Sasori is immune to Genjutsu (general speaking)

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I still see this debated, even though Kishi’s genjutsu laws are pretty straightforward, the concept really can’t be that hard to grasp.

“the effects of genjutsu are illusory; instead of attacking the victim's body, like taijutsu or ninjutsu, genjutsu techniques manipulate the flow of chakra in the victim's brain, thus causing a disruption in their senses.”


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Not that hard, eh? Genjutsu is chakra inserted into the brain, to manipulate the flow of chakra into the brain, thus causing disruption into the five senses, which Genjutsu tampers with.

Now, let’s look at Sasori:

Sasori is very interesting because he might be the only one who is/was truly immune to genjutsu. He lacks a brain therefore his senses can’t be tampered with. It would literally have no effect on him because you can’t manipulate the flow of chakra in his brain without reaching his nonexistent brain.
Instead, he has a heart. With that heart, he is able to function like a regular human being, which he successfully managed to do by removing internal structures.

These are facts since it was not only stated by the man himself but also the databook:

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[The Living Core]
Sasori's person embodies the idea of everlastingness and indestructibility. But to generate chakra, a live bodily portion is indispensable. That very part of Sasori is now his Core, and his one and only weakness. In the middle of his fight against Chiyo, he hesitated, for a split second, to attack her. His parents. They pierced through his Core, in something resembling an embrace. Heart and body alike, Sasori had been unable to turn completely into a puppet.


In essence, Sasori is generally safe from genjutsu altogether. Obviously, there are rare exceptions like Izanami and Izanagi. One bypasses all the senses entirely while the other is cast on oneself.
 

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yeah care argue with you there
he is still dead though
 

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well he might have been but he is dead so it doesnt really matter also he got owned by an old lady and a cry baby
 

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Debatable.

Despite having no brain, he has senses. He can see without having real eyes, hear without having real ears, speak without any kind of vocal cords and think without having a brain. Sasori is a contradiction in terms.

But after all, Genjutsu manipulates the enemy's Chakra. His core appears to contain his Chakra, his senses, his mind, in short: his humanity. His senses and his mind are inside that container, and it's filled with Chakra - therefore I don't see any reason why Genjutsu shouldn't work. Normal rules don't always apply to Naruto.
 
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well he might have been but he is dead so it doesnt really matter also he got owned by an old lady and a cry baby

What is your point? Both hashirama and minato are dead, yet their abilities are still discussed.

Also, Sasori chose to die against the perfect opponents.
 

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What is your point? Both hashirama and minato are dead, yet their abilities are still discussed.

Also, Sasori chose to die against the perfect opponents.

my point is he is dead i thought i made that clear and he can be in genjutsu like anyone else
 

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If you have a MIND... u are capable of falling under genjutsu.
 

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Debatable.

Despite having no brain, he has senses. He can see without having real eyes, hear without having real ears, speak without any kind of vocal cords and think without having a brain. Sasori is a contradiction in terms.

But after all, Genjutsu manipulates the enemy's Chakra. His core appears to contain his Chakra, his senses, his mind, in short: his humanity. His senses and his mind are inside that container, and it's filled with Chakra - therefore I don't see any reason why Genjutsu shouldn't work. Normal rules don't always apply to Naruto.

Not really.As you said, this is fiction and Sasori apparently sees,feels,etc.with his heart.

Genjutsu is stated to affect the brain, Sasori has no brain. Thus he is unable to be put under Genjutsu. Both the actual manga and databook support this.
 

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Debatable.

Despite having no brain, he has senses. He can see without having real eyes, hear without having real ears, speak without any kind of vocal cords and think without having a brain. Sasori is a contradiction in terms.

But after all, Genjutsu manipulates the enemy's Chakra. His core appears to contain his Chakra, his senses, his mind, in short: his humanity. His senses and his mind are inside that container, and it's filled with Chakra - therefore I don't see any reason why Genjutsu shouldn't work. Normal rules don't always apply to Naruto.

if theres no nervous system to insert your chakra into and distort their senses how will you perform genjutsu
 

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evidence lol i could say the same to you it is all speculation you think he cant be i say he can be there is no evidence to support either claim but either way i dont really care if he can or not so .......... have a good day
 

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Not really.As you said, this is fiction and Sasori apparently sees,feels,etc.with his heart.

Genjutsu is stated to affect the brain, Sasori has no brain. Thus he is unable to be put under Genjutsu. Both the actual manga and databook support this.
I'm well aware of the latest databook.

As I said, Sasori can see, hear, feel and think. That wouldn't be possible with nothing but a heart. That container is more than just a heart. It contains his mind and takes over the brain's functions.

Genjutsu manipulates the Chakra inside the users brain. Considering that his organic container compensates his brain and contains Chakra, Genjutsu will affect it instead of the brain.
 

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evidence lol i could say the same to you it is all speculation you think he cant be i say he can be there is no evidence to support either claim but either way i dont really care if he can or not so .......... have a good day


Thx for rep. Have good day yourself, but dare I say that I have provided more than you.

I'm well aware of the latest databook.

As I said, Sasori can see, hear, feel and think. That wouldn't be possible with nothing but a heart. That container is more than just a heart. It contains his mind and takes over the brain's functions.

Genjutsu manipulates the Chakra inside the users brain. Considering that his organic container compensates his brain and contains Chakra, Genjutsu will affect it instead of the brain.

It is possible, in a manga. Real world logic does not apply and it specifically says that a brain is required for genjutsu to work. You can’t manipulate the flow of chakra in the brain,if there is no brain manipulate.Nothing suggests that his heart takes over the brain's functions, at least literally ( no cranial nerves). Kishi would have stated that if that was the case, and i see no reason why he wouldn't.
 

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i think it needs to be stated again that genjutsu is when you send chakra into your opponents physical nervous system to manipulate their chakra and distort their senses, thus creating illusions around them. now that said sasori does have a minimum of sight and hearing even though he lacks a nervous system in his puppet body, he still has a capacity to take in information around him and process that, essentially with that living core that contains his chakra/consciousness acting like a brain as floriglori said. whats debatable is how sasori interprets information and if that information can be disrupted by inserting chakra into that core, if at all possible, in any case it would be a different level of genjutsu and hard to achieve i believe
 

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I find it hard to believe that despite he has no brain, he can still think abt wat he is saying nd analyze his oppenents moves as well as counter them?
 

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Not really.As you said, this is fiction and Sasori apparently sees,feels,etc.with his heart.

Genjutsu is stated to affect the brain, Sasori has no brain. Thus he is unable to be put under Genjutsu. Both the actual manga and databook support this.

I think genjutsu can work for the share fact he has both emotions & can manipulate chakra

As long as there is a source that distributes chakra & controls its use it can be disrupted or placed under genjutsu

Tho sasori is a genius and overall talented ninja I think only high level genjutsu can affect him
 
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