Edo Minato vs Tobi Rematch

[iknowwhotobiis]

he will not get caught wanna know why?

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he teleports without throwing his kunai. using the radius


radius.....

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you have problems that small radius will be sucked up as well, look how big is chibaku tensei. Plus FTG lvl 3 does not exist, show me where it says in the manga or databook

 

[Badass09]

Yes tobi not nagato sorry. If he used chibaku tensei, there would be no safe place to put a mark, the entire land would he sucked in. Tobi has much more chakra then nagato cuz of the bijuus so technically he could chibaku tensei something much larger.

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see the size?! all his kunais and the land around minato would be sucked in. Minato has no jutsu to destroy or he cannot use S/T to teleport chibaku tensei away. His only option is to run away very far by using a seal he prepared before the fight which would be conceding thus losing vs tobi. Tobi can afford to do this beacuse he can simply go intangible so he would not die from the chibaku itself.

And in the shinra tensei case, tobi would grab all the kunais to bait minato once he teleported to finish tobi. He could just izanagi to grab minato and consume his soul gg wp. Minato has no way to defeat tobi sorry.

If Tobi uses Chibaku tensei, then he will suck his bijuus as well and I think he doesnt want to do that, and we don't know if he is even able to use chibaku tensei. Or perhaps he can do greater things than Nagato could.
If Kishi don't want Minato to die/be defeated he could make Minato to place his marks in a safe place, I mean if Chibaku's range is for about 30 m then Minato could of put his marks where Chibaku's range doesn't affect but it would be too detailed and again would be one of those times where ppl say "Uh, such a smart guy".
I think he knows what Tobi can do using rinnengan, I mean he knows what are the powers of rinnengan so he wouldnt just lift up his head and run to beat Tobi.

Minato doesnt only have his kunais marked, in a fight he marks stuffs as well.

If Tobi takes his kunais then he could teleport to another side where he got his marks.

 

[BloodSeed]

you have problems that small radius will be sucked up as well, look how big is chibaku tensei. Plus FTG lvl 3 does not exist, show me where it says in the manga or databook

yes that was a small radius but it can loop teleport again and again away the chibaku tensie. look at that image when he teleport upward. where is the kunai? at his hand teleport upward again where is the kunai? at his hand teleport again...:shrug:

 

[iknowwhotobiis]

If Tobi uses Chibaku tensei, then he will suck his bijuus as well and I think he doesnt want to do that, and we don't know if he is even able to use chibaku tensei. Or perhaps he can do greater things than Nagato could.
If Kishi don't want Minato to die/be defeated he could make Minato to place his marks in a safe place, I mean if Chibaku's range is for about 30 m then Minato could of put his marks where Chibaku's range doesn't affect but it would be too detailed and again would be one of those times where ppl say "Uh, such a smart guy".
I think he knows what Tobi can do using rinnengan, I mean he knows what are the powers of rinnengan so he wouldnt just lift up his head and run to beat Tobi.

Minato doesnt only have his kunais marked, in a fight he marks stuffs as well.

If Tobi takes his kunais then he could teleport to another side where he got his marks.

no chibaku tensei radius is larger. So you are assuming minato has already prepared the battlefield (putting marks before tobi arrived). That is unfair, so it is not valid. The bijuus are edos they would just respawn after.

If he placed a mark in a safe place before going into the fight (that is his only way to escape), he would lose by default because in it would have to be far away.

Minato has no knowledge of rinnengan. So all of your points are mute. please try again sorry

yes that was a small radius but it can loop teleport again and again away the chibaku tensie. look at that image when he teleport upward. where is the kunai? at his hand teleport upward again where is the kunai? at his hand teleport again...:shrug:

trololol

i know what you are saying but that would not happen... or you dont even know if he can do ftg consecutively. Show me a page where he uses FTG 3 or 4 times in a row...

 

[BloodSeed]

no chibaku tensei radius is larger. So you are assuming minato has already prepared the battlefield (putting marks before tobi arrived). That is unfair, so it is not valid. The bijuus are edos they would just respawn after.

If he placed a mark in a safe place before going into the fight (that is his only way to escape), he would lose by default because in it would have to be far away.

Minato has no knowledge of rinnengan. So all of your points are mute. please try again sorry



trololol

i know what you are saying but that would not happen... or you dont even know if he can do ftg consecutively. Show me a page where he uses FTG 3 or 4 times in a row...

how would he kill 50 ninjas in a blink of an eye? if he just do 2 ftg?

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[Rapid]

Tobi wins he puts minato into a genjutsu and its all over

 

[BloodSeed]

Tobi wins he puts minato into a genjutsu and its all over

lol minato had the coat he wont be defeated

 

[Badass09]

no chibaku tensei radius is larger. So you are assuming minato has already prepared the battlefield (putting marks before tobi arrived). That is unfair, so it is not valid. The bijuus are edos they would just respawn after.

