Gai, Kakashi, Lee & Jaraiya Vs Madara [EDO]

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Madara seems to have the five kage holding on for dear life. I wanted to match him up with shinobi that i believe are kage level in their own rights.[not counting lee]. Kakashi and Jaraiya seem to have some sealing jutsu knowledge. I fixed it this way so atleast half of the team atleast was skilled in sealing knowledge. Gai and Lee are there for taijutsu purposes due to the rinnengan's ability to seal ninjutsu. So far i see a pretty even match based off of what it looks like on paper. What do you think would happen based off of what you have seen these ninja due in battle?

Kakashi with his intelligence and vast knowledge of nin and genjutsu

Jaraiya with his sage mode, and summoning abilities

Lee and Gai for there Taijutsu and good team chemistry.

Madara..well you know..with his beastiness lol his vast ammount of chakra, doujutsu, mokuton, and also his taijutsu abilities. we can assume he knows the foribben techniques such as Izanagi but im gonna restrict its usage. Sasunoo is in fact castable. im not restricting that.

i tried to make this as even as possible skill wise

Chakra lol noo...chakra is unlimited for madara since he is in his Edo form... so sasunoo is maintainable for extended periods of time. all his moves are infact spamable.

But the team i picked is excellent in evading and dope* in defence! I have faith in them all the way =0 honestly i dont know who would win but....

Gai can open the gates up to 7 of them...... no suicide

Kakashi..no kamui. come on. he wont use it because if it didnt work on tobi, it wont work on madara either. sharingan is only used for evasion and perception. His kamui may only be used to defend as he did to sasuke's arrows.

While madara is using sasunoo he cannot use rinnengan to absorb ninjutsu. vice versa, when he absorbs ninjutsu he cannot use sasunoo. he is very much able to be struck by ninjutsu or taijutsu at any moment if the tactics are precise.
soo with all of this said



Plain and simple...

Who Wins?





:scorps:*Dope: Very good
 

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Kakashi..no kamui. come on. he wont use it because if it didnt work on tobi, it wont work on madara either.
Not quite. The only reason why Kamui doesn't work against Tobi is because he can teleport his main body to another dimension. Madara can't do that. So kamui could work.
 

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Madara would take them down easy i mean look what he is doing to the fave kage
 

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Lol Madara - Easy , Taijutsu is useless against Edos, Lee and Guy will Die first, followed by Kakashi, and last is Jiraiya.... Do not put Madara on par with these guys.

And Chakra is not Unlimited.... It "Seemed to be Unlimited" but it's not... Madara got this Plain and simple.
 

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I believe Gai, Kakashi and Jiraya are stronger than some of these kages. But it's right that Madara Edo is still stronger than them. Only chance is kamui i think. Madara has too much advantages and the Mokuton will pose great problems to deal with.
 

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Even if Lee is like getting owned by amaterasu he won't give up lol! he will honestly open the 8th gate just so he can win XD

Lee trys so hard that opening the 8th gate might not even kill him. Nothing can keep him down. :D
 

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If he is solo'ing and opens the 8th gate, then of course he'll die. After he reburies Madara.

No lee cant seal madara alone so if he opens the 8 gates he is ****ed.

and as far as him not using kamui offensively, the only offence we have seen effectively was against deidara i do believe. we cannot say if kakashi is capable to absorb a whole body. im sure if he only gets a limb he will be wasting chakra cause madara would only regenerate. Kakashi is smart enough not to do that. Im sure kakashi would only use it if his life was in danger.
 

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Lol Madara - Easy , Taijutsu is useless against Edos, Lee and Guy will Die first, followed by Kakashi, and last is Jiraiya.... Do not put Madara on par with these guys.

And Chakra is not Unlimited.... It "Seemed to be Unlimited" but it's not... Madara got this Plain and simple.

I Think madara would win of coarse but i dont think it will be easy. i think If lee opens 7 gates. jaraiya in sage mode. Gai 7 gates. kakashi's.....what ever he does when he gets serious... Madara would break a sweat but still win
 

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Though I disagree on Kamui not working on Madara, it didn't work on Tobi because Tobi has s/t manipulation. I also disagree that edo-tensei's chakras are unlimited when I look at Muu. We cannot assume Madara knows such techniques. Let's not overrate. Kakashi's power-level without MS drops quite a bit. Kakashi's scale of attack isn't particularly impressive, even Raikiri in comparison to other jutsus we've seen seems boorish. It's said that Kakashi has copied over 1000 jutsus but he'd have to use only 3 elements, and we have a pretty good idea that raikiri is his strongest tech. I'm not sure how useful he'd be really. He has no way to get passed Susanoo unless he uses his hiding like a mole technique, but granting the fact that once he's close to Madara sharingan becomes too dangerous being equipped with Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu as those are the prerequisites to Susanoo. Though he may be able to Lightning Transmission, but I doubt Madara would let Kakashi just run towards him with a technique that sounds like 2000 birds chirping. We can't overrate Kakashi's speed because Kakashi was racing toward Hidan with a raikiri and was stopped and countered dead in his tracks by Kakuzu. We really don't know if Gai and Lee have the strength to get passed Susanoo that really is their bind and then there is the question of whether they can withstand Madara's technique should they get caught by one. It would seem Jiraiya is the only appropriate enemy for Madara in this battle. His scale of attacks are impressive, his strength is not great enough to break Susanoo, but Goemon and Toad Oil Flame Bullet at full power would most likely melt Susanoo. He also has Earth Techniques so he can Sink Susanoo and can probably muster an attack from below. He has scrolls to seal Amaterasu and he studied the sample of Amaterasu he collected so he may have worked out a counter, he has Ma and Pa to wake him from Genjutsu, but a Genjutsu battle would prove pointless. All of the sannin are proficient in Fuinjutsu. With better help Jiraiya would win, but Gai, mini Gai and Kakashi without MS isn't of too much use imo. Give him the other two Sannin and I say its a win mid difficulty, but as it set up Madara wins High difficulty.
EDIT: Though I suppose if Jiraiya melts Susanoo, and 7th Gate Guy and 5th Gate Drunken Lee blitz him directly after Susanoo being melted and Kakashi uses some of his jutsus to serve as a distraction they would be able to get Madara in the same situation the 5 kages got Madara in when he used his wood clone. But then someone would die like because no one heals like Tsunade, unless Kakashi was able to recognize it as a wood clone. But even then their element of suprise is gone. And if he should make the mass clones their screwed again...
 
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Sick! Difficult to decide but still think edo madara would take it.. unlimited chakra and the mokuton could finish them maybe if he has to susano'o
 

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madara takes this mid-high diff
 
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