your thoughts on genjutsu? not needed?cheap way to win?

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i honestly feel kishi should have never introduced genjutsu in the series i feel its a very cheap hax way to win fights example itachi he can basically 1 shot anybody.

i mean i wouldn't mind it if it wasnt so hax and more breakable.

your thoughts on genjutsu?

i mean its very unfair to the non uciha plp and non jinchuriki's:confused:
 

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I feel that genjutsu is good but it wasn't brought upon the right way. Genjutsu like the one Kakashi used was pretty cool. I'd be fine with Tsukuyomi too considering it requires the MS and takes eye-sight w/o the EMS. Genjutsu shouldn't all be one shot KOs though
 
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I think the genjutsu is pretty cool. I don't think Kishi did it very well though. Making it more breakable and harder to use would really improve things. But saying that there are not very many people who use genjutsu.
 

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hard to master but very good tactical move if you know how to use it like sasuke vs danzo
tho i see your point i reject your conclusion.
 

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Its fine, its not like every uchiha can use it like itachi. In a way jinchuriki and wood style users and other tech is on the same hax level, it all depends on the character and how powerful and talented he is at using what he has got.
 

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Its fine, its not like every uchiha can use it like itachi. In a way jinchuriki and wood style users and other tech is on the same hax level, it all depends on the character and how powerful and talented he is at using what he has got.

but kishi made genjutsu way to hax.
 

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People who understand the manga would tell you that out of the three ninja art's genjutsu is the superior. Backed by the fact that not many ninja's specialise in it, it can be lethal when used properly and im not talking about ms genjutsu or any of the op genjutsu, but simply genjutsu.

I keep on hearing people saying so and so character cannot be trapped in a genjutsu and every time i see such comment i facepalm, because they relate this to what happened with naruto and itachi., The reason why naruto was trapped is because he cannot break it, but also the reason why he lived is because itachi didnt attack him whilst naruto was in the illusion. He couldve 1 shotted him, no different to what he did to oro, but also the scenario with deidora.

Genjutsu in general is not about trapping your opponent and majority of high level ninja's know how to dispel genjutsu, that is if they know are in one. Genjutsu is to create an opening, a vulnerability for the briefest of moments and to use this illusion to your advantage. If you really want to know the power of genjutsu, look at how sasuke used it against danzo. That imo was one of the best ways to use genjutsu in the series and as tobi said it was a weak genjutsu, but you see thats all thats needed to fool an opponent, create an opening.
 

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I think the genjutsu is pretty cool. I don't think Kishi did it very well though. Making it more breakable and harder to use would really improve things. But saying that there are not very many people who use genjutsu.

Its fine, its not like every uchiha can use it like itachi. In a way jinchuriki and wood style users and other tech is on the same hax level, it all depends on the character and how powerful and talented he is at using what he has got.

i agree.
plus its not kishi who is overrating genjutsu, its the ppl/fans
 

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People who understand the manga would tell you that out of the three ninja art's genjutsu is the superior. Backed by the fact that not many ninja's specialise in it, it can be lethal when used properly and im not talking about ms genjutsu or any of the op genjutsu, but simply genjutsu.

I keep on hearing people saying so and so character cannot be trapped in a genjutsu and every time i see such comment i facepalm, because they relate this to what happened with naruto and itachi., The reason why naruto was trapped is because he cannot break it, but also the reason why he lived is because itachi didnt attack him whilst naruto was in the illusion. He couldve 1 shotted him, no different to what he did to oro, but also the scenario with deidora.

Genjutsu in general is not about trapping your opponent and majority of high level ninja's know how to dispel genjutsu, that is if they know are in one. Genjutsu is to create an opening, a vulnerability for the briefest of moments and to use this illusion to your advantage. If you really want to know the power of genjutsu, look at how sasuke used it against danzo. That imo was one of the best ways to use genjutsu in the series and as tobi said it was a weak genjutsu, but you see thats all thats needed to fool an opponent, create an opening.

so... you agree or disagree or your not sure :shrug:
 

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i agree.
plus its not kishi who is overrating genjutsu, its the ppl/fans

how so?

itachi's genjutsu is too hax he can basically almost 1 shot anyone.
kotoakumyo can put you in a ever lasting genjutsu without you even knowing? come on now.
 

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so... you agree or disagree or your not sure :shrug:

I disagree. Genjutsu is like another other ninja art. There are op ones and there are basic ones. A perfect jinchrucki of the 9 tails is cheap. A rennigan user is cheap xd
 

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I disagree. Genjutsu is like another other ninja art. There are op ones and there are basic ones. A perfect jinchrucki of the 9 tails is cheap. A rennigan user is cheap xd

how is trapping your opponent in a illusion and and making them see different things to your advantage ninja art?xd
 

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how is trapping your opponent in a illusion and and making them see different things to your advantage ninja art?xd

Ability to control your opponents 5 senses does seem op i gotta admit, but like everything else it depends on the user
 

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Agreed. It feels like it's way to easy to cast an "unbreakable" genjutsu. The one Sasuke pulled on Danzo was good though. But jutsu like Tsykuyomi are a bit too much.
 

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Ability to control your opponents 5 senses does seem op i gotta admit, but like everything else it depends on the user

yes it depends on the user, but that doesn't change the fact its still op:scorps: come at me bro.
 

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Genjutsu is cool sasuke traps someone in a illusion, then one shot them with Amaterasu
 

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Ya I feel it's cheap but the story I think trys to reflect life and life is cheap underhanded unfair etc I feel it's like when people say oh i don't like naruto it's too dragonballz ok..well it used to b dragonball that wasn't op goku as a kid but he grew up everything does small to big like people used to live in caves but now we drop nukes :l
 

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I'm with Blaze Release on this one. It's all about the user and how and when they use it. Kakashi used one on Sakura in the beginning to get her to come out of cover so he could knock her out.

Tsukiyomi is really the only unbreakable one. The rest have been shown to be dispelled. Tsukiyomi is the exception, and the best genjutsu so far.

Basically, like BR said, the technique is about trapping your opponent and creating openings.
 

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I think fans can overrate it too. Like using that logic, Tayuya could have genjutsu'd Kimimaro and be done with it. I find it easier to believe that skilled ninja would find a way past genjutsu and what-not
 
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