If he placed a mark in a safe place before going into the fight (that is his only way to escape), he would lose by default because in it would have to be far away.

Minato has no knowledge of rinnengan. So all of your points are mute. please try again sorry

Bijuus, Edo? just like Minato...?
Chibaku tensei only would take him as a prisoner and he can control his marks when placed. So he could be inside of chibaku tensei and then manage his marks to get in the outside of Chibaku tensei, it has lot of cracks so it shouldnt be impossible.
Im not sure if his marks moves only in a body of a person and if he only can place his marks in a person besides his kunais but sure he'd find a way out.
Bijuus aren't Edo, only Jinchurrikis are edos. Bijuu's didnt die to come into edo form.

 

[iknowwhotobiis]

Bijuus, Edo? just like Minato...?
Chibaku tensei only would take him as a prisoner and he can control his marks when placed. So he could be inside of chibaku tensei and then manage his marks to get in the outside of Chibaku tensei, it has lot of cracks so it shouldnt be impossible.
Im not sure if his marks moves only in a body of a person and if he only can place his marks in a person besides his kunais but sure he'd find a way out.
Bijuus aren't Edo, only Jinchurrikis are edos. Bijuu's didnt die to come into edo form.

so thats why tobi would use chibaku tensei before the jins power up to bijuus.

The bold part is an assumption. He would not be able to escape with the marks ebacuse of the cracks. He would be able to teleport inside the chibaku tensei only to find himself stuck. While tobi can just go inside because he is intangible wait for minato get stuck somewhere and rip his soul while he regenerates (since it takes some time). So tobi wins, your argument that somehow he would find a way out is not valid. or i could just say somehow tobi would rip his soul out see how easy it is?

 

[ajpn920]

you know it takes time to teleport one TBB. Now take your time to imagine how much longer it would take to teleport 6 TBBS while Tobi is trying to rip your soul apart?! I am not going to even mention that minato does not have the chakra capacity to do such feat.

And tobi can just use shinra tensei or chibaku tensei (if you prefer) to get all of minato kunais... so he cannot use FTG.

Hey..what are you talking about? Tobi can't take Minato's soul..Why? Because that technique is not instantaneous. No trap is effective against Minato. He can FTG away from it. Do you think that the barrier is only good at the front where there is an attack? You are assuming that Tobi can sneak attack him which is very unlikely because he can't get past the barrier. It will send him to another location. He can get back right away but it will take time and could lose his control on the bijuus..shinra tensei won't work against space time barrier.

The odds are against Tobi because he will run out of chakra. No matter how many techs he have, the problem is if his chakra can perform all those techs..jutsus requires chakra and Tobi does not have infinite chakra..I forgot, Minato can redirect the attack back to the bijuus or Tobi...try to consider that...nice try...

 

[Badass09]

so thats why tobi would use chibaku tensei before the jins power up to bijuus.

The bold part is an assumption. He would not be able to escape with the marks ebacuse of the cracks. He would be able to teleport inside the chibaku tensei only to find himself stuck. While tobi can just go inside because he is intangible wait for minato get stuck somewhere and rip his soul while he regenerates (since it takes some time). So tobi wins, your argument that somehow he would find a way out is not valid. or i could just say somehow tobi would rip his soul out see how easy it is?

I knew you'd state something about that (he'd find a way out), I know Tobi is powerful than Minato and everyone knows that, but Minato has great abilities and he'd be the cleaver one in that battle. If Tobi wins that is gonna be a victory with insane dif. He had to keep Minato to stay still while he rips his soul or seals him. As far as we are I've seen that Chibaku would be of great help to keep Minato to stay still, but he wouldnt just be taken by that. That'd be so lame if Minato "the flash" can't avoid being sucked by Chibaku.
And I think jins aren't exactly like edos bcuz they got bijuu inside, that means if they get dumped then bijuu might die. Having bijuu in a dead body is quite the same as killing a bijuu. And if bijuu dies it would take 4 or 5 years for it to come back alive.

 

[iknowwhotobiis]

Hey..what are you talking about? Tobi can't take Minato's soul..Why? Because that technique is not instantaneous. No trap is effective against Minato. He can FTG away from it. Do you think that the barrier is only good at the front where there is an attack? You are assuming that Tobi can sneak attack him which is very unlikely because he can't get past the barrier. It will send him to another location. He can get back right away but it will take time and could lose his control on the bijuus..shinra tensei won't work against space time barrier.

The odds are against Tobi because he will run out of chakra. No matter how many techs he have, the problem is if his chakra can perform all those techs..jutsus requires chakra and Tobi does not have infinite chakra..I forgot, Minato can redirect the attack back to the bijuus or Tobi...try to consider that...nice try...

read my previous post. You know when u get touched by soul removal you lose your consciousness??

