Naruto even without the kyubi would still be kage level

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100 x more is a little exagerated .
He would lose a huge piece of is chakra without the nine tails but he would be better at controlling it.

Edit : sry for double post

Maybe a bit exagarted but naruto's chakra probadly comes from him being a uzumaki him having the kyubi just makes his chakra endless.
 

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Naruto has a huge chakra reserve by himself genetically.
 

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Make your assumptions with naruto vs the nine tails that was naruto with out ninetails
 

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O yeah check out the intellegence on this hokage level shinobi. :rolleyes:
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O yeah check out the intellegence on this hokage level shinobi. :rolleyes:
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The prime image used to build the misconception that Naruto is an idiot >:[
 

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Without kurama he'll have perfect SM and fuse with the 2 toads..so yes he is definitely at least mid kage level without kurama..people sayin he would be jonin level need a brain :flaw:
 

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Naruto's prob a high jounin level without the nine-tails, or possibly kage level with his sage mode.
 

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The prime image used to build the misconception that Naruto is an idiot >:[

It's not much of a misconception if it's true. :shrug: Naruto isn't an idiot but to say his intelligence is on par of a hokage is just. :sy: Or a jounin for that matter U_U
 

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Minato created the technique. Creating a technique and learning a pre-existing technique are obviously two completely different things, your comparison is invalid.

Onoki was exhausted and severely injured when he used his technique (remember, he'd stopped the giant meteorite from crashing down and killing them all earlier?), if anything that just shows how impressive Onoki is as a Kage, not how Naruto is on Kage level. Secondly, you have no idea how much chakra Naruto took from Kurama. That is another one of your baseless assumptions.

So he still had to do all thee stuff Minato had to do to make the rassengan Minato just had to do it on his own but naruto making it in 3 days even with a shadow clone is very impressive.

The Base Naruto Clone was also exhausted and injured if he was at full health he could have just went to KM and rassenshuriken and destroy the meteors Oonoki could only stop one. It was probadly a small amount my assuptions are pretty accurate dont ignore them just to be a hater.
 

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After re-watching naruto vs kurama I say high-kage level :scorps: With his summonings, sage mode, rasengan, shadow clones and will to never give up and protect the people close to him.
 

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O yeah check out the intellegence on this hokage level shinobi. :rolleyes:
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How does that have anything to do with naruto's power? True in intelligence his probadly chunin or jounin level but in power his kage level.
 

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How does that have anything to do with naruto's power? True in intelligence his probadly chunin or jounin level but in power his kage level.

Sir Intelligence is power. :scorps:

Without it Naruto is just Jounin level in sage mode IMO
 

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Sir Intelligence is power. :scorps:

Without it Naruto is just Jounin level in sage mode IMO

No intelligence is just part of power intelligence is just a area naruto is weak at but overall naruto is kage level.
 

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Naruto is actually pretty smart, he even seemed to be having a cheerful 1-sided conversation with Nagato before he realized that he was possessed. He lacks book smarts but he can be an expert on analysis and trickery.
 

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He owned the 3rd Raikage with sage mode so definitley although he had information but still yeah i agree
 

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I never said it wasn't impressive, I never said he didn't surpass Minato in that area. But the way you're downplaying Minato's intelligence is idiotic.

LOL, no, sorry. I doubt one Rasenshuriken is big enough to destroy two meteors. Did you even look at their sizes?

Your assumptions aren't accurate at all because you still haven't given me a reason as to why you think it would be a small amount. If anything, you contradicted yourself. You stated the clone was exhausted and injured, which means he would've needed quite a lot of Kurama's chakra, not just a tiny bit.

Base Naruto just isn't Kage level. SM Naruto is. Get over it.

How am i downplaying Minato's intelligence?

I know but Naruto can just spam Rassenshuriken and yes i did.

It was probadly a bit. How did i contradict myself? The nine tails has gigantic chakra millions of times more than a regular ninja it would only take a little bit of chakra for Naruto to get enough.

He is.
 

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Naruto is actually pretty smart, he even seemed to be having a cheerful 1-sided conversation with Nagato before he realized that he was possessed. He lacks book smarts but he can be an expert on analysis and trickery.

I know im tired of all these Naruto haters saying stuff like "Naruto is a idiot" Naruto's not a idiot true his used his brain in many battles.
 

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How is that NOT downplaying his intelligence? Granted, Minato gets overrated A LOT by fanboys, but this is just blatantly underrating him :|

He could've spammed Rasenshuriken, only with the help of Kurama.

I already explained how you contradicted yourself. If you're that bad at reading that you can't even understand my post then I'm wasting my time here.

You said intelligence he needs alot more than intelligence to learn a tech like the Rasenshuriken if it took him 3 years to learn it by himself with a shadow clone he would probadly learn it much faster but 3 days that's crazy! In the rassenshuriken is even harder to learn so it would take much longer that's not downplaying him.

He has a enormous chakra suply so he could probadly go in SM sorry if i contradicted myself with the KM thing but with SM he can still spam it.

I read well and i understand and i admit i did contradict myself a little in my last post.
 
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