Orochimaru vs Kisame and Haku

[Noobastank]

Orochimaru, with Kusanagi

Affinities: Earth, Wind

Ninjutsu 5
Taijutsu 3.5
Genjutsu 5
Intelligence 5
Strength 3.5
Speed 4.5
Hand seals 3.5
Stamina 5
Total 35

Restrictions. Edo Tensei,If believed necessary may only be used to summon one, Chuunin level shinobi.

Kisame, with Samehada

Affinities: Water


Ninjutsu 4.5
Taijutsu 4.5
Genjutsu 2.5
Intelligence 3.5
Strength 5
Speed 4
Hand seals 3.5
Stamina 5
Total 32.5


Haku

Affinities: Ice, Wind, Water

Ninjutsu 3.5
Taijutsu 1
Genjutsu 1
Intelligence 4
Strength 1.5
Speed 4
Hand seals 4
Stamina 2
Total 21

Kisame and Haku are alittle outmatched in terms of stats so i restricted the use of edo tensei some what. you know the jutsus they posses and their experience. The setting is where Sasuke and Deidara fought. seems like a pretty even fight imo. But i still think orochimaru takes this one. I'd like to know what you think. Does Kisame and Haku have a chance at killing orochimaru?

 

[CommanderSherpard]

orochimaru won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Dr Strangelove]

Orochimaru with extreme difficulty.

 

[Exaar]

Kisame had a Good chance to Solo Oro without edo tensei.

 

[Kwalker394]

Kisame and Haku won >_>

 

[Blaze Release]

Including databook stats is irrelevant. Didnt shikamaru beat hidan?

Anyway kisame has what it takes to solo oro, along with haku they win.

 

[Noobastank]

Kisame had a Good chance to Solo Oro without edo tensei.

So kisame can kill orochimaru [without edo] solo in your opinion? hmmmm interesting. i can kinda see it but idk

 

[Noobastank]

Including databook stats is irrelevant. Didnt shikamaru beat hidan?

Anyway kisame has what it takes to solo oro, along with haku they win.

I included the data book so others can get a feel for the level of strength. I think Orochimaru is Kage level and i say Kisame is jonin level so i added haku, a chuunin level ninja imo to balance it out.

 

[KyoshiroSenju]

Lord orochimaru high diff.

 

[Lt Fresh]

I always thought that Kisame ca beat Oro. So adding Haku just seems to make it easier for team 2

 

[Blaze Release]

I included the data book so others can get a feel for the level of strength. I think Orochimaru is Kage level and i say Kisame is jonin level so i added haku, a chuunin level ninja imo to balance it out.

Dafuq?.
Haku is around chunnin/low jonin true, but i disagre with kisame. Dame he is this underrated?. Kisame is mid kage level along with oro

 

[Noobastank]

Dafuq?.
Haku is around chunnin/low jonin true, but i disagre with kisame. Dame he is this underrated?. Kisame is mid kage level along with oro

Noo...he has the kage level strength in terms of chakra but not the techniques. And haku is no where near jonin level sir. he is not elite. he cant take narutos 1 tailed cloak and sasukes 2 tomoe.

I always thought that Kisame ca beat Oro. So adding Haku just seems to make it easier for team 2

Thats why i allowed him to summon a ninja on the same level as haku in case the numbers game caught up with him. besides he can summon giant snakes to make it even. the numbers are not a problem for orochimaru. but i hear you, you say kisame is enough. i disagree but thats our opinions i guess

 

[Yo pappy]

I think Kisame can pull it off, contrary to popular belief Oro can be killed without having to be sealed.

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A fully powered Kisame should be able to put more than enough chakra into his Great Shark Missile to obliterate Oro.

 

[Blaze Release]

Noo...he has the kage level strength in terms of chakra but not the techniques. And haku is no where near jonin level sir. he is not elite. he cant take narutos 1 tailed cloak and sasukes 2 tomoe.


