Madara and his Rinnegan

[Dribbles]

My question in this thread, is how can Madara use EMS techniques while using rinnegan? I know rinnegan is the next level of the sharingan. But no rinnegan user in the manga has shown to be able to use EMS techniques while using the rinnegan,
Maybe only if you have hashi and uchiha dna can you utilize both doujutsu techniques? :shrug: Maybe we will see tobi using sharingan and rinnegan techniques at the same time, connected vision + sharingan movement tracking is pretty badass tbh.

 

[TobisPawn]

Nagato didn't originally have the Sharingan, so he couldn't use MS techs.

 

[Dribbles]

The rinnegan can only be obtained if you had the sharingan, tobi couldve unlocked the rinnegan in some way and given it to nagato, which brings to accusations that implanted rinnegans cant use EMS techniques.

 

[TobisPawn]

The rinnegan can only be obtained if you had the sharingan, tobi couldve unlocked the rinnegan in some way and given it to nagato, which brings to accusations that implanted rinnegans cant use EMS techniques.

Probably what you just said.

 

[alphanso]

madera is the baddest member me tell u

 

[Viewtiful]

Just because Madara progressed to the Rinnegan doesn't mean his EMS was deactivated.

 

[ignitel0l]

implanted Rinnegan eyes can't use EMS. * Theory *

 

[Viewtiful]

implanted Rinnegan eyes can't use EMS. * Theory *

Who's to say Nagato's eyes are implanted? Tobi is a liar and could simply mean he orchestrated the situation that caused him to awaken his Rinnegan. And the fact that we saw him awaken the Rinnegan is rather telling.

 

[Futton]

The rinnegan can only be obtained if you had the sharingan, tobi couldve unlocked the rinnegan in some way and given it to nagato, which brings to accusations that implanted rinnegans cant use EMS techniques.

That's only the assumption now, because we now know how madara got his and him saying he gave it to Nagato. If he did give it to Nagato maybe he game it to him the same way Itachi gave Sasuke his Mangekyo

 

[BONTUL]

EMS + Senju DNA = Rinnegan.

 

[NLee]

EMS + Senju DNA = Rinnegan.

Nagato had the EMS and Senju DNA? I never knew that...:sy:

 

[iSpeak]

MS lets you use MS + Sharingan techs without needing to switch, EMS lets you use EMS + MS + Sharingan techs and Rinnegan lets you use all four. If you had your eyes transplanted like Nagato then you can only go foward, not backwards. Since Rinnegan is the final stage it stays as Rinnegan if transplanted.

 

[Dribbles]

MS lets you use MS + Sharingan techs without needing to switch, EMS lets you use EMS + MS + Sharingan techs and Rinnegan lets you use all four. If you had your eyes transplanted like Nagato then you can only go foward, not backwards. Since Rinnegan is the final stage it stays as Rinnegan if transplanted.

Major flaw there, Sharingan and MS/EMS are all linked, they can all be used at the same time. No rinnegan user other then Madara have shown to be able to use atleast one MS technique ( Susano'o ) Without switching between eyes [ Can you actually go back to sharingan after unlocking the rinnegan? ]

 

[Dribbles]

Who's to say Nagato's eyes are implanted? Tobi is a liar and could simply mean he orchestrated the situation that caused him to awaken his Rinnegan. And the fact that we saw him awaken the Rinnegan is rather telling.

I actually dont see how its possible for Nagato to simply 'Awaken' the rinnegan, without uchiha OR senju dna, [ Maybe only senju, since uzumaki's are distant relatives ] the only possible way for nagato to acquire a rinnegan is to get them implanted.

 

[iSpeak]

Major flaw there, Sharingan and MS/EMS are all linked, they can all be used at the same time. No rinnegan user other then Madara have shown to be able to use atleast one MS technique ( Susano'o ) Without switching between eyes [ Can you actually go back to sharingan after unlocking the rinnegan? ]

That is because Madara is the only person (apart from the S06P) who has unlocked their Rinnegan themselves. If you unlock it yourself, then you are able to use all of your pervious Sharingan techs without needing to switch. If you had the dojutsu transplanted, then you are only able to use that level and above (if you are able to unlock the further stages).

 

[Dribbles]

That is because Madara is the only person (apart from the S06P) who has unlocked their Rinnegan themselves. If you unlock it yourself, then you are able to use all of your pervious Sharingan techs without needing to switch. If you had the dojutsu transplanted, then you are only able to use that level and above (if you are able to unlock the further stages).

But thats still purely assumption, i guess until tobi spills the beans on nagatos rinnegan theres really no way of telling.:shrug:

 

[Ryuu..]

MS lets you use MS + Sharingan techs without needing to switch, EMS lets you use EMS + MS + Sharingan techs and Rinnegan lets you use all four. If you had your eyes transplanted like Nagato then you can only go foward, not backwards. Since Rinnegan is the final stage it stays as Rinnegan if transplanted.

Bingo.

 

[iSpeak]

But thats still purely assumption, i guess until tobi spills the beans on nagatos rinnegan theres really no way of telling.:shrug:

Well it is still a presumption, but it makes the most sense. I am 95% sure the real Madara gave Nagato his Rinnegan. There is nothing to even suggest Nagato unlocked or was born with his. He has them always activated, the sign of someone who has transplanted a dojutsu (same with Kakashi, Ao, Danzo etc). Madara knew a young Nagato. Madara hinted at supposing to be resurrected by Rinne Tensei, which Tobi (whilst still posing as Madara) said was for him. Then suddenly, we see Madara also has the Rinnegan (the only person apart from SO6P and Nagato). Nobody is randomly born with the final stage of a dojutsu, especially if you are not part of that clan.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Nagato didn't originally have the Sharingan, so he couldn't use MS techs.

THIS, he was given rinnegan directly so he wouldn't be able to use and sharingan techs