Edo Minato vs Tobi Rematch

[Bogard]

All tobi has to do is wait underground where minato can't reach until the tailed beasts destroy him. After that, just suck his edo body to another dimension.

Really?

Tale beast or not it means nothing against Minato who could even take advantage of this. Why i tell that? Cause TBB are so huge that it will be easy for Minato to mark them. And if he marks them it will be easier for Minato to beat them. Cuz besides the fact he could teleport to them and kill or seal them, he could also teleport all their attacks. For example, if they use TBB, Minato could teleport that to themselves(cuz they've got the markings), and they will probably die cuz of their own attacks. If Tobi is on the way, he could die also. And the same with Gedo Mazo. Like i've said it's so huge that it will be easy for Minato to put his seals on it, and because Tobi is always near his Gedo Mazo at this current time, Minato could somehow take advantage of this to teleport direct behind him and kill Tobi without he even knows.

 

[Badass09]

All tobi has to do is wait underground where minato can't reach until the tailed beasts destroy him. After that, just suck his edo body to another dimension.

Minato can sense things just by touching the ground.
And if Tobi wouldn't be around it would be just Minato against bijuus and that would make things easier for Minato.

 

[Piratefish]

The only way to stop Minato is to seal him. Even a TBB would only make him take a short break before reforming.

So, how easy would it be to seal a seal-master with infinite chakra, incomparable speed and instant teleportation?

My vote is for Minato. Edo Minato is just... scary.

 

[BloodSeed]

look at this he throws a kunai but he gains against the kunai he is faster than what he throws lol

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[minatoisagod]

Since he can't do that then we all agree Tobi loses.

yup we do lol we should have said he loses again

 

[Lt Iceman]

Tobi wins this hands down,literally.

His Biju would be more than overkill against Minato,while he just chills while intangible and occasionally attempts to soul rip Minato when he deems fit

Any poll involving Minato is void

He wins no matter how or who he faces,it's just that his fans are severely caught up in a perpetual state of dementia and can't properly use their brain and any sort of logic,not a single shred

And reviewing the answers in this thread there's no single argument(I mean a post that factors in both parties abilities and not only Minato's) that depicts in a clear and logical/plausible way Minato's victory

I always see the typical Minato fan argument Tobi can't hit Minato(ignoring the bullcrap) let's reverse it for once shall we?

Now what can Minato do against an intangible motherfu*ker that can be literally invincible for 10 minutes with Izanagi.Then add to that he has something like 6 chakra powerhouses as bodyguards?

How exactly does he hurt Tobi folks? With a rasengan? With a kunai? With some frogs? And Tobi now possess knowkledge on Minato so he would not take him lightly and would constantly stay intangible to avoid any problems

Get fu*king real kids,Minato is outclassed completely,Tobi is in a higher tier among folks like Madara,Naruto,Kabuto,Itachi,Sasuke

But for the sake of argument I'll post a brief analysis on the fight

• Minato spreads his kunais all over the place
• Tobi sends in his Nidaime Rokudaime Pain
• Minato avoids the physical attacks of the beasts for sometime,until Tobi starts reading his movements
• Minato summons Gamabunta,the frog fights with on the bijus and gets demolished by a biju dama
• Tobi is chilling,as Minato is already having his hands full with the beasts,while he waits for the best moment to come in a soul rip,exactly as he attempted to do on Naruto(and we know if it wasn't for the masters help Naruto would have gotten his soul yanked out)
• Tobi now orders some of the biju to go full beast mode and now things start going downhill drastically for Minato.Tobi with the knowledge he has on Minato's Jikkukan Kekkai(s/t barrier) would not let the biju use the chakra blast but instruct them to simply tear Minato apart with their inhuman strength and or casually chakra roar him into oblivion
• Tobi is still chilling.If he snaps and decides to go all out,he activates Izanagi anb goes kamikaze on Minato.Basically any mutual damage they get he wins it.And he can simply let the biju start nuking the landscape into armaggedon and attempoting to soul rip Minato at any given moment

So I've presented a quick argument,it would be appreciated for those saying "Minato wins" to to the same,or lese their posts just have no purpose

Oh and while I'm at it,let me address some common bullcrap I see in Minato's threads

Why is it that Minato is the only one who can run away from the battlefield and comeback peacefully and it doesn't count as forfeit by default?

Why is it that when another shinobi does that it doesn't count as legitimate tactic?

And how in the sweet heavens does Minato teleport if the biju destroy every single one of them with a mountain busting chakra blast?