I knew you'd state something about that (he'd find a way out), I know Tobi is powerful than Minato and everyone knows that, but Minato has great abilities and he'd be the cleaver one in that battle. If Tobi wins that is gonna be a victory with insane dif. He had to keep Minato to stay still while he rips his soul or seals him. As far as we are I've seen that Chibaku would be of great help to keep Minato to stay still, but he wouldnt just be taken by that. That'd be so lame if Minato "the flash" can't avoid being sucked by Chibaku.
And I think jins aren't exactly like edos bcuz they got bijuu inside, that means if they get dumped then bijuu might die. Having bijuu in a dead body is quite the same as killing a bijuu. And if bijuu dies it would take 4 or 5 years for it to come back alive.

so you admit minato would lose but you are saying tobi wouldnt use because his bijuus would die?1 The OP has not place any restriction that tobi could not sacrifice his pets. And if chibaku tensei keeps minato still for even 1 sec soul removal would win because once you get touched you lose your consciousness. It is instant. So tobi wins i am sorry. Be happy minato is one of the few who can even put a fight 1v1

 

[ajpn920]

read my previous post. You know when u get touched by soul removal you lose your consciousness??



so you admit minato would lose but you are saying tobi wouldnt use because his bijuus would die?1 The OP has not place any restriction that tobi could not sacrifice his pets. And if chibaku tensei keeps minato still for even 1 sec soul removal would win because once you get touched you lose your consciousness. It is instant. So tobi wins i am sorry. Be happy minato is one of the few who can even put a fight 1v1

at the bolded part? really? think twice before I'll post a scan proving you wrong..check your facts first....:sy:

 

[iknowwhotobiis]

at the bolded part? really? think twice before I'll post a scan proving you wrong..check your facts first....:sy:

waiting for the scan, btw i was referring to soul removal after reading someone´s mind. not the soul removal that takes years to do.

take a look at that shinobi face

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how does he look?! normal?! I dont think so

 

[ajpn920]

waiting for the scan, btw i was referring to soul removal after reading someone´s mind. not the soul removal that takes years to do.

ha? soul removal after reading someone's mind? is their another kind of the rinnegans ability to remove souls?:sy: if there is do you think reading someones mind wont take time?...as i've said, i'll give you a chance to straighten your facts..

 

[iknowwhotobiis]

ha? soul removal after reading someone's mind? is their another kind of the rinnegans ability to remove souls?:sy: if there is do you think reading someones mind wont take time?...as i've said, i'll give you a chance to straighten your facts..

yup if you read someone´s mind with the human path instead of just taking someone soul they die after. And from the moment you touch them they lose consciousness. So yeah, tobi has stated (you die after reading someone mind) and as you can see in this link

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you lose your consciousness while the rinn user is reading your mind. Soo yeah it is instant K.O. I called it soul removal because the mind reading ability has not been named yet.

 

[Badass09]

so you admit minato would lose but you are saying tobi wouldnt use because his bijuus would die?1 The OP has not place any restriction that tobi could not sacrifice his pets. And if chibaku tensei keeps minato still for even 1 sec soul removal would win because once you get touched you lose your consciousness. It is instant. So tobi wins i am sorry. Be happy minato is one of the few who can even put a fight 1v1

Im not saying Minato would lose. No way, :/
He has got intelligence in his favor (and believe me, it alone can bring chaos to the opponent).
He can flash around, Im sure he knows every single thing about this jutsu and so there shall be an other way for him to use his technics.
He has got a troublesome barrier...

I'd say Tobi would win ONLY if he was clever than Minato, sure Tobi has chances to win so has Minato and since Minato is the intelligent one then he'd use his chance wisely than Tobi would use his.

 

[Badass09]

yup if you read someone´s mind with the human path instead of just taking someone soul they die after. And from the moment you touch them they lose consciousness. So yeah, tobi has stated (you die after reading someone mind) and as you can see in this link

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you lose your consciousness while the rinn user is reading your mind. Soo yeah it is instant K.O. I called it soul removal because the mind reading ability has not been named yet.

Kisame could stop the reading mind process...

 

[BloodSeed]

yup if you read someone´s mind with the human path instead of just taking someone soul they die after. And from the moment you touch them they lose consciousness. So yeah, tobi has stated (you die after reading someone mind) and as you can see in this link

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you lose your consciousness while the rinn user is reading your mind. Soo yeah it is instant K.O. I called it soul removal because the mind reading ability has not been named yet.

where did tobi stated that?

 

[ajpn920]

yup if you read someone´s mind with the human path instead of just taking someone soul they die after. And from the moment you touch them they lose consciousness. So yeah, tobi has stated (you die after reading someone mind) and as you can see in this link

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you lose your consciousness while the rinn user is reading your mind. Soo yeah it is instant K.O. I called it soul removal because the mind reading ability has not been named yet.

look dude..do you know who did that? that was human path if i'm not mistaken and that ability is soul removal. that is only one ability..nagato was able to use that against naruto right? what happened then? by the way, check my thread before:

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