J-man vs deidara

[The Necromancer]

I think people give deidara wayyyyyy to much hype. I read a thread a few days ago saying he was the #1 ninja in the entire manga, and that his ultimate tech was greater than Madara's meteors....

 

[~Uzumaki~]

This thread is turning into a science class... what have i done...

Lol. NB Chemistry 101

 

[BloodSeekerZ]

The problem with all that is, is that's IF Jman knew how the jutsu worked. Sasuke was able to counter with Sharingan. Something Jiraiya doesn't have so what will he do if he thinks the explosion was a fail like sasuke did?

@Blaze xD

Everything is IF because it is a speculation, Everything in this thread that states who would win is an Opinion and that is a Fact.

 

[Blaze Release]

In order to blow something you must take in (inhale) air right?, there you go

I think people give deidara wayyyyyy to much hype. I read a thread a few days ago saying he was the #1 ninja in the entire manga, and that his ultimate tech was greater than Madara's meteors....

You hear fail posts about every character, if you stay here longer you get used to it. C4 is a frighting technique and ranks very high

 

[The Necromancer]

In order to blow something you must take in (inhale) air right?, there you go

Assuming Jiraiya is standing on the toe of the giant Deidara that releases it... sasuke was something like 200 meters away when he saw it explode and had enough time to cast a genjutsu on deidara and analyze what was happening before the cloud even hit him.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Yes the nano bombs travel though the air you breath which for obvious reasons you cannot stop. Secondly what you are saying is that jiraiya can see those nano bombs and he cannot. Thirdly you believe he will be infront of those nano bombs (for some strange reason), but c4 when it explodes its all around you.

Tbb this issue will never be resolved because neutrals say deidora people who favour jiraiya will say something else. The idea of jiraiya seeing or noticing those bombs alone isnt plausible. The idea of him not inhaling it at all due to the flimsy argument with the fire technique isnt happening

Bomb explodes in front of him, meaning gas starts spreading from in front of him, Fire techs pushes all gas away in front of him.
Reason-He uses Fire Tech on giant Deidara expecting a real bomb and that his fire technique will push the blast of the bomb away from him and now indirectly counters C4 Karura. Uses same fire technique to kill Deidara who can only block with bombs which will explode and increase the firepower killing him.

 

[The Necromancer]

And even if he inhales some, if he manages to blow the cloud away, deidara will be breathing them in too, seeing as how he loves to fly right outside of their radius like an idiot, and can't see them as well.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

In order to blow something you must take in (inhale) air right?, there you go



You hear fail posts about every character, if you stay here longer you get used to it. C4 is a frighting technique and ranks very high

Read my post, Jiraiya does this before Giant Deidara explodes releasing the toxic nano bombs.

 

[Cerox0]

Everything is IF because it is a speculation, Everything in this thread that states who would win is an Opinion and that is a Fact.

Still doesn't answer my question. Truth is Jman probably won't know how it works ( I mean how could he, unless he was informed like the way he informed the village about Pain but highly unlikely). And thus die and lose Lawl

 

[Blaze Release]

Assuming Jiraiya is standing on the toe of the giant Deidara that releases it... sasuke was something like 200 meters away when he saw it explode and had enough time to cast a genjutsu on deidara and analyze what was happening before the cloud even hit him.

If go back to the manga animals a couple of yards away from him got wasted in a couple of seconds. Sasuke was able to analyse the situation because he had an advantage with the sharigan, gawd what is so hard to get.

Also the bombs do not travel in a straight line. Its mixed with the air and if blown it gets blown in all directions and not in a straight line

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Well. I've won, this is getting boring. I'm out. Peace!

 

[Blaze Release]

And even if he inhales some, if he manages to blow the cloud away, deidara will be breathing them in too, seeing as how he loves to fly right outside of their radius like an idiot, and can't see them as well.

Lmao i like the way you finally admit defeat but at the same time try to say it affects deidora aswell. For you lets say draw, happy? :noc:

 

[The Necromancer]

If go back to the manga animals a couple of yards away from him got wasted in a couple of seconds. Sasuke was able to analyse the situation because he had an advantage with the sharigan, gawd what is so hard to get.

Also the bombs do not travel in a straight line. Its mixed with the air and if blown it gets blown in all directions and not in a straight line

See, that's what i never understood. Why was it that the animals were destroyed immediately while sasuke had time to deactivate them..? Deidara clearly didn't control the detonation, but the times each detonation took were different...

 

[The Necromancer]

Lmao i like the way you finally admit defeat but at the same time try to say it affects deidora aswell. For you lets say draw, happy? :noc:

Lmao. Seeing as how it ended up being 3 people discussing, a draw seems fair enough. I guess we'll never know.

 

[BloodSeekerZ]

Still doesn't answer my question. Truth is Jman probably won't know how it works ( I mean how could he, unless he was informed like the way he informed the village about Pain but highly unlikely). And thus die and lose Lawl

Yeah, I guess but we would never know. J-Man has been around for a while gathering datas. Datas that might even include Deidara's C4.

 

[Blaze Release]

See, that's what i never understood. Why was it that the animals were destroyed immediately while sasuke had time to deactivate them..? Deidara clearly didn't control the detonation, but the times each detonation took were different...

Because of you go back to sasuke's hypothesis he figured out diedora's technique from the start. It didnt matter whether it was c1,2 3 or c4 because its still earth element and sasuke due to deidora showing his hand seals saw that it was earth element. Im not going to explain the othe bits of his hypothesis, but what im saying is that because he had figured out c1,2 and 3 already and how to diffuse them, along with the sharigan he was able to see c4 then use chidori on himself. He then casted a genjutsu on diedora and bla bla bla

 

[The Necromancer]

Because of you go back to sasuke's hypothesis he figured out diedora's technique from the start. It didnt matter whether it was c1,2 3 or c4 because its still earth element and sasuke due to deidora showing his hand seals saw that it was earth element. Im not going to explain the othe bits of his hypothesis, but what im saying is that because he had figured out c1,2 and 3 already and how to diffuse them, along with the sharigan he was able to see c4 then use chidori on himself.

But why wasn't he disintegrating the second they were in his system like the animals? Why did he even have time to use chidori on himself, is what i'm saying.

 

[BloodSeekerZ]

Lightning can deactivate earth type jutsus.

 

[EnvyMyApex]

Jiraiya.

 

[Blaze Release]

But why wasn't he disintegrating the second they were in his system like the animals? Why did he even have time to use chidori on himself, is what i'm saying.

He thought c4 was a massive technique going by how deidora's technique works. Obviously he would start to run, the animals around him have no idea what is gong on. Whilst making a run for it, he saw the gas cloud that the sharigan made c4 look like;

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Its then did he use chidori on himself. So for example even if sasuke knew the weakness of c1, c2 and c3. Due to how c4 works even though he knows how to diffuse the bombs whether c1,2,3 or 4 he doesnt have a clue what is going on, therefore he wouldnt think to run chidori into himself. He wouldnt have been able to react to c4 if it wasnt for the sharigan even though he can diffuse it