And lol at the people who say Minato can outlast Tobi or even warp several biju dama's,as if the guy has Kisame chakra levels or Madaras

Did I forget to mention there's no chance in hell Minato is winning this

And this is more evidence as to why the MInato fandom is the absolute worse on the narutobase.It's like his fans lack the very thing their favorite character had,namely intelligence

Get real people and get off Minato's dakimakura,so you can read the manga the same way we other can and see things the way they're meant to be,and not the way you want them to be

And people have the guts to say the Itachi fanbase is the worse,when I as a member of it I can peacefully say Tobi curbstomps Itachi into an oblivion,y'know I read the manga,somethings are clear to understand

Tough it's sad I had to go to such lengths to explain why Minato loses in what is a one sided thread actually.Give the blonde some back up and he can have a chance;alone he doesn't

State your argument. No matter how strong you are, you can't keep up with a body that has been reformed with zetsu cells with a guy who's in his peak.

State your argument,no matter how fast you are,you can't harm a body made of jelly and can go intangible for sh*ts and giggles

It's easy right?

Its the Uchiha fanboys club, they're incredibly dumb. You'd be wasting your time trying to argue with them, the fact that after every major power up Naruto gets faster and faster(KM,BMetc) means that speed is a HUGE thing with kishi is lost on them.

Yeah that's why the super fast Naruto was getting literally owned by a cripple shinobi,am I right?

What was clear there was Nagato owning 2 shinboi who are light years faster than him,with eye hax and 0 speed.So the author ain't saying sh*t about speed

Speed is just another aspect of the shinboi combat,just like taijutsu,genjutsu and etc

It's just that speed is overrated that is the truth

There are tons of ways for a slower shinobi to keep up with a faster,just like Sasuke did on the Raikage,there are thing lise tricks,smoke bombs,clones,traps,genjutsu and many other to nullify a speed difference between 2 shinobi

God at times I swear some people can't properly use their brain cells

Minato would be everywhere, you can't just shoot corrosive liquid at a place and expect the downfall of minato. If you want the corrosive liquid to work against minato, you'd have to spread it all over the field to catch him. Sit down? Minato knows that Tobi is controlling them. He'd go straight for Tobi If Minato wants, he can just teleport every jin away into a distance where its out of reach from Tobi. He doesn't need to struggle, he'd just let the beast fight eachother by him being in the middle and these mindless beasts blast eachother into pieces.

You act like the biju are genin level.Gay,Kakashi and Naruto haven't got the opportunity to even get close to Tobi,so I'm to believe Minato would casually do that while avoiding biju damas,chakra roars,and an omnidirectional physical onslaught?

Minato after teleporting the fox and the biju dama,noted to have a suffered a huge chakra loss.Now warping all of them would mean he dies by chakra exhaustion.Plain and simple(this of course giving you the benefit of doubt that he actually can do it while avoiding the ever watching Tobi that can appear at any time or the relentless barrage from the beasts)

The bijus aren't mindless for the record,and Tobi is controlling them so they aren't mindless,they reflect Tobi's will and intentions because y'know he is effing controlling them

I guess people here think that Minato would beat Bee+Naruto+Kakashi+Gai?

Yeah sadly they do,and they're not trolling,they actually believe it

Tale beast or not it means nothing against Minato who could even take advantage of this. Why i tell that? Cause TBB are so huge that it will be easy for Minato to mark them. And if he marks them it will be easier for Minato to beat them. Cuz besides the fact he could teleport to them and kill or seal them, he could also teleport all their attacks. For example, if they use TBB, Minato could teleport that to themselves(cuz they've got the markings), and they will probably die cuz of their own attacks. If Tobi is on the way, he could die also. And the same with Gedo Mazo. Like i've said it's so huge that it will be easy for Minato to put his seals on it, and because Tobi is always near his Gedo Mazo at this current time, Minato could somehow take advantage of this to teleport direct behind him and kill Tobi without he even knows.

God the Minato wank/co*k riding is very strong with you son

But for the love of heavens explain to me how does Minato kill a biju with a rasengan and a kunai or how does he seal them if he couldn't even fully seal the fox,,how does he accomplish that with a superior numbers of biju?

Not even a facepalm can express how much fail there is in this post

No it is not.

Just explain to me how Tobi can touch Minato.

Explain to me how does Minato hurt(or remotelt threaten) Tobi,with a lol rasengan and a kunai

Y'know it works both ways

If Tobi uses Izanagi for shits and giggles he simply tears the blonde apart

Minato as Edo can teleport Bijuu to other locations without chakra loss.

Completely false

What you sday is fanfic aka fanon aka invented canon from the fandom

Minato can seal bijuu endlessly without chakra loss into himself, objects or toads

False again

Minato can teleport Gedo Mazo to another location and seal it without chakra loss, this is Minato's fight

False again

With all bijuu sealed, Minato takes on Rinnegan Tobi with Rinnegan he'll still have to solidify to use every tech making him vulnerable as in their last battle. Minato can take advantage of this and..well Rasengan won't work and seals will be absorbed, stabbing won't kill, if he attaches one explosive note, the blast probably won't kill Tobi so he'll need to attach a lot of them. When Tobi's wounded on the floor, seal him.

