What's the point of hard working in naruto.

[Ngylle]

:scorps:Hello there!

I have been wondering for a while, what is the point of kishimoto showing naruto's determination and his trainings, the hard working to earn thing! that naruto characters represent, if everything he had acomplished is by Plot not justsu!.

Almost all of his victories, battles the plot no jutsu is everywhere when naruto is involved, i have been thinking that is there any battle or anything naruto had acomplished without the plot jutsu? may be someone wants to share a moment or pic because i totally forgot if there is any

 

[datbasianboy]

WHen he beat kakuzu ( all hard work)

 

[al3xsmith13]

his fight against kiba in the chunnin exams... he trained especially hard to win by farting in his face haha

 

[EternalSage]

Pain fight?

 

[gutSy Sage]

dude chill, naruto is a boss

 

[Ngylle]

WHen he beat kakuzu ( all hard work)

Hmm, that one is the most trolling plot not jutsu, naruto ever used on someone.

 

[Naruto super saiyan]

huh raikague???? after training hard 2 get km then he defeats like idk how many zetsus?

 

[Mante]

To make the chapters more interesting :|

 

[BloodSeed]

kishimoto is a bad writter seems like he is forgetting what he writes. you cant even trust characters statements that leads to specutions.

kakashis rampage? where is it?
sasukes carnage is about to come to the battlefield? where is it?
itachi. im leaving suske on your hand im going to stop the edos. what the hell is itachi doing with sasuke?
sasuke looks like cold and what happen when he saw itachi? lol
kishi forgot something if it was pulled from the ass. like how can he teleport Mizukage to madara he pulled an obvious shit out of the ass. Genma Shiranui and Raidō Namiashi are kids when the hokage died how could they become fourths bodygaurds. elite bodyguard my ass :rofl:

 

[datbasianboy]

kishimoto is a bad writter seems like he is forgetting what he writes. you cant even trust characters statements that leads to specutions.

kakashis rampage? where is it?
sasukes carnage is about to come to the battlefield? where is it?
itachi. im leaving suske on your hand im going to stop the edos. what the hell is itachi doing with sasuke?
sasuke looks like cold and what happen when he saw itachi? lol
kishi forgot something if it was pulled from the ass. like how can he teleport Mizukage to madara he pulled an obvious shit out of the ass. Genma Shiranui and Raidō Namiashi are kids when the hokage died how could they become fourths bodygaurds. elite bodyguard my ass :rofl:

I just realised that they really were kids??? because there 30 right now so 16 years ago they would of been 14 and 19 years old

 

[rai shado]

kishimoto is a bad writter seems like he is forgetting what he writes. you cant even trust characters statements that leads to specutions.

kakashis rampage? where is it?
sasukes carnage is about to come to the battlefield? where is it?
itachi. im leaving suske on your hand im going to stop the edos. what the hell is itachi doing with sasuke?
sasuke looks like cold and what happen when he saw itachi? lol
kishi forgot something if it was pulled from the ass. like how can he teleport Mizukage to madara he pulled an obvious shit out of the ass. Genma Shiranui and Raidō Namiashi are kids when the hokage died how could they become fourths bodygaurds. elite bodyguard my ass :rofl:

You guys do realize that Naruto is only 16 and was 15 at the beginning of Shippuuden. He was 12 and 13 in the first part. In fact kakashi is younger then both genma and Raido and yet became a jounin before the 4th even died or became the 4th. So it's fully possible that Genman and Raido were elite bodyguards, what you don't realize is that many people start out young in their ninja training, look at itachi, he became an anbu when he 13, we don't know much about Raido and Genma so we can't go making accusations against them.

As for Itachi saying that he would leave Sasuke to Naruto, Itachi couldn't know that he would run into Sasuke on his way to kabuto, Kishi was writing itachi as consistent as he could and wham, he throws in some more drama by having Sasuke run into Itachi after Sasuke has the learned the truth that Itachi tried so hard to conceal.

Now, there can be alot messed with when it's translated so we can't take what the translators say as exactly what kishi intended. Kishi is actually a pretty good writer and works alot with his culture so we, not being japanese, aren't going to understand some of their cultural memes.

Think before you talk next time.

 

[Simplified]

So uh, stop watching Naruto then? He's kinda the main character, of course plot will be on his side silly

 

[BloodSeed]

You guys do realize that Naruto is only 16 and was 15 at the beginning of Shippuuden. He was 12 and 13 in the first part. In fact kakashi is younger then both genma and Raido and yet became a jounin before the 4th even died or became the 4th. So it's fully possible that Genman and Raido were elite bodyguards, what you don't realize is that many people start out young in their ninja training, look at itachi, he became an anbu when he 13, we don't know much about Raido and Genma so we can't go making accusations against them.

