strong life force!:shrug:
and garaa just need to be hit from one resengen and hes done!is what i think
Naruto9001
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Chunin level? LOL no, Can a chunin level ninja do sage mode? Can a chunin level ninja learn the Rassenshuriken? Can a chunin level surpass Kakashi who is kage level? I'll just let you think about all that.
Naruto9001
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Naruto9001
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1. It could have been because his a Uzumaki Uzumaki have much much much greater chakra than regular ninjas.
2. What did the kyubi do to get them past the next round?
3. I dont remember it ever being said that he needs kyubi chakra to do the summoning jutsu scans please?
4. You have a point.
5. Your right but he was fighting Garra on his own and with Gamabuta most of the fight.
6. What? Jiraya didn't do nothing.
7. That was all the way in part 1 so all those times you are talking about part 1 are irrelevant.
shippuden
1. That was a while ago.
2. It could have also been because of his Uzumaki chakra.
3. Wrong.
No his used his brain in many fights.
Chunin level is way too low.
Naruto9001
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Kushina was able to live after having a tailed beast ripped out of her so Uzumakis most have high stamina he would still have sage mode.
In his base form it was questionable to if he surpassed Kakashi or not so that already says in base his probadly high jounin to low kage level and in sage mode his probadly mid kage level.
Naruto9001
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No your stubornness why dont you try to make a good argument if you disagree let me know why instead of just calling me stubborn.
Naruto9001
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i agreed kyuby have saved naruto's ass as many stars that are in the sky but also it is the reason why naruto does not really shinni by himself, except for the Sennin Mode, thats the real naruto and who he does be.
Kyuby gave naruto a lot more chakra
Healed his wounds even againts the side effects of the Rasen Shuriken.
Saved him from death againts sasuke, sasuke, broke naruto's neck
gave him freaky speed. and much more.
naruto is so damn dependant of the kyuby, naruto would jounin level shinnobi and with the sage mode he would be low kage.
Kyuby gave naruto a lot more chakra
Healed his wounds even againts the side effects of the Rasen Shuriken.
Saved him from death againts sasuke, sasuke, broke naruto's neck
gave him freaky speed. and much more.
naruto is so damn dependant of the kyuby, naruto would jounin level shinnobi and with the sage mode he would be low kage.
Naruto9001
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Flame Alchemist
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can't possibly say.
because if not for kyuubi minato and kushina might be alive. those two training naruto from the early ages would have a huge impact but if that was the case he wouldn't have the pain that droves him right now. and if not kyuubi there's a chance that he couldn't get SM too. because fukasaku said that SM requires huge chakra reserves.
and some more points. it took naruto more than 3 days. the final step took more than a week.
however the current naruto without using the kyuubi's power or SM would be a low-level kage.
because if not for kyuubi minato and kushina might be alive. those two training naruto from the early ages would have a huge impact but if that was the case he wouldn't have the pain that droves him right now. and if not kyuubi there's a chance that he couldn't get SM too. because fukasaku said that SM requires huge chakra reserves.
and some more points. it took naruto more than 3 days. the final step took more than a week.
however the current naruto without using the kyuubi's power or SM would be a low-level kage.