Sasuke VS Konoha 11 including Sai without Naruto

[Gatsuuga]

I made a thread pretty much them same as this a while ago. I too think that konoha would beat sasuke (mid -low diff). There is to many of them and too many ways for them to kill him.

But for some reason most people that think sasuke will win basically say, sasuke takes out so and so then, kills....... Like everyone will stand there and wait for sasuke to decide its their turn to be killed

Here is a quote that basically summerizes why sasuke will lose

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Posted By: Mr. Beastie
Ill explain why sasuke will lose
Sai-could fly above and fight from the air which will make him a hard target. I mean have you seen how fast sai monsters can move?

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He could easily rain down bird bombs like he did here

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. He could also draw birds to make shadows to increase the range of shikamaru's shadow possesion technique
sakura and ino could heal injured friends. Also sasukes genjustu is useless when they got team members to get them out.
Shino could have his bugs suck sasuke's chakra which will make keep sasuke moving which means no susanoo because susanoo has a huge gap in the back as seen here

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tsukuyomi uses a lot of chakra so him using that tech of everyone is not gonna happen.
Rock lee is already fast without his weights

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and that was two years ago
When he uses his gates nobody can keep up he will surely hit sasuke a couple of times.
Neji and hinata will notify someone if if anybody is caught in a genjutsu. Also the have their techniques as well.
Neji can fight at close range and mide range.
tenten could fight from long range with sai. Sai will porvide her a bird to ride on to make sure she doesnt get hit.

kiba would help with close range combat
If sasuke uses full susanoo Chouji could go into butterfly mode and and keep sasuke busy or at least push susanoo back.

If sasuke decides to ameratsu chouji gets fried and sasuke runs out of chakra.
As you see here sasuke uses ameratsu and susanoo at the same time

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then uses a incomplete susanoo here for a quick second

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Then he couldnt even go into a full susano anymore as seen here

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As karin said sasuke's chakra grew weaker.

So sauke has to use susanoo to make sure none the enemys attcks hit him.
Then that makes him an easy target for shino's bugs,rock lee,and chouji. though he does have arrows. He only has them in a complete susanoo. Also he cant catch rock lee with those arrows. sakura and ino wont be fighting so so they will most likely be hiding till someone catchs a serious injury.
neji and hinata doesnt even have to be in the fight. They could just make sure gets caught in a genjutsu.
Sai and tenten are in the air fighting from long range and his ink monsters are fast so they will be too quick.
If you want me to go into more detail ill be happy to.

 

[FizzyDrink]

Shikamaru is the difference maker here. He is far smarter than Sasuke, and he would definitely be able to figure out a plan with all eleven of them to defeat Sasuke.

 

[Kaedon]

In physical ability (namely speed) only Lee would be able to keep up and that's assuming he opens gates. Sharingan will give an edge in this department because we've only seen 5 gates from Lee and that is simply not enough. On the subject of Sharingan, the only potential counter they have (and I use that term loosely here) are the Byakugan users who may or may not be able to keep line of sight of Sasuke without fearing instant genjutsu usage. I only assume this because of the 360 degree vision, which I think could be a loophole to the whole eye-contact thing.

Without a doubt, Konoha 11 has the means to kill Sasuke. I just don't think they could execute it. Shikamaru is the trump card in this group and as big of a fan as I am of Shika (trust me on this one) I don't think his genius can be applied against such a high-level shinobi, especially one of this type. We are talking about a prodigy here, it's a bulk package. Intelligence, raw ability, bloodline, excellent teachers, etc. His arsenal and quick action in battle wouldn't leave time for Shika's notorious battle plans. Let's face it, we never see Shika fight an opponent that hasn't blatantly given him ample time to think.

Just about every single character of the Konoha 11 is easily blitzed by current Sasuke. To think a teammate is going to intercept is a joke, so then they have to rely on opening created as he takes one down. Between is already great reactions and sharingan, I don't see many getting a good chance (only 2-3 could possibly pull it off). Throw in a perfect Susanoo, Ameratsu or Tsukyomi and it's just silly.