As for Itachi saying that he would leave Sasuke to Naruto, Itachi couldn't know that he would run into Sasuke on his way to kabuto, Kishi was writing itachi as consistent as he could and wham, he throws in some more drama by having Sasuke run into Itachi after Sasuke has the learned the truth that Itachi tried so hard to conceal.

Now, there can be alot messed with when it's translated so we can't take what the translators say as exactly what kishi intended. Kishi is actually a pretty good writer and works alot with his culture so we, not being japanese, aren't going to understand some of their cultural memes.

Think before you talk next time.

and raido and genma are stronger than kakashi they were choose as his BODYGUARDS

Think before you talk next time.

 

[LolaxXx]

Buncha noobs, I swear.

 

[datbasianboy]

You guys do realize that Naruto is only 16 and was 15 at the beginning of Shippuuden. He was 12 and 13 in the first part. In fact kakashi is younger then both genma and Raido and yet became a jounin before the 4th even died or became the 4th. So it's fully possible that Genman and Raido were elite bodyguards, what you don't realize is that many people start out young in their ninja training, look at itachi, he became an anbu when he 13, we don't know much about Raido and Genma so we can't go making accusations against them.

As for Itachi saying that he would leave Sasuke to Naruto, Itachi couldn't know that he would run into Sasuke on his way to kabuto, Kishi was writing itachi as consistent as he could and wham, he throws in some more drama by having Sasuke run into Itachi after Sasuke has the learned the truth that Itachi tried so hard to conceal.

Now, there can be alot messed with when it's translated so we can't take what the translators say as exactly what kishi intended. Kishi is actually a pretty good writer and works alot with his culture so we, not being japanese, aren't going to understand some of their cultural memes.

Think before you talk next time.

ummmm direct that at the correct person to posted the thread next tiime. think before u post. i only commented on there age nothing more

 

[rai shado]

and raido and genma are stronger than kakashi they were choose as his BODYGUARDS

Think before you talk next time.

Okay, I honestly don't know why raido and genma being stronger than Kakashi matters that much, since Kakashi is stronger now, but they were stronger when Minato became the fourth. Unless your thinking they are Kakashi's bodyguards in which you would be wrong since they are Tsunade's. I only used Kakashi as an example to show that age doesn't matter in the Naruto universe.

I say again think before you talk next time.

 

[BloodSeed]

Okay, I honestly don't know why raido and genma being stronger than Kakashi matters that much, since Kakashi is stronger now, but they were stronger when Minato became the fourth. Unless your thinking they are Kakashi's bodyguards in which you would be wrong since they are Tsunade's. I only used Kakashi as an example to show that age doesn't matter in the Naruto universe.

I say again think before you talk next time.

they were stronger than kakashi when minato become the fourth? it was stated that kakashi was the prodigy not raido and genma it is absolutely pulled from the ass by kishi that they become bodyguards of the fourth. now go home and take youre fail with you :sy:

 

[Baka Sennin]

in their times, people became chuunin at age 6. it's perfectly possible for them to have been jounin by age 15, and they don't necessarily have to be better than kakashi to be minato's guard. People are going by what the kage took to their summit, the elite shinobi of their villages. But Hiruzen and Tsunade mostly use Izuna and Kotetsu, who are chuunin. I think that is what kishi meant by genma,raido etc being his 'guard'.

 

[Kurama2012]

every fights gonna have a plot and the storys not just about working hard its about friendship and you cant say you didnt expect naruto to gain the power of the fox as its narutos main power and naruto has trained hard to get to where he is now granted hes trained less for the bm but controlling the fox chakra will grant you unbelievable power.
what did you expect would happen when naruto controlled the fox

 

[BloodSeed]

in their times, people became chuunin at age 6. it's perfectly possible for them to have been jounin by age 15, and they don't necessarily have to be better than kakashi to be minato's guard. People are going by what the kage took to their summit, the elite shinobi of their villages. But Hiruzen and Tsunade mostly use Izuna and Kotetsu, who are chuunin. I think that is what kishi meant by genma,raido etc being his 'guard'.

kakashi and guy are not allowed to participate in the ninetails attack. what are those guard for? it was said body guard not servants lol. and minato is the one thats going to protect them not those kids