J-man vs deidara

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Deidara's c4 could not affect the wood and probably cannot affect earth style user.
Also jman has fire element that can be very handy against explosives , there by deidara.
So Jman looks the winner for me.
 

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Deidara would beat almost any character without a dojutsu with his nano bombs

this.. j-man is my favorite character, but i also agree that anyone without dojutsu would prolly lose too deidara.. unless they have some other way too sense nanos, maybe j-man in sage mode could, with ma and pa..
 

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I cant belive this is arguable deidara wins stupid fanboys

Are you dumb? so youre saying sasuke uchiha was stronger than jiraiya? I would LOVE to see sasuke put up a fight like jiraiya did against konan AND pain.

idiots are arguing that jiraiya cant counter bombs? he knows flame jutsu... last time i checked FLAME MAKES BOMBS EXPLODE! gammabunta and all the toads would render deidara useless. Lets not forget he can run out of clay as well. Jiraiya can easily summon those giant frogs and wipe the floor with deidara.

ever head of toad flame bombs? ever head of oil? if jman used a wind jutsu of some sort to redirect deidaras bombs with oil on him KABOOM. Game over

Jman wins with med- High difficulty.
 

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I agree with NoMoreLove

Seriously guys Jiraiya wins this with Mid-High difficulty..... there is no advantage or dissadvantage here, even if Deidara flies into the air, so what Jiraiya summons a toad and jumps high into the air and attacks with a massive flame.

Deidara on the other hand will run out of clay, which Jiraiya would outlast.
 

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Blaze Release, Uzumaki16 and i already finished this debate. Let it go everyone else. haha
 

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Are you dumb? so youre saying sasuke uchiha was stronger than jiraiya? I would LOVE to see sasuke put up a fight like jiraiya did against konan AND pain.

idiots are arguing that jiraiya cant counter bombs? he knows flame jutsu... last time i checked FLAME MAKES BOMBS EXPLODE! gammabunta and all the toads would render deidara useless. Lets not forget he can run out of clay as well. Jiraiya can easily summon those giant frogs and wipe the floor with deidara.

ever head of toad flame bombs? ever head of oil? if jman used a wind jutsu of some sort to redirect deidaras bombs with oil on him KABOOM. Game over

Jman wins with med- High difficulty.

You really are stupid.
Naruto is not a simple math equation.
A>B
B>C
then C>A does not necessarily work.


Sauske was THE PERFECT match for deidara. Sauske had all of the advantages which rendered most of deidara's techniques useless.

show me where in the real world, or in naruto in which flames made CLAY explode.


Lastly, why did you forget Deidara's ability to make nano sized bombs? It was probably because it would screw up your argument. all he would need to do is set that off, and byby j-man AND his summons.
 

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I never use experience in an argument because it's too feeble in spite of high-powered jutsu nowadays....

But on this one? Deidara is almost as brash as Sasuke.

Jiraiya can also escape the suicide bomb technique the same way Sasuke did. Hell, it'd be even easier as the summons would actually concede to it and he wouldn't have to use genjutsu.
 

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KM lets NARUTO sense danger.
SM lets you sense chakara. So ooo yayy he can sense it flowing throughout his body right before he dies....



Pwned.

Just kidding. Just read it. We all forget shit sometimes...

KM just lets you sense malicious intent, which is still better sensing than Sage Mode because nobody else can do it. It's a unique skill to the Kyuubi.
 

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wtf deidara is so gay, why are so many people on his nuts. Jman all the way, no difficulty
 

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Pwned.

Just kidding. Just read it. We all forget shit sometimes...

KM just lets you sense malicious intent, which is still better sensing than Sage Mode because nobody else can do it. It's a unique skill to the Kyuubi.

Ok well it still doesn't change that sensing danger would let him avoid nano bombs
 

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Gamabunta = Fire/Oil bomb destruction which can counter all deidara's clay birds and such, and have you even seen how fast and powerful Gamabunta is, he can easily dodge Deidara's attacks.

Gamabunta avoided several attacks from several opponents and summons with ease and in the new movie Blood prison he keeps dodging attacks from a surperior opponent.

so dont come and say summons wont work. especially Ma & Pa will devastate Deidara.


Ma and Pa's sound genjutsu would catch deidara anyway. Not only that Pa's water release (the thing she used to kill Pein's chameleon) might get him too.

I also think there was a lot more to J-man that we were allowed to see, he was old, experienced and was a Sannin as a result. I think deidara lacks the discipline to beat someone like that, he's the sort of guy to celebrate a victory before he gets it and get smashed as a result.
 

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Jiraiya stomps him.

Maybe not *STOMPS* but I think he would handle Deidara mid difficulty. I see a lot of people saying Deidara, and although he does have the advantage, I think the difference in strength is a bit wide. J-man probably would have even taken Pein down had he known his abilities from the start like Naruto did, but that's just my opinion.

Location would probably play a pretty important role here. If they fought in close quarters (such as where Jiraiya fought Pein) then I'd give it to Jiraiya no problem, but if they fought in a place like Sunagakure or where Sasuke fought him, it wouldn't be as easy... I'm still pretty certain Jiraiya would win, though.

Again...just my opinion :p
 
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Ma and Pa's sound genjutsu would catch deidara anyway. Not only that Pa's water release (the thing she used to kill Pein's chameleon) might get him too.

I also think there was a lot more to J-man that we were allowed to see, he was old, experienced and was a Sannin as a result. I think deidara lacks the discipline to beat someone like that, he's the sort of guy to celebrate a victory before he gets it and get smashed as a result.

That's another reason I think J-man would pretty much eat Deidy alive...Jiraiya would dismantle him mentally, calling him kid, pointing out his inexperience and strategic flaws, and even with the nano bombs, I think Jiraiya would instinctively know to get out of there; hell, if he wasn't trapped or something, then I would imagine he would already be far enough away. People forget how far his toads can jump--he would have been able to cover far more distance than Sasuke did, theoretically.
 

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Jiraya wins high difficulty.
The c4 can be evaded by reverse summoning and remember sage mode can sense chakra so he would sense the small bombs and reverse summon himself to the toad island or evade them like sasuke since he can sense it.
J-man's hair can extend and grab deidara and gamabunta can slice his sword high enough to reach deidara in the sky.
Jiraya has higher chakra and will outlast deidara till his clay and chakra is finished :shrug:
Jiraya will win but will loose his summons to bombs xd
 
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