Of course the biju are sealed you fabricated a scenario that in the manga would never happen,basically fanfic

Tough not even once you mentioned you mentioned what sort of seal does he use to seal the biju and Tobi without dying in the process

Minato can teleport it, he has infinte chakra

False for the severasl time,that's just fanon

It doesn't matter anyway. Minato can seal it, the only requirement for Minato's Eight Trigrams Seal is that the target is there and stationary(which is why he needed Kushina's chains for Kurama) the humongous TBB will be stationary as it is being formed so Minato can seal it in himself and gain an unbelievable chakra boost in addition to being an Edo.

Lol he dies if he doesn't use his Jikkukan Kekkai,reason why he used it in the manga,and not the bullcrap you're saying

It's obvious that Minato wins if you and his other fans attribute to him abilities which he didn't even have or show in the canon

Wow. The poll in this thread, and every post disgusts me.

Not one Minato fan has made even a snippet of a reasonable argument, and yet the poll is still vastly in his favour. I have truly lost all faith about Naruto Base having any sort of intelligence, I know of a select few with this rare thing (yes, trust me, it does exist) and I give credit to them

How fanboys can sit there and make statements like the ones in this thread startles me

I feel you bro,really

Reason why I don't post on the base anymore

They just kill the fun of having a good debate with reasonable points and arguments.;but as it stands now it's just a bunch of demented fanboys who are devoid of logical reasoning

Yeah minato..

Yeah what a solid argument to back up your claims

minato easily

Same as the guy above

since minato has infinite chakra he wud win

He doesn't have

Minato can sense things just by touching the ground.
And if Tobi wouldn't be around it would be just Minato against bijuus and that would make things easier for Minato.

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So no Minato won't sense sh*t with a finger,and he won't even get the time to peacefully do that with 6 sentient beasts cmoing for his life

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

LOL I've had enough with minato hardcore fanboy a couple month ago, but i wonder why i still bother to reply LMAO

 

[BloodSeed]

minato > tobi

come at me bro!

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

minato > tobi

come at me bro!

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[BloodSeed]

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[Bogard]

God the Minato wank/co*k riding is very strong with you son

But for the love of heavens explain to me how does Minato kill a biju with a rasengan and a kunai or how does he seal them if he couldn't even fully seal the fox,,how does he accomplish that with a superior numbers of biju?

Not even a facepalm can express how much fail there is in this post

And what is the fail in my post. Don't forget he managed to mark Bee in less than one second while he was even fighting the Raikage. Minato is fast enough to mark them. And if he marks them he can teleport their attacks like he did against Kyubis TBB to another place. Now imagine if he teleport TBB to the markings he put on Bijuus earlier. They will die from their own attacks.

 

[BloodSeed]

why should he throw his kunai when he had the range to teleport to it?

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why cant he do this?

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[iknowwhotobiis]

And what is the fail in my post. Don't forget he managed to mark Bee in less than one second while he was even fighting the Raikage. Minato is fast enough to mark them. And if he marks them he can teleport their attacks like he did against Kyubis TBB to another place. Now imagine if he teleport TBB to the markings he put on Bijuus earlier. They will die from their own attacks.

you know it takes time to teleport one TBB. Now take your time to imagine how much longer it would take to teleport 6 TBBS while Tobi is trying to rip your soul apart?! I am not going to even mention that minato does not have the chakra capacity to do such feat.

And tobi can just use shinra tensei or chibaku tensei (if you prefer) to get all of minato kunais... so he cannot use FTG.

 

[Badass09]

you know it takes time to teleport one TBB. Now take your time to imagine how much longer it would take to teleport 6 TBBS while Tobi is trying to rip your soul apart?! I am not going to even mention that minato does not have the chakra capacity to do such feat.

And tobi can just use shinra tensei or chibaku tensei (if you prefer) to get all of minato kunais... so he cannot use FTG.

Minato could take shibaku tensei to use against those Bijuus, he could of just teleport shibaku tensei exactly to the place where those bijuu's are placed.

He can teleport to the kunais which are being sucked by shibaku and then grab them all and teleport to a place where he is not afected by shibaku tensei.
Shinra tensei would be useless against him bcuz he can fly away from tobi's control and tobi would be just wasting his chakra.

 

[Bogard]

you know it takes time to teleport one TBB. Now take your time to imagine how much longer it would take to teleport 6 TBBS while Tobi is trying to rip your soul apart?! I am not going to even mention that minato does not have the chakra capacity to do such feat.