I'm not a "fan boy", it's just a simple fact that Sasuke has great ability. It's how his character has been written and portrayed. Until they showcase some more prowess of the Konoha 11, they just fall short in this match-up. If you were to run a simulation though, I'd say Team Konoha would at the very least win 1 out of 10 battles though.

Edit: A short edit. If you were to give Team Konoha full knowledge and prep time (this includes setting up traps in the designated battle area). They'd probably win more times then they'd lose. The reverse could be applied as well too though.

 

[Chidori6616]

Piece of Cake

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

sasuke far out classes every member and together they still lose.

 

[lnvalid]

shikamaru, nuff said. With his aid the konoha would have a damn good plan to work together and finish sasuke. Skikamaru will be the "brains" of the village once this series ends and naruto is hokage. Shikamaru probably will be naruto's right hand intel man.

 

[UzumakiNaruto20]

I hate to be a Sasuke supporter but:

Sasuke wins this fairly quickly. If Sakura tries to come anywhere near Susanoo she will catch Amaterasu to the face. Susanoo is too strong for shadow possession jutsu. If Chouji gets big he is easy pickings for Amaterasu. Neji and Hinata can't break Susanoo and may just catch an arrow or Amaterasu. Tenten will get knocked out by genjutsu, or whatever jutsu fits. Ino gets taken out with an arrow. Kiba's taijutsu is useless against Susanoo and he will be killed. Shino's bugs are useless and will be swatted away or burned. The only one that stands a chance here is Lee with five gates speed, but the odds are on Sasuke with his arsenal of jutsu's.

 

[SasukeOftheUchiha]

Only one two uses of one jutsu on the Konoha 11 "Die with the thunderclap Kirin!"

 

[Microsword57]

Sasuke can summon his susanoo way before Lee even enters his gates. It takes time to enter the gates while Sasuke can use susanoo damn near instantly. Sasuke doesn't have to keep up, he can simply sit inside his susanoo or ignite his susanoo with amaterasu, which would easily keep Lee from attacking.

Sasuke can summon his hawk to fly thus making Shikamaru's shadow possession jutsu useless. As for Ino anyone with a strong enough will can break her jutsu as Sakura did. And you know Choji has the power to bust a full susanoo that's never been penetrated how? There's also still genjutsu for Sasuke as well not to mention his susanoo arrows and amaterasu sword. With the jutsu Sasuke possesses he can one shot most of the konoha 11. None of them have the necessary speed to avoid amaterasu.

I'm not overestimating Sasuke's power at all. You're underestimating it and that's no surprise considering you think Kakashi can solo him. I'm still laughing at that.



Not really.

Sasuke's demonstrated multiple times in this manga that he has a large chakra reserve. He's used full susanoo twice(once against the real zetsu and once against the clones) since he acquired EMS, ribcage susanoo once(against Itachi), stage 2 susanoo twice(against the Zetsu clones and Kabuto), stage 3 susanoo once(against Kabuto), amaterasu twice(once against kabuto and once against zetsu), genjutsu once(against Zetsu), and chidori once(against Kabuto) and he doesn't look exhausted at all.

Chakra isn't a issue for Sasuke.

Finally someone with brains everytime people do a vs thread with sasuke or any uchiha they always say they will run out of charka i have never seen an uchiha die from that ever. And since when does susanoo take a huge reserve of your charka alone and then using amaterasu and susanoo arrow those moves i havent seen exhaust him yet. Hes done most with a straight face and the first time we seen susanoo this was said right before he did susanoo and before kirin.

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Then itachi used susanoo until the illness and strain of fighting killed him. If itachi had no chakra and used susanoo what exactly do you think that means?

