Hashirama Senju vs Tobirama Senju and Minato Namikaze

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Tobirama and Minato win, seriously, Tobirama has Intel, Edo, even if we don't know what ninja he can summon, we know that he was smart enough to realize what happens if the summoner dies, so if anything he has permanent fodder ninja walking the battlefield, he also has the sword of the thunder god

Minato has his S/t tech, reaper death seal, and was able to slice bee's tentacle in half with his kunai, Hashirama was good, but he died young none the less, two S/t users are too much for almost any ninja, and Tobirama is the best water user other than Kisame, everyone has limits, even Hashirama

First of all. You guys dont tell me how they would win but just that they would.

Second is that Hashirama was better than Tobirama. And we do not know the edo's we just know that they were probably not fodder, none the less they are no match and can be restricted by mokuton.

The sword of thunder is non-canon but even if it was there it is not going to help him all that much.

Tobirama was a better water user than kisame.

And I already explained how the s/t is useless all they could do is use it for transportation, and Hashirama can counter that because they have to use seals and seals can be moved and absorbed by him.

Hashirama is just a bad match up for the two.
 

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"And now your making stuff up with the whole edo thing seriously he prepared before the fight?

well then Hashirama prepared by going to sasuke and killing him taking EMS and now has rinnegan and EMS.

Your such a hater its hilarious!! " How am I making stuff up about the Edo? Are you really that retarded or do you not know how the jutsu works? Oh ok so your saying that Kabuto just magically got all of those DNA from all of those ninjas in an instant huh? ok really believable kid xd How do you figure Hashirama and sasuke? are you High right now or something because that didnt make any sense at all o_O How am I a hater? Your the only one hatin on the 2nd and the 4th here not me. You just hate to lose, have no proof at all of what your trying to say, and you keep arguing with me like I really care xd lol your funny kid :p I must admit this is the most fun I've had all month so I must thank you for that lol :D

Tobirama and Minato win, seriously, Tobirama has Intel, Edo, even if we don't know what ninja he can summon, we know that he was smart enough to realize what happens if the summoner dies, so if anything he has permanent fodder ninja walking the battlefield, he also has the sword of the thunder god

Minato has his S/t tech, reaper death seal, and was able to slice bee's tentacle in half with his kunai, Hashirama was good, but he died young none the less, two S/t users are too much for almost any ninja, and Tobirama is the best water user other than Kisame, everyone has limits, even Hashirama

Thank you xd again someone gets it other than me :p good job +rep :D

First of all. You guys dont tell me how they would win but just that they would.

Second is that Hashirama was better than Tobirama. And we do not know the edo's we just know that they were probably not fodder, none the less they are no match and can be restricted by mokuton.

The sword of thunder is non-canon but even if it was there it is not going to help him all that much.

Tobirama was a better water user than kisame.

And I already explained how the s/t is useless all they could do is use it for transportation, and Hashirama can counter that because they have to use seals and seals can be moved and absorbed by him.

Hashirama is just a bad match up for the two.

Wtf are you talking about? We do tell you how they would win but you got your head so far up Hashirama's @$$ that you cant see the fact that Hashirama would lose to the 2nd and 4th.
Hashirama was better than Tobirama yes but not by much and the 4th is better than both so 1st>2 but 4+2>1 so you need to do some more research :/

Sword of thunder wont help them? o_O ok now I know your High xd lol go to sleep kid its past your bed time anyways. Obviously you dont have any idea what your talking about lol

Yes Tobirama was a way better water use than Kisame you got that right.

S/T isnt useless only in your eyes it is because you dont want to admit that your wrong
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Seals CANT be moved and they cant be absorbed

Your right he is a bad match. the 1st would lose to the 4th and 2nd end of subject, bye, adios, go away, have a nice day, etc. Dude you have NO proof at all, NO logic, you obviously have NO idea what your talking about, and you MUST be high because your not making any sense :/ lol but you do make me laugh so thats a plus lol
 

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"And now your making stuff up with the whole edo thing seriously he prepared before the fight?

well then Hashirama prepared by going to sasuke and killing him taking EMS and now has rinnegan and EMS.

Your such a hater its hilarious!! " How am I making stuff up about the Edo? Are you really that retarded or do you not know how the jutsu works? Oh ok so your saying that Kabuto just magically got all of those DNA from all of those ninjas in an instant huh? ok really believable kid xd How do you figure Hashirama and sasuke? are you High right now or something because that didnt make any sense at all o_O How am I a hater? Your the only one hatin on the 2nd and the 4th here not me. You just hate to lose, have no proof at all of what your trying to say, and you keep arguing with me like I really care xd lol your funny kid :p I must admit this is the most fun I've had all month so I must thank you for that lol :D



Thank you xd again someone gets it other than me :p good job +rep :D

First of all. You guys dont tell me how they would win but just that they would.

