Sage mode immuned to genjutsu?

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RIGHT HERE It GIVES WAYS TO BREAK GENJUTSU~

The ninja needs to stop the flow of chakra in their body, and then apply an even stronger power to disrupt the flow of the caster's chakra; this is called Genjutsu Dissipation

read the first,The ninja needs to stop the flow of chakra in their body, and then apply an even stronger power to disrupt the flow of the caster's chakra; this is called Genjutsu Dissipation (幻術解, Genjutsu Kai).

now stay with me here, sage mode allows the user to draw in high amounts of nature energy
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question here is, are you able to draw in nature energy even if your in a genjutsu, and if you can will you be able to break out of it? since your basically applying a greater power to disrupt the flow of the caster's chakra?

your thoughts?
 
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Interesting!

But doesnt the chakra disruption only happen when you are collecting nature chakra?
 

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Interesting!

But doesnt the chakra disruption only happen when you are collecting nature chakra?

not sure sure my self, if you start thinking about it yourself it does make sense you are techniqually applying a greater power to yourself, but idk if you can collect natural energy in a genjutsu?
 

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Is that why kabuto has gone to extreme measures just to avoid genjutsu. Before you say frog sm and snake sm are different, the basic principle is the same.
 

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Nope...
Then why would Kabuto need to use so much precautions???????
Because it is not Immune against Genjutsu..

After collecting Natural energy, the body becomes stable. If someone were to absorb the natural energy while moving then they will convert into toad or Snake(maybe in case of Kabuto)..

But if it were Jiraiya, it mightn't have worked. Afterall Ma and Pa were always there by his side..

So your theory is Half right in a sense. But against an opponent like Itachi, that won't matter..:shrug:
 

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not sure sure my self, if you start thinking about it yourself it does make sense you are techniqually applying a greater power to yourself, but idk if you can collect natural energy in a genjutsu?

You could, Naruto tried disrupting his chakra once against itachi (forgot chapter/episode). It would probably be more effective since the chakra is foreign (?)
 

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Sage mode itself isn't immune to genjutsu. As we see Kabuto was caught in one by Itachi.


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Can you gather nature chakra to escape genjutsu? Maybe.
 

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Is that why kabuto has gone to extreme measures just to avoid genjutsu. Before you say frog sm and snake sm are different, the basic principle is the same.

your forgetting kabuto wasnt in sage mode that moment.
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well i dont think he was, if you say the same principles still apply then arent i correct? your basically applying a greater power of chakra to yourself thus breaking the users casting?
 

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Sage mode itself isn't immune to genjutsu. As we see Kabuto was caught in one by Itachi.

Can you gather nature chakra to escape genjutsu? Maybe.

I'd agree to this.
 

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your forgetting kabuto wasnt in sage mode that moment.
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well i dont think he was, if you say the same principles still apply then arent i correct? your basically applying a greater power of chakra to yourself thus breaking the users casting?

So?, He even after getting in sm still isnt too happy with the brothers genjutsu prowess.

Also i dont even think you know how sm works tbh.
Anyway to answer your question, after kabuto has gotten into sm still he isnt confident with genjutsu that alone should say it all
 

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Sage mode itself isn't immune to genjutsu. As we see Kabuto was caught in one by Itachi.


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Can you gather nature chakra to escape genjutsu? Maybe.

but doesnt he break out of it?
 

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So?, He even after getting in sm still isnt too happy with the brothers genjutsu prowess.

Also i dont even think you know how sm works tbh.
Anyway to answer your question, after kabuto has gotten into sm still he isnt confident with genjutsu that alone should say it all

true, :scorps:
 

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So?, He even after getting in sm still isnt too happy with the brothers genjutsu prowess.

Even in SM, Kabuto clearly stated that he isnt immune to Genjutsu becuase of SM itself, but only becuase his vision is blocked by snake coronea. I think that proves enough.
but doesnt he break out of it?

Actually, that was clone, not Genjutsu. Itachi can make clones so fast that his opponents are not aware of that, remember?
 

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but doesnt he break out of it?

Was it because of sage mode or skill? You notice he did get his horns sliced off? But my point proven he is not immune to genjutsu.


Btw he was in sage mode considering this page was before it.

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Even in SM, Kabuto clearly stated that he isnt immune to Genjutsu becuase of SM itself, but only becuase his vision is blocked by snake coronea. I think that proves enough.


Actually, that was clone, not Genjutsu.

oh ok, but one question? can you draw in nature energy while in a genjutsu?
 

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Even in SM, Kabuto clearly stated that he isnt immune to Genjutsu becuase of SM itself, but only becuase his vision is blocked by snake coronea. I think that proves enough.


Actually, that was clone, not Genjutsu.

Was it because of sage mode or skill? You notice he did get his horns sliced off? But my point proven he is not immune to genjutsu.


Btw he was in sage mode considering this page was before it.

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oh alright buddy nice explanation +reps for everyone!! :cool:
 

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it makes sense.however for it to break powerful genjutsu's like tsukuyomi,he would have to take in natural energy as soon as the genjutsu takes effect or disperse a shadow clone that was gathering natural energy immediately after it is activated.However it would not break izanagi because that genjutsu is cast on the caster and i dont see it breaking the demonic illusion toad confrontation chant because this genjutsu not only paralysis the mind but knocks the body unconscious.a powerful genjutsu indeed
 

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Sage mode itself isn't immune to genjutsu. As we see Kabuto was caught in one by Itachi.


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Can you gather nature chakra to escape genjutsu? Maybe.


Be careful with this comment. We dont know if Itachi used a genjutsu on Kabuto when he was swinging in the air and seen the crows. This has been argued before, b/c Itachi can use the crows to start a genjutsu but ultimately the crows are a SUMMON and not a genjutsu. He can summon the crows and NOT use them in a genjutsu if he wishes. So maybe Itachi never had him in a genjutsu, but used the crow summons to temporarily blind Kabuto. He attempted to cut him with Sasuke's sword in the confusion.

Can you gather nature chakra to escape genjutsu? Yes. Naruto was gathering nature chakra with his natural body when he was active fighting the Kuubi. He was MOVING while THINKING in his mind and fighting, but his TRUE BODY was still... so he was able to instantly go Sage Mode when the Kuubi released its control on him through the "hate" he absorbed from Kuubi.
Im sure if Naruto was caught in a genjutsu now... the moment he realizes it he could break out cause he then knows his "true body" isnt moving at all.


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