Thats why i allowed him to summon a ninja on the same level as haku in case the numbers game caught up with him. besides he can summon giant snakes to make it even. the numbers are not a problem for orochimaru. but i hear you, you say kisame is enough. i disagree but thats our opinions i guess

Not the techniques?, meh i dont want to get off target here, same with the haku discussion. Anyway kisame alone can solo oro, adding haku makes life easier

 

[Exaar]

Noo...he has the kage level strength in terms of chakra but not the techniques.

If you Mean Jutsu Wise, Kisame is with Ease the Best suiton User we have seen in the Manga so Far.
(I'm not Counting Tobirama because he is All Hype and has Hardly any Feats).

Kisame Being able to Create Huge amounts of water at Will, 1000 Sharks, a Jutsu that Asborbs Other Ninjutsu and gets stronger Depending on the Jutsu it absorbs, a Huge waterdome that Follows Him and his opponent Making it Almost impossible to Escape.
A Sword that can Absorb/Cut Through Jutsu's, Having Tailed Beast level chakra, samehada Being able to Give Kisame Chakra back/Healing Kisame Making his Stamina Possibly Higher than that of even a jinchuuriki.
Super Human Strength, Fusing with Samehada making him Very Fast Underwater.

Kisame is Really Overlooked, He is Quite Hax when you put all his Skills together.

 

[Noobastank]

If you Mean Jutsu Wise, Kisame is with Ease the Best suiton User we have seen in the Manga so Far.
(I'm not Counting Tobirama because he is All Hype and has Hardly any Feats).

Kisame Being able to Create Huge amounts of water at Will, 1000 Sharks, a Jutsu that Asborbs Other Ninjutsu and gets stronger Depending on the Jutsu it absorbs, a Huge waterdome that Follows Him and his opponent Making it Almost impossible to Escape.
A Sword that can Absorb/Cut Through Jutsu's, Having Tailed Beast level chakra, samehada Being able to Give Kisame Chakra back/Healing Kisame Making his Stamina Possibly Higher than that of even a jinchuuriki.
Super Human Strength, Fusing with Samehada making him Very Fast Underwater.

Kisame is Really Overlooked, He is Quite Hax when you put all his Skills together.

no by techniques i mean like he has noother good elements or sealing methods or anything like that. like all he has is suiton. no doubt he is the best water user but the only thing that makes the techniques so deadly is the amount of chakra he puts in the techniques. i say hes not kage level because he is not skilled in other elements like he is with water. in terms of raw power he is kage level but over all i dont see it.

 

[Exaar]

no by techniques i mean like he has no sealing techniques. like all he has is suiton. no doubt he is the best water user but the only thing that makes the techniques so deadly is the amount of chakra he puts in the techniques. i say hes not kage level because he is not skilled in other elements like he is with water. in terms of raw power he is kage level but over all i dont see it.

To be Fair you don't need to have more than one element to be Kage, Raikage has only Shown Lightning and Tsunade hasn't shown any i think (even though it's said she is Lightning to).
With the strength of his suiton Jutsu's he doesn't really need to Rely on other elements, even though it's said he also has doton.

Most Kages excell in their own area's, Raikage Speed/Tai/Nin, onoki/Gaara/Mei in Ninjutsu, Tsunade in Medical Ninjutsu/Strength.

Each Kage has WeakPoints in their Stats.
Only Hiruzen has Shown to be a Good allRound Ninja, having 5 in everyStat (Prime), Only slacking in Speed/Stamina/Strength Due to his old Age.

 

[home]

i reckon kisame and haku

 

[Pavoneo]

Noo...he has the kage level strength in terms of chakra but not the techniques. And haku is no where near jonin level sir. he is not elite. he cant take narutos 1 tailed cloak and sasukes 2 tomoe.




Thats why i allowed him to summon a ninja on the same level as haku in case the numbers game caught up with him. besides he can summon giant snakes to make it even. the numbers are not a problem for orochimaru. but i hear you, you say kisame is enough. i disagree but thats our opinions i guess

Haku is Jonin level. Zabuza (Jonin level, maybe even higher) said that Haku already surpassed him. Plot no jutsu sort of trolled Haku.

OT: Team 2 takes it, highish difficulty.

 

[Prime Rib]

kisane and haku have this