 

[the one over there]

ummmm maybe

 

[Microsword57]

LOL EVERYONE IS SAYING SHIKAMARU WILL SAVE THEM. Ok i give props where is due and shikamaru is a genus but how the hell is he going to convence 7 taijustu users to stick their hands in the flames and die. Unlike Raikage there isnt a "cut my arm off" solution cause who will cut their arms? Thats 7 out of the 11 that physically can't touch sasuke. That leaves Ino, Shino, Shikamaru and Sai. Who i can say simply enough can not dodge an amaterasu. Even ignoring that lets talk about how first ino can not help in this situation in the slightest. First of all ino's tech turns her consciousness into chakra and sends her in a STRAIGHT LINE, at the oppoents body. That so unsafe lol sasuke can move and doesnt even need to she turns her consciousness into chakra. Susanoo is made of chakra. Chakra can Block Chakra which is how susanoo blocks attacks i doubt its getting through. And if the will is strong enough the fact that sasuke can reach full susanoo shows strong will cause thats how he broke danzos seal. Shikamaru can chose to use his shadows to wrap sasuke but sasuke can still just move his eye and amaterasu him. Shino bugs can be killed by 1 amaterasu do to the fact it spreads or he can surrond his ground around him in amaterasu like he did for itachi. Sai amatesaru or just arrow. OR drop susanoo and go beat his ass.

 

[NinLink]

Sasuke could destroy them all by themselves, but he would have a problem if it was with all of them.

 

[Flyest of the fly]

sasuke would die... rock lee is the man... plus all those other people

 

[serpiente clan]

The problem of sasuke girlfriend is that they dont seee that he is no mach vs 11 ninja from diferent clam and the best abilitis..

First is sasuke use susano he is dead shino bugs get tobi remenber and shikamaru use showdo jutsu and ino is waithing to use mind tranfer ..is sasuke runing use amaterasu neji will block we hes defend ability lee is o ready in 7 gates hinata,neji we his eye will seee genjutsu akamaru atacking in the same time choji to sai is there doing hes think ....zzzzz

Sasuke dont got i change they are to many good ninjas shino is the most danger ninja of the 11 and more danger that sasuke and naruto....

 

[ray00077]

so im interested if Sasuke could beat Konoha 11 including Sai without Naruto in the team.
-Sakura
-Sai
-Kiba
-Hinata
-Shino
-Shikamaru
-Choji
-Ino
-Lee
-Neji
-TenTen

I personally think Sasuke cant beat them when they are all united.
tell me ur opinion.

He will winnnn:scorps:

 

[saskue base]

That funny because the sasuke can use his susano amaturasu shurikins he too out the zestu clone with that and they won't be able to dodge it because they have to look into his eyes and the only person with the type of speed to dodge it is lee but he won't sasuke wins with no difficulty he win just as easy as he beat the zestu clone people say he will run out of chakra when he amaturasu the clone he look like it took little chakra to do that sasuke has a lot of chakra all most as much as naruto

 

[the one over there]

sasuke

 

[Rexoniel]

This is what happens when power scaling gets out of hand. Its like Kishi kept giving Naruto and Sasuke powerups throughout the series in ways that it isn't even feasible to most people that anyone else is a match for them. It makes people think Naruto is more useful than all of Konoha, and Sasuke is loaded to the teeth with hax no jutsu.

 

[iMicLykTyson]

wow i just realized that sasuke is really overated, shikamru is a huge factor in this fight he can come up with a strategy while the others are hold sasuke, they have 2 medical ninjas, Shino's bugs go underneath the ground and suck sasuke's chakra, and i just do not see how sasuke is winning this

 

[Dantee]

wow i just realized that sasuke is really overated, shikamru is a huge factor in this fight he can come up with a strategy while the others are hold sasuke, they have 2 medical ninjas, Shino's bugs go underneath the ground and suck sasuke's chakra, and i just do not see how sasuke is winning this

Sasuke isn't overrated. He is pretty much faster, stronger and more battle smarts than all of them. Shikamaru is a genius however he is not aware of Sasukes current powers and lets face it Sasuke won't let him live long knowing what he is capable of. Shikamaru cannot come up with plans on the spot especially those he has no knowledge of powers on.

Hidan for example.

No one of Konoha 11 is fast enough to dodge Susanno arrows. Sasuke will spam this. It will be foolish to think otherwise.