Second is that Hashirama was better than Tobirama. And we do not know the edo's we just know that they were probably not fodder, none the less they are no match and can be restricted by mokuton.

The sword of thunder is non-canon but even if it was there it is not going to help him all that much.

Tobirama was a better water user than kisame.

And I already explained how the s/t is useless all they could do is use it for transportation, and Hashirama can counter that because they have to use seals and seals can be moved and absorbed by him.

Hashirama is just a bad match up for the two.

Wtf are you talking about? We do tell you how they would win but you got your head so far up Hashirama's @$$ that you cant see the fact that Hashirama would lose to the 2nd and 4th.
Hashirama was better than Tobirama yes but not by much and the 4th is better than both so 1st>2 but 4+2>1 so you need to do some more research :/

Sword of thunder wont help them? o_O ok now I know your High xd lol go to sleep kid its past your bed time anyways. Obviously you dont have any idea what your talking about lol

Yes Tobirama was a way better water use than Kisame you got that right.

S/T isnt useless only in your eyes it is because you dont want to admit that your wrong
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Seals CANT be moved and they cant be absorbed

Your right he is a bad match. the 1st would lose to the 4th and 2nd end of subject, bye, adios, go away, have a nice day, etc. Dude you have NO proof at all, NO logic, you obviously have NO idea what your talking about, and you MUST be high because your not making any sense :/ lol but you do make me laugh so thats a plus lol

HAHAHAHAA! Wow you really can not come up with anything at all ;)

I have beat every one of your points and All you can do is insult me because your a little man.

Hashirama wins and I proved it anybody who can read this thread knows that BWHWHWWHWH!! you suck so bad at debating that its annoying.

GTFO of your own thread because its a fail and Hashirama wins!
 

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This is severely overrating Hashirama. He's very strong, but there's no way he's taking 2 of the strongest kages that ever lived.
 

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HAHAHAHAA! Wow you really can not come up with anything at all ;)

I have beat every one of your points and All you can do is insult me because your a little man.

Hashirama wins and I proved it anybody who can read this thread knows that BWHWHWWHWH!! you suck so bad at debating that its annoying.

GTFO of your own thread because its a fail and Hashirama wins!

xd lol wow you fail so much xd You havnt proved anything all you've done is state your OPINION while me and others have stated FACTS and were the only ones who shot down your points not the other way around lol apparently you are High xd little man? im 6"4 and I'm little? lol good one :p Hashirama dosnt win anything, You HAVNT proved anything other than Kisame can make a big bubble
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thats the only thing you've PROVEN to anyone. I suck at debating? lol funny since I'm number one on my debate team try again lil boy.

You are the one who needs to GTFO xd like i've been saying all along. PROVE TO ME YOUR POINTS, STATE YOUR FACTS, and then maybe it will start making some sense.

And out of all of what I replied with all you can come up with is that I suck at debating and I fail? xd lol that proves you have nothing else to say and that you lost. I've proved my point over time and time again while all you've done is say "No flower world that will beat both of them" no it wont xd your such a fail get a life :p



This is severely overrating Hashirama. He's very strong, but there's no way he's taking 2 of the strongest kages that ever lived.

Omg thank you again for stating that lol apparently the guy above dosnt believe that Hashirama is over matched xd lol
 

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Oh my god can someone actually explain how he wins? Seriously? I am baffled!

Minato: rasengan, sealing, FTG, S/T barrier, sensing, DRS, and summons.

Tobirama: Awesome soiton, edo, S/T(teleportation and barrier)

Hashirama's WS beats soiton his nativity trees beats pretty much all of it and He can make the Flower world which knocks out Kage level opponents. Hashirama can move all of Minato's, and Tobirama's tags and make them unusable and their Barriers can't really help them. Edo is not going to help because his edo summons are not going to be a match for Tobirama. And Hashirama has Bringer of darkness which he can use to take out Minato easily. Hashirama's healing keeps him from getting one shoted by rasengan, kunai attacks are useless because Hashirama is a master at weaponry and sword>kunai.

Hashirama would win hard difficulty.
 

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Oh my god can someone actually explain how he wins? Seriously? I am baffled!

Minato: rasengan, sealing, FTG, S/T barrier, sensing, DRS, and summons.

Tobirama: Awesome soiton, edo, S/T(teleportation and barrier)

Hashirama's WS beats soiton his nativity trees beats pretty much all of it and He can make the Flower world which knocks out Kage level opponents. Hashirama can move all of Minato's, and Tobirama's tags and make them unusable and their Barriers can't really help them. Edo is not going to help because his edo summons are not going to be a match for Tobirama. And Hashirama has Bringer of darkness which he can use to take out Minato easily. Hashirama's healing keeps him from getting one shoted by rasengan, kunai attacks are useless because Hashirama is a master at weaponry and sword>kunai.

Hashirama would win hard difficulty.

We've explained it over and over to you already if you cant figure it out then you obviously fail at life >_>

Wow I love how you gave Tobirama 4 jutsu's and the 4th 7 and then gave Hashirama a whole paragraph xd lol wow your such a fanboy :p

You keep going back to the same thing over and over again. yes I get it ok Hashirama can make twigs and dasiys wow I'm so scared xd lol if your pansy world is so strong then how come the Kages woke up before Madara could finish them and how come its so easy to beat?
lol Like I said GET RESEARCH, PROVE TO ME YOUR POINTS, AND THEN STATE YOUR FACTS if you cant even do those then your a waste of space on my thread and should leave ASAP because your not impressing anyone by being wrong :/ just admit your wrong or PROVE me wrong and we can be on our way like nothing ever happend :/ if not the STFU and GTFO >_>
 

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We've explained it over and over to you already if you cant figure it out then you obviously fail at life >_>

Wow I love how you gave Tobirama 4 jutsu's and the 4th 7 and then gave Hashirama a whole paragraph xd lol wow your such a fanboy :p

You keep going back to the same thing over and over again. yes I get it ok Hashirama can make twigs and dasiys wow I'm so scared xd lol if your pansy world is so strong then how come the Kages woke up before Madara could finish them and how come its so easy to beat?
lol Like I said GET RESEARCH, PROVE TO ME YOUR POINTS, AND THEN STATE YOUR FACTS if you cant even do those then your a waste of space on my thread and should leave ASAP because your not impressing anyone by being wrong :/ just admit your wrong or PROVE me wrong and we can be on our way like nothing ever happend :/ if not the STFU and GTFO >_>

HAHAH!! you mad bro???!!! BWHAHAHHAHA! You sound so angry!

Hashirama wins bro I already proved it! Stop getting mad bro you sound like your about to flip out on NB! BWHAHAHAHA! cool down and look at the facts bro you lost. get over it you sound mad you should just get off if your getting that mad!
 

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HAHAH!! you mad bro???!!! BWHAHAHHAHA! You sound so angry!

Hashirama wins bro I already proved it! Stop getting mad bro you sound like your about to flip out on NB! BWHAHAHAHA! cool down and look at the facts bro you lost. get over it you sound mad you should just get off if your getting that mad!

xd lol wow your such a fail. Me mad? why because some little kid on the INTERNET is getting mad because he cant even prove one point xd lol no but nice try ;) i've already told you this is more fun that i've had in a whole month theres no need to get mad because I know Im right and your wrong :/

"Hashirama wins bro I already proved it!" you proved it? Since when xd the only thing you proved is that you must be either high, dumb, or cant read lol

"cool down and look at the facts bro you lost." I've looked at the facts. The facts that I've provided against the OPINIONS that you've provided. which one overrides the other I wonder.....facts beats opinions everyday bra so I will say it once more. GET RESEARCH, PROVE TO ME YOUR POINTS, AND THEN STATE YOUR FACTS if you cant then simply GTFO and STFU simple as that :shrug:
 

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xd lol wow your such a fail. Me mad? why because some little kid on the INTERNET is getting mad because he cant even prove one point xd lol no but nice try ;) i've already told you this is more fun that i've had in a whole month theres no need to get mad because I know Im right and your wrong :/

"Hashirama wins bro I already proved it!" you proved it? Since when xd the only thing you proved is that you must be either high, dumb, or cant read lol

"cool down and look at the facts bro you lost." I've looked at the facts. The facts that I've provided against the OPINIONS that you've provided. which one overrides the other I wonder.....facts beats opinions everyday bra so I will say it once more. GET RESEARCH, PROVE TO ME YOUR POINTS, AND THEN STATE YOUR FACTS if you cant then simply GTFO and STFU simple as that :shrug:

What facts? All you have shown me was your lame opinions. Your so lame get over it you lost. ;)
 

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What facts? All you have shown me was your lame opinions. Your so lame get over it you lost. ;)

xd I love how your trying to turn my OWN words against me lol wow you fail so much :flaw: I've clearly won this debate since you cannot prove anything that you are saying. Not one thing that you have said made any sense or was proven. I've gave you countless times to prove me wrong, and to post your facts and prove your points and you've done neither of all 3. Hell you couldnt even research correctly xd we've even gave you our facts, our points, and we proven to you that Hashirama<2nd and 4th Hokage your such a waste of space its not even funny more like sad :shrug:

What turned out as a friendly debate turned into a all out war because you couldnt prove anything at all. Not ONE thing you said was proven true at all.

Im so lame and I should get lost? ROFL lol your such a moron this is my thread :p if you dont like it then leave. :cool:
 

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xd I love how your trying to turn my OWN words against me lol wow you fail so much :flaw: I've clearly won this debate since you cannot prove anything that you are saying. Not one thing that you have said made any sense or was proven. I've gave you countless times to prove me wrong, and to post your facts and prove your points and you've done neither of all 3. Hell you couldnt even research correctly xd we've even gave you our facts, our points, and we proven to you that Hashirama<2nd and 4th Hokage your such a waste of space its not even funny more like sad :shrug:

What turned out as a friendly debate turned into a all out war because you couldnt prove anything at all. Not ONE thing you said was proven true at all.

Im so lame and I should get lost? ROFL lol your such a moron this is my thread :p if you dont like it then leave. :cool:

HAHAHAAHA!! your so dumb you just admitted that Hashirama beats the 4th and 2nd. Your arrow idiot. And Here are some facts.



How are they going to beat this?



How are they going to beat this?

Come on these are manga facts, show me in the manga where it says Tobirama can drown the forest.

And this is my thread now! ;)
 

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"HAHAHAAHA!! your so dumb you just admitted that Hashirama beats the 4th and 2nd. Your arrow idiot. And Here are some facts." _O- _O- _O- _O- lol your so *$cking dumb xd do you even know what > or < means? xd the wide part of the < goes to the winner obviously you dont know basic math either because you would know the less than or greater than symbols xd lol your a moron :p Hashirama is < compared to Tobirama and Minato lol

"How are they going to beat this?" uhhhh may I remind you that Naruto did with HIS rasangen. Dude face it You little twigs and stems suck >_>

Oh also Oonko did too

your right those are manga facts but they go against everything your saying xd lol wow your a fail

Hes a the best Suiton user in Narutoverse not even Kisame can match him (although he is close)

This is your thread now? lol ok you can have it idc but you still lost the debate xd
 

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"HAHAHAAHA!! your so dumb you just admitted that Hashirama beats the 4th and 2nd. Your arrow idiot. And Here are some facts." _O- _O- _O- _O- lol your so *$cking dumb xd do you even know what > or < means? xd the wide part of the < goes to the winner obviously you dont know basic math either because you would know the less than or greater than symbols xd lol your a moron :p Hashirama is < compared to Tobirama and Minato lol

"How are they going to beat this?" uhhhh may I remind you that Naruto did with HIS rasangen. Dude face it You little twigs and stems suck >_>

Oh also Oonko did too

your right those are manga facts but they go against everything your saying xd lol wow your a fail

Hes a the best Suiton user in Narutoverse not even Kisame can match him (although he is close)

This is your thread now? lol ok you can have it idc but you still lost the debate xd

god your such a ***** bye have fun making fail threads
 

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Seriously. This is getting way too out of hand.

If you two can't agree with each other then at least have the decency to agree to disagree. Flaming and insulting each other does nothing but add useless pages to this thread.
 

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Seriously. This is getting way too out of hand.

If you two can't agree with each other then at least have the decency to agree to disagree. Flaming and insulting each other does nothing but add useless pages to this thread.

Thank you for your input and concern but its been settled with already. Thank you for posting anyways and hope you have a nice day/Night (morning where I'm at) lol :p
 

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Hashirama wins dude get over it. All of your arguments make no sense. If Tobirama tried to drown the forrest then Hashirama would just open up a mote and make it all flow away.

Minato can not fight Hashirama in hand to hand and win. And All of his seals will become useless.
Tobirama can't summon 1000 edo's even if he did Hashirama would just open the ground up and make them all fall in a pit then activate the nativity world to stab them all and restrict their movement (just like how Kabuto did to Itachi).

Minato can not fight Hashirama with just kunai and rasengan because Hashirama can heal from both and he only needs to hit minato once. And Minato can not get away because Hashirama could send all of his clones to go and grab all of his thrown kunai and if he teleports to them then they will kill him.

And soiton attack that the 2nd can preform can be blocked by trees and 1st could just open up the ground and make it flow away. Plus Hashirama could just make 10 wood clones for both Minato and Tobirama and then its 10 v. 1 or 20 v. 2 (however you want to look at it.

Hashirama wins. Hard difficulty.
 
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