And tobi can just use shinra tensei or chibaku tensei (if you prefer) to get all of minato kunais... so he cannot use FTG.

Don't forget that Kyubi is the strongest of all TB. The TBB Minato was able to teleport is from an entire Kyubi. Only a half of Kyubis TBB was able to match with those from 5TBB from other Bijuus. At that time, Hachibi even said: "The Kyubi is really strong after all". Meaning that the power of Kyubi is nothing to compare with the others. And Minato managed to teleport a TBB from an entire Kyubi. So you really think Minato can't teleport that away?

Also i don't really know where you've seen it took too much time. It was maybe even less than 1second from my point of vue. Just take a look:

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[iknowwhotobiis]

@badass09

as minato throw his kunais in the air, nagato can just shinra tensei all of them to him. Dude during chibaku tensei, all the kunais will be in the air so minato will teleport to the air to get them but how will he land back to safety if all of them are on the air?! If you say he has one in reserve far away he loses because he left the fight. soo yeah

what chibaku tensei is not a TBB how would he fly so high?! to reach it and he would not withstand the gravity pull if he gets close to it. So there is no way he would just port the chibaku tensei lol

@Bogard fair enough but read my points regarding shinra tensei + chibaku tensei

 

[Master Tobi]

Current Tobi ftw!

 

[Badass09]

@badass09

as minato throw his kunais in the air, nagato can just shinra tensei all of them to him. Dude during chibaku tensei, all the kunais will be in the air so minato will teleport to the air to get them but how will he land back to safety if all of them are on the air?! If you say he has one in reserve far away he loses because he left the fight. soo yeah

what chibaku tensei is not a TBB how would he fly so high?! to reach it and he would not withstand the gravity pull if he gets close to it. So there is no way he would just port the chibaku tensei lol

@Bogard fair enough but read my points regarding shinra tensei + chibaku tensei

Well, Minato wouldnt be flying to collect his kunais that are being sucked without putting his marks in a safe place b4 starting to collect the kunais. (When you state things, also think about his mastermind...)
Hm, as far as I know, he doesn't need to fly that high, he could just perform the jutsu and then let himself being pulled to the center of the core while aiming his jutsu against Chibaku tensei, if it teleport's anything then he could do that but if it doesn't teleport everything then he could teleport the TBB to the Chibaku's range instead of taking Chibaku to TBB's.

And also you say Nagato I think you meant Tobi. Tobi can use shinra tensei to push away the kunais but he must perform shinra tensei in a way that pushes everything around him bcuz Minato can easily change his position while fighting and a frontal jutsu would be of great use against him. Also if tobi grabs Minato's kunai then it would make things easier for him bcuz that means Tobi solidifies himself to grab kunais and so at that rate Minato could teleport to those kunais and so play with Tobi.

I don't see how Minato could do badly against Tobi... At least not yet.

 

[iknowwhotobiis]

Well, Minato wouldnt be flying to collect his kunais that are being sucked without putting his marks in a safe place b4 starting to collect the kunais. (When you state things, also think about his mastermind...)
Hm, as far as I know, he doesn't need to fly that high, he could just perform the jutsu and then let himself being pulled to the center of the core while aiming his jutsu against Chibaku tensei, if it teleport's anything then he could do that but if it doesn't teleport everything then he could teleport the TBB to the Chibaku's range instead of taking Chibaku to TBB's.

And also you say Nagato I think you meant Tobi. Tobi can use shinra tensei to push away the kunais but he must perform shinra tensei in a way that pushes everything around him bcuz Minato can easily change his position while fighting and a frontal jutsu would be of great use against him. Also if tobi grabs Minato's kunai then it would make things easier for him bcuz that means Tobi solidifies himself to grab kunais and so at that rate Minato could teleport to those kunais and so play with Tobi.

I don't see how Minato could do badly against Tobi... At least not yet.

Yes tobi not nagato sorry. If he used chibaku tensei, there would be no safe place to put a mark, the entire land would he sucked in. Tobi has much more chakra then nagato cuz of the bijuus so technically he could chibaku tensei something much larger.

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see the size?! all his kunais and the land around minato would be sucked in. Minato has no jutsu to destroy or he cannot use S/T to teleport chibaku tensei away. His only option is to run away very far by using a seal he prepared before the fight which would be conceding thus losing vs tobi. Tobi can afford to do this beacuse he can simply go intangible so he would not die from the chibaku itself.

And in the shinra tensei case, tobi would grab all the kunais to bait minato once he teleported to finish tobi. He could just izanagi to grab minato and consume his soul gg wp. Minato has no way to defeat tobi sorry.

 

[BloodSeed]

he will not get caught wanna know why?

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he teleports without throwing his kunai. using the radius